[looneycat]

Originally Posted by Nucky

Who said anything about giving money to the PBA? These were neighbors and friends of my sons who were officers. I respect them enormously even before they offered the cards to me and Mrs. Nucky. I, knock on wood have not gotten a speeding ticket since around 1976 when I was escorted to my home by an officer who was friends with my father. I was put on cross examination in front of my Dad. 99MPH in a 50MPH zone. The ticket was reduced greatly, I don't remember that part exactly. The lesson from the beating from my father and 90 days without the car has stuck with me for my entire life. On a long trip if I speed I know it's time to get off the road because I'm tired.

A fairly damning report of the integrity of officers...don't call them cops please....please Google...Discretion is Valor in Traffic Stops. These men I spoke with approach me to talk and open up about their experience with their job when we were at various picnics. My kids tell them I'm easy to talk to and listen well. They obviously need to vent about what goes on because of the stress. My respect level is high for all who protect our country and those who protect our community, especially the officer who wrote the ticket in front of my dad.

so falsifying statements by police is ok? oh come on officer i only shot him once, can't you let me off

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by looneycat

he exceeded the limit by 30%, that's significant

I'm not sure about that. What's more "significant", 26 in a 20 zone or 91 in a 70 zone, both are "30%" over the limit, but not equally safe, IMHO. The significance is that by exceeding the speed limit the OP took a gamble, and lost. You can't be a crybaby and whine just because you got caught.

[TwinTurboViper]

Isn't it funny how so many can condemn "us" for getting a ticket when we could almost walk that fast. So many can say that you shouldn't speed...granted your right .... but speeding is not doing 26 mph or some other "ridiculous" speed such as this. And it happens all the time instead of being in a dangerous condition they find "anything" to generate fee's. It also amazes me how so many of the "How Great Thou Art" NORTHERN people think everyone "else" should be crucified.....because "they" NEVER do anything wrong.
So I guess "this person" was also IN THE WRONG and the laws are "always" right? Some people need to understand "common sense"

Double entendre?

The story below from someone who received a citation while driving their golf cart in The Villages was passed along to me this week, and I thought it was worth sharing with you here.

Its a great reminder that when you’re in a golf cart, traffic laws still apply and they might be different that the laws you follow when in your car.

Another resource I discovered while putting this article together is GolfCartSafety.com which is run by a local law firm representing people in cases involving carts, but regardless of how you feel about lawyers its a pretty good resource so check it out.

Anyway, here’s the email I received: (Names have been removed to protect the innocent)

Recently my wife and I were going to Spanish Springs to meet another couple for dinner and a movie. Somewhere along Morse Blvd., out of the blue, I see a Deputy Sheriff on a motorcycle with his lights flashing behind me in the (Golf Cart) ‘Diamond Lane’.

I pulled to a stop and the Deputy informed me that I was exceeding 20mph in my “golf cart”. He gave me a slip of paper which stated that the Florida Statute 320.01 defines a golf cart as a vehicle which is NOT CAPABLE of exceeding 20 mph.

Because of this, when I exceeded 20 mph I was no longer in a golf cart but I was driving a motorized vehicle on public roads without proper registration or license. He then served me with a citation to that effect and told me it was a criminal offense.

He also said that if I produced a certified letter from a golf cart shop that the golf cart was adjusted to not exceed 20 mph the judge may let me off with just court costs. The citation had a date that I was to appear in the county court in Bushnell, FL. It also stated “Criminal Violation court appearance required”.

I thought to myself – here I am enjoying one of the most talked about benefits of “Florida’s Most Friendly City” on my way to a movie and I end up as a criminal.

I was very anxious so when I got home I searched the internet trying to find out how hot the water was that I was in. I went to TalkOfTheVillages and found some discussion related to my situation.

I went to the Sumter County Clerk website and found that a CLASS 2 Misdemeanor was a Criminal offense punishable with a fine of up to $500 and 6 months in the county jail.

