[bopat]

It’s mental illness not rights

[Taltarzac725]

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I did find this which seems to imply that the Sumter County police officer was right. Or, maybe he is with Lady Lake. Or, even maybe Marion. Things are a little complicated
around here.


One thing seems certain though is that this has little to do with homeless vets and a lot more with trolls seeking money from lawsuits.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by ffresh

And IMHO God bless them all! Government, at all levels, increasingly violates citizens' Constitutional rights unceasingly. Many cops are totally ignorant on many aspects of the laws they are paid to enforce and frequently violate many rights they have sworn to protect, particularly Constitutional law/rights; others just don't care. Hand them a gun and badge and some quickly become tyrants. And this abuse is increasing at an alarming rate. And NO, I am not anti-cop - I am anti BAD cops. These "auditors" provide VALUABLE education to police departments across the country and do yeoman's work in helping to keep our rights intact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTz1SwRdldw

FredF

IMO

once arrested and accused you are guilty till prove your innocences…..think about it? You have to get lawyer prepare defense and go to justice system and plead your defense/case.

How many read/watch videos on accused crimes and already prejudiced?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Yeah, I saw that the other three times it was posted. Thanks for making my point though; he was asked to leave District property due to his actions.

He was standing on public property. There was nothing about his actions that would warrant being asked to leave it. He wasn't soliciting for donations, he wasn't trying to stop anyone to engage with them, his sign didn't say anything offensive (unless you're anti-god, anti-homeless, or anti-veteran I suppose). He wasn't blocking the sidewalk or preventing anyone else from using it in any way, he wasn't littering. He was literally standing there holding up a "God Bless The Homeless Vets" sign and giving a friendly wave to people passing by.

I'd give him points off for the low quality of the sign, he probably should get it printed professionally if he's going to use it in further videos, but that's just me being critical of hand-made signs on cardboard.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

HOA Sidewalks: Who's Responsible? | PPM HOA Sidewalks: Who's Responsible? | PPM


I did find this which seems to imply that the Sumter County police officer was right. Or, maybe he is with Lady Lake. Or, even maybe Marion. Things are a little complicated
around here.


One thing seems certain though is that this has little to do with homeless vets and a lot more with trolls seeking money from lawsuits.

The sidewalk isn't in an HOA. And there's nothing on that website that covers the USE of a public sidewalk on a public street, or the rights or responsibilities of pedestrians.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

He was standing on public property. There was nothing about his actions that would warrant being asked to leave it. He wasn't soliciting for donations, he wasn't trying to stop anyone to engage with them, his sign didn't say anything offensive (unless you're anti-god, anti-homeless, or anti-veteran I suppose). He wasn't blocking the sidewalk or preventing anyone else from using it in any way, he wasn't littering. He was literally standing there holding up a "God Bless The Homeless Vets" sign and giving a friendly wave to people passing by.

I'd give him points off for the low quality of the sign, he probably should get it printed professionally if he's going to use it in further videos, but that's just me being critical of hand-made signs on cardboard.

You call it public property and I call it District property. You counter that it is adjacent to a public road and I point out that the road was built by the Villages on land owned by the Villages and while maintenance was probably turned over to the county that doesn’t necessarily mean that ownership of the land was turned over to the county.

The sign is part of his schtick, not a mistake in any way.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

You call it public property and I call it District property. You counter that it is adjacent to a public road and I point out that the road was built by the Villages on land owned by the Villages and while maintenance was probably turned over to the county that doesn’t necessarily mean that ownership of the land was turned over to the county.

The sign is part of his schtick, not a mistake in any way.

Good points!

The address for the call for help came from a Villages office in Lake Sumter Landing. That does look like Villages' property including the sidewalk.


This guy tries to provoke a response that allows him to take it to his lawyer or lawyers.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

IMO

once arrested and accused you are guilty till prove your innocences…..think about it? You have to get lawyer prepare defense and go to justice system and plead your defense/case.

How many read/watch videos on accused crimes and already prejudiced?

So what would be the alternative? Complaining is great, but without a solution or alternative, it's merely noise.

[ffresh]

Originally Posted by billlaur

He is a vet

I already knew that; I have seen some of his videos on YouTube. My point is he doesn't have to be a vet to express that sentiment

FredF