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coffeebean 06-05-2015 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by deestatham (Post 1067568)
I'm not real familiar with the roads in TV so I can't remember exactly where it happened. Do the golf carts have the right of way or the cars? I was afraid someone would rear end me if I kept stopping for golf carts. I hope I get acclimated to the golf carts once I'm living there. Just don't want anyone to get hurt.

Cars have right of way. Car drivers should not wave on golf cart drivers at any intersection. That is my understanding and I'm sticking to it.

billethkid 06-05-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1070513)
Cars have right of way. Car drivers should not wave on golf cart drivers at any intersection. That is my understanding and I'm sticking to it.

You are correct.
And I hate to say how many near rear endings I have witnessed due to someone stopping exiting a traffic circle to be nice nice and wave golf carts through.

When in my golf cart and they wave me through I do not go. And many act frustrated that I do not.

Too many do not know the rules of the road here in TV and almost as many more who know and do it anyway.

Defensive driving...always.

CFrance 06-05-2015 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1070513)
Cars have right of way. Car drivers should not wave on golf cart drivers at any intersection. That is my understanding and I'm sticking to it.

Yes, the theory is not to stop for golf carts because they should not come to believe that they have any right of way.

That being said, I cheat. If there's no one behind me in my car and many carts trying to get across, I wave them on. I can't help it. I was taught to drive in such a fashion as to keep the flow of traffic moving. Sorry.

coffeebean 06-05-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1067727)
When it is a stop sign, I stop. When it is a yield sign, I yield. Guess I am a goodie two shoes. I thought I was a wild and crazy girl. This has been eye opening. I need to go to see my shrink.

I don't think I'm a goodie two shoes but I do come to a complete stop at stop signs......only one exception to that is on my corner where I live in NJ. I roll through the sign when I can see there is no one coming. As for all other stop signs, I always think there is a police officer lurking to give me a ticket. If it weren't for that fear, I would definitely roll through stop signs if I can easily see the coast is clear in all directions.

No, I'm not a goodie two shoes....I do speed on the interstate and roads in The Villages. I go 5 miles over the speed limit. My bad!

LittleDog 06-05-2015 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1070520)
Yes, the theory is not to stop for golf carts because they should not come to believe that they have any right of way.

That being said, I cheat. If there's no one behind me in my car and many carts trying to get across, I wave them on. I can't help it. I was taught to drive in such a fashion as to keep the flow of traffic moving. Sorry.

I do to as long as it doesn't impede any traffic behind me. I realize that it is against the law but I think its courteous to do this. I know when I'm in a cart trying to cross by a gate I appreciate someone waving me through. I haven't seen any near accidents because of this.

John

CFrance 06-05-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleDog (Post 1070551)
I do to as long as it doesn't impede any traffic behind me. I realize that it is against the law but I think its courteous to do this. I know when I'm in a cart trying to cross by a gate I appreciate someone waving me through. I haven't seen any near accidents because of this.

John

Me neither, littledog. And I'm not sure it's against the law, either. I think it is against the TV guidelines. I could be wrong.

Challenger 06-05-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1070519)
You are correct.
And I hate to say how many near rear endings I have witnessed due to someone stopping exiting a traffic circle to be nice nice and wave golf carts through.

When in my golf cart and they wave me through I do not go. And many act frustrated that I do not.

Too many do not know the rules of the road here in TV and almost as many more who know and do it anyway.

Defensive driving...always.

I also do not go on the invitation. So often the car driver doesn"t see cars coming through the far gate and is inviting me to make a dangerous move.

"Rules of life" when you have the right away--take it. Some few common sense exceptions such as an alternating pattern in the case of large back ups

Mikeod 06-05-2015 04:35 PM

It's both funny and sad at the same time that I see cars stopping to let carts cross, but not pedestrians. If it's a crosswalk, and that includes the paver path at some gates, state law requires cars to yield to pedestrians crossing. They regularly run stings on this in Orlando at highway exits.

For me, the only time to let carts cross is when the exit lane through the gate is backed up from the RAB.

Please don't stop for carts if you can proceed normally. it just causes confusion for both car and cart drivers. I will patiently wait until it's clear to cross in my cart.

CFrance 06-05-2015 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1070573)
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I also do not go on the invitation. So often the car driver doesn"t see cars coming through the far gate and is inviting me to make a dangerous move.

"Rules of life" when you have the right away--take it. Some few common sense exceptions such as an alternating pattern in the case of large back ups

Well, I think littledog and I are doing the common sense exceptions. The carts that I let go at the gate have a space to stop before crossing in front of ongoing traffic. Every cart does that at the gates, whether someone let them go or not. If that space is filled, I don't stop for carts. Common sense prevails.

Sherrie 06-05-2015 04:44 PM

A lot of speeding- ***20 tickets. Some of people think it's okay to pass a car or cart on the right if they are turning left. WRONG. If you drive your car in the cart lane to pass a car turning left. TICKET and you are endangering the golf cart driver you just cut off.

Sherrie 06-05-2015 06:07 PM

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I hope they stay out and make more speeders aware of what they are doing. Golf carts are beside them and the golf card Never wins! (stay in your land Mr. Car please)

Sherrie 06-05-2015 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1066317)
Yesterday 20 speeding tickets were issued on Morse north of 466. 3 were issued to golf carts. :coolsmiley:

I hope the write more. Maybe the traffic will take another route and ease it up here.