I thought WHAT! – Morse Blvd. has a speed limit of 30mph – I was not going any speed close to the limit and I could end up fined and in jail because I was in a golf cart and not in a car. And in addition to that I will now have a CRIMINAL RECORD.
Going to Court

I appeared in court in Bushnell at 9:00 a.m. on the proper date. Misdemeanor offenses are prosecuted in Courtroom B of the court house. The Judge took time to explain in great detail how the pleading process worked and the procedure that followed each type of plea. He also said that he puts everyone on probation, usually for six months, to allow them time to pay the costs incurred. One important note stated by the judge is that he evaluates each case on its own merits, so a person should not expect the same sentencing as any other person who committed the same violation. His questions to each person who I witnessed appearing before him, including myself, were to clarify the violation and circumstances related to it.

When I was called to come before him, he read the charge and ask me for my plea. My plea was “No Contest” because I had no idea I was creating a criminal offense by driving the golf cart in excess of 20 mph. I now know I was wrong, but I didn’t even think I was speeding since Morse Blvd. has a 30 mph speed limit.

The Judge was very pleasant and professional while carrying out his duties. He didn’t fine me but told me I had court costs to pay and that he was withholding adjudication for which I am very grateful. Also, I was placed on probation until the costs were paid.

I then had some papers to sign in the court room. After this I went to the County Clerks office to setup payment and find out the amounts due ($253-court costs) and then to the cashiers office to pay – cash, credit card, (no personal checks). She sent me down the street to take the probation clerk my receipt. The lady at this office had me fill out more papers of personal info. for their system and pay them $50. This could only be a money order, nothing else – no cash, no check, no credit card only a money order. The lady in the office said I could get a money order at the Shell gas station on the corner. I walk to the gas station and gave the clerk $51.50 for the $50 money order. After I gave the lady in the probation office the $50 money order she said the case was closed and I should get written notification within a week.

THE GOOD
All the people at the court house were nice and pleasant to deal with. That includes the clerks, the deputies, and the Judge.

THE BAD
It cost $304.50 at the court house and approximately $125.00 for the certification of the golf cart. TOTAL $429.50

THE UGLY
At the end of the process you have a CRIMINAL RECORD.

NOTE: Before you can enter the court room you must be wearing long pants (no Shorts), a tucked in shirt that is buttoned up, no hat, no sunglasses, no chewing gum.

My advice – Don’t exceed 20mph by even 2 mph ......even in a 30 mph zone....... OR HAVE A RECORD & PAY FOR THE NEXT POLICE OFFICERS PAY RAISE...... "Only In The Friendly Hometown".... The Villages

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

What bothers me is there are so many other serious crimes going on around here that to focus on minor speeding violations is the real crime.

Spend there time finding the crooks that steal golf carts

In my opinion, speeding is a more serious offense than stealing a golf cart.

If you speed, there is more chance you may hurt someone else. If someone takes your golf cart, no one gets hurt, and you will probably benefit from walking when you play golf.

[Coal Miner]

The driver in this case has every right to complain, instead of his tax dollars being used to protect him, they were used to harass him. Cut me a break, 26 mph is not dangerous. This cop was out gouging the tax payers for more money, when he should have been trying to catch real criminals. Theres no shortage of criminals around TV these days.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by snowbird22154

$140 for 26 mph in a 20 mph zone and not even a "school zone". And I'm sure there are many many of "The Villagers" that are getting "taken" to the cleaners daily but many "Villagers" also have exceeded the 20 mph "trap" almost daily but your turn is coming

And yes I have also heard "horror stories" about the Golf Carts getting $600 tickets!....over and over but there's a lot of difference in being in a Golf Cart & a automobile doing 26 mph !!!

What happened to "warnings"? like the olden days.
It's not like I was doing 90 mph in a school zone @

And they think Bernie Madoff was a crook??? I know some of the "do gooders" love it when "others" do such a terrible crime

Any attorney's available?

exceeding the limit- got caught- no excuse.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by VApeople

In my opinion, speeding is a more serious offense than stealing a golf cart...