Sherrie 06-05-2015 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherrie (Post 1070637)
I hope the write more. Maybe the traffic will take another route and ease it up here.


njbchbum 06-05-2015 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherrie (Post 1070631)
I hope they stay out and make more speeders aware of what they are doing. Golf carts are beside them and the golf card Never wins! (stay in your land Mr. Car please)

Please Mr/Ms Golf Cart - Tough it out behind that slow poke in front of you rather than enter my traffic lane passing it!

Sophie11 06-07-2015 10:14 PM

We all know it is frightful driving on Morse! Over 1000 signatures have voiced how dangerous it is.
This is the best retirement village in the world and it makes me a little uneasy when there is an obvious traffic problem and no one wants to fix it. They just keep building and bring in more traffic. I am new here and I was hoping it was an investment but if they look the other way on this what will be next? FIX the problem and if you must put it in the taxes so be it. A problem is a problem - face it.

downeaster 06-08-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1070520)
Yes, the theory is not to stop for golf carts because they should not come to believe that they have any right of way.

That being said, I cheat. If there's no one behind me in my car and many carts trying to get across, I wave them on. I can't help it. I was taught to drive in such a fashion as to keep the flow of traffic moving. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by LittleDog (Post 1070551)
I do to as long as it doesn't impede any traffic behind me. I realize that it is against the law but I think its courteous to do this. I know when I'm in a cart trying to cross by a gate I appreciate someone waving me through. I haven't seen any near accidents because of this.

John


As far as I am concerned your actions are acceptable. Making an obvious attempt at keeping traffic moving without endangering others makes sense. You nay find an occasional LEO agreeing.

As a cart driver I try not to make direct eye contact with the other driver. After a few seconds gesticulating they usually move on. By the way, I said direct eye contact. I have them in the corner of my eye.

DougB 06-08-2015 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1070520)
Yes, the theory is not to stop for golf carts because they should not come to believe that they have any right of way.

That being said, I cheat. If there's no one behind me in my car and many carts trying to get across, I wave them on. I can't help it. I was taught to drive in such a fashion as to keep the flow of traffic moving. Sorry.

If there is no one behind you, what's the purpose for waving them on? Can't they just go after you?

Polar Bear 06-08-2015 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 1071685)
If there is no one behind you, what's the purpose for waving them on? Can't they just go after you?

:agree:

I know most folks who wave carts through have the best of intentions. But I do believe that simply following the rules of right-of-way is the best way to facilitate safety and efficiency. The above is a perfect example.

CFrance 06-08-2015 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 1071685)
If there is no one behind you, what's the purpose for waving them on? Can't they just go after you?

When there's five or six carts waiting behind them, it's no big deal to wave them on. Perhaps I see cars coming up behind me that will cause a traffic jam, and there is enough time to let the carts go before the cars reach the gate. Mostly this is at the St. Charles gate, a particularly busy one with carts coming off of a golf course nearby. It's a situational thing.

So sue me. I'm still going to do it.:wave:

JoMar 06-08-2015 09:20 PM

I wave them on and appreciate when they wave me on.......and will continue to do so. The car blocks that lane of traffic and the cart driver can concentrate on the other lanes. I have no knowledge of any accidents occurring and nobody on here has listed any that have happened as a result of being waved on or waving a cart on.

outlaw 06-09-2015 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1071715)
When there's five or six carts waiting behind them, it's no big deal to wave them on. Perhaps I see cars coming up behind me that will cause a traffic jam, and there is enough time to let the carts go before the cars reach the gate. Mostly this is at the St. Charles gate, a particularly busy one with carts coming off of a golf course nearby. It's a situational thing.

So sue me. I'm still going to do it.:wave:

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1071807)
I wave them on and appreciate when they wave me on.......and will continue to do so. The car blocks that lane of traffic and the cart driver can concentrate on the other lanes. I have no knowledge of any accidents occurring and nobody on here has listed any that have happened as a result of being waved on or waving a cart on.

And we wonder why golf cart drivers don't know that autos have the right of way. This is what the "killing with kindness" post was all about, wasn't it?

CFrance 06-09-2015 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1071863)
And we wonder why golf cart drivers don't know that autos have the right of way. This is what the "killing with kindness" post was all about, wasn't it?

No, it was about how not using common sense can cause an accident. The same way Boogie and others roll through stop signs when they can see darn well there is nobody coming, that's the same reasoning I and others drive to facilitate others as much as is safe.

I suppose literally OP is correct. IMO it can be done otherwise. BTW, is it a traffic law, or just the TV rules? Serious question.

spring_chicken 06-09-2015 08:56 AM

Just a quick public service announcement for those who get irritated by people passing them in their golf cart. It doesn't always mean that they want to go that much faster. I pass gas carts daily because I don't want to hear the engine noise and smell the stink from their cart.

Chatbrat 06-09-2015 09:28 AM

The older gas carts, really stink--it appears a wayward tree jumped in front of a golf cart, yesterday--the woman who was driving was transported to the hospital--if there were small children in the cart--there could have been a fatality

outlaw 06-09-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1071869)
No, it was about how not using common sense can cause an accident. The same way Boogie and others roll through stop signs when they can see darn well there is nobody coming, that's the same reasoning I and others drive to facilitate others as much as is safe.

I suppose literally OP is correct. IMO it can be done otherwise. BTW, is it a traffic law, or just the TV rules? Serious question.

I think it is against the law to stop in the middle of a street just because you decide to momentarily change right of way rules. Unless, of course, you are avoiding an accident.


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