I'm not condoning speeding, but 6 mph over the 20 mph speed limit is more serious than stealing a golf cart? You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.

[HimandMe]

Originally Posted by snowbird22154

$140 for 26 mph in a 20 mph zone and not even a "school zone". And I'm sure there are many many of "The Villagers" that are getting "taken" to the cleaners daily but many "Villagers" also have exceeded the 20 mph "trap" almost daily but your turn is coming

And yes I have also heard "horror stories" about the Golf Carts getting $600 tickets!....over and over but there's a lot of difference in being in a Golf Cart & a automobile doing 26 mph !!!

What happened to "warnings"? like the olden days.
It's not like I was doing 90 mph in a school zone @

And they think Bernie Madoff was a crook??? I know some of the "do gooders" love it when "others" do such a terrible crime

Any attorney's available?

Seems very excessive for six miles over. I remember my mom teaching me how to drive saying go 5 miles over or the speed limit because if you go slower the other drivers will hate you. You never got stopped unless it was at least ten miles over. Although on roundabouts, you need to go the speed limit.
I'm glad to see police are watching as so many, mostly construction workers fly past or do strange things. I would think 95% of Villagers have gone 6 miles over. And.....

[bookseller61]

When some of you law abiders get a ticket for going a few miles an hour over the 20 mph speed liMIT perhaps you won't need to be so high and mighty! One momentary distraction shouldn't cost anybody hundreds of dollars for such a minor discretion . Get off your high horses. When it happens to you you'll be singing a new tune! You shouldn't have to live being paranoid or hyper-aware AR
T all times that you might accidently be a few ticks above the very low speed limit. This is more about raising money for the county coffers than it is about enforcrment!

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I love reading all the opinions, those I agree with as well as those which are wrong.

[Gpsma]

So your mother told you to speed or you will be hated by others? There is a more than subtle attempt at teaching you to not be yourself but go with the pack. Interesting.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by TwinTurboViper

..(snipped due to length) .... but speeding is not doing 26 mph or some other "ridiculous" speed such as this. .... It also amazes me how so many of the "How Great Thou Art" NORTHERN people think everyone "else" should be crucified.....because "they" NEVER do anything wrong. So I guess "this person" was also IN THE WRONG and the laws are "always" right? Some people need to understand "common sense".

Speeding is going faster than the posted limit. Common sense is abiding by the law.
I don't think any "Northerner" was saying anything other than ....
If you choose to speed, don't be a crybaby when you get a ticket!

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

I'm not condoning speeding, but 6 mph over the 20 mph speed limit is more serious than stealing a golf cart? You're kidding, right? Please tell me your kidding.

I'm serious. Speeding is a very serious offense that may endanger other people.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by TwinTurboViper

My advice – Don’t exceed 20mph by even 2 mph ......even in a 30 mph zone....... OR HAVE A RECORD & PAY FOR THE NEXT POLICE OFFICERS PAY RAISE...... "Only In The Friendly Hometown".... The Villages

First of all, the speed limit in the cart lane is 20, not 30 like the roadway.
Second, if the cart was ACTUALLY going 22 it seems excessive, I'm not sure the radar guns are even that accurate. But I've been passed by "carts" (not LSVs) going 30+.
The problem is that you have to draw a line somewhere.
The line between cart and LSV is 20 mph, right or wrong
The line in a 20 mph zone IS 20 mph---not 26.
People get upset when they are caught "crossing the line", probably because the chances of getting caught are low, and there is variability in enforcement as well. If you KNEW that you would be caught EVERY time you were speeding, and that EVERYONE ELSE was equally caught, I think there would be more people obeying speed limits. But again, if you gamble and lose, don't be a crybaby

[kansasr]

I'm sorry, but that's the equivalent of doing 91 on the Turnpike....