[Wiotte]

Originally Posted by Beth P

If you know a way for me to do that without sinking a lot more money, please tell me. I have already spoken with one attorney.

Contact others here that have had the same problem. I believe one group is already seeking action. Do a search here for the threads.


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[New Englander]

Originally Posted by Beth P

Just catching up on this thread. Our home is 3 years old. We had significant shingle loss. Unfortunately, we had major water damage INSIDE our home (entire lanai, 16x16 area of great room and section of master bedroom). Our roofer pointed out to us several large slashes in our felt paper (some were six feet long). We disclosed this to our insurance adjustor. Our concern is for the remainder of our roof (the undamaged portion) and whether or not the felt paper under those shingles is also slashed. Clearly, the reason we have inside water damage is secondary to the felt paper being slashed. Consequently, we hired a certified roof inspector to inspect the remaining shingles. He pulled up 3 random shingles and under 2 of them found irregular nailing patterns and over driven nails. We have a full report from him. We have many pictures of the slashed felt paper (not torn, slashed), improper nailing of shingles and damage to the inside of our house. We have contacted the Villages Warranty. Our roofer was Sacks roofing. We spoke with the owner of the roofing company who takes no responsibility. As we are out of warranty, The Villages also takes no responsibility. We have contacted an attorney but it is not enough money for them to bother. Our insurance company also will not bother going after the builder or roofer because it's not enough money for them to worry about. Meanwhile, we are out an $8,000.00 deductible (that's another story) and we have a crappy roof. The limit for small claims court is $5,000.00. Basically, we're just screwed and everyone who messed up goes on installing crappy roofs.

We love our home and we love living in The Villages but this is all so wrong and it seems there is nothing we can do about it. FRUSTRATED!!! I wonder how the Villages Warranty department would handle it if it was THEIR house.

I feel really bad for you. I have no advice but I hope you get help with this.

[YourHoneyDoHandyman]

Originally Posted by pauld315

I know nothing about roofing. We lost a total of 17 shingles during Irma. My house was built in 1999 and they used 3 tab shingles when they built it. I still have the original roof and the guy who repaired the shingles said the existing shingles probably have another 10 years of life on them if they don't get blown off with another storm, which is good. However, he said the reason we lost shingles with Irma was because they hadn't been nailed down at installation time ! He said the whole roof is like that, even in areas where repairs have been made previously. That, to me, is unbelievable and something I will be hiring a roof inspector to come look at when I return there. Do I have any recourse against the warranty department if this is the case? I have never heard of such a thing.

What exactly do you mean that the shingles were not nailed down at installation time and even on repaired areas? Did he actually mean "no nails" or was he talking about the sealant not adhering to the shingle under it? Any pictures? As far as a warranty claim, you have an 18 year old roof.

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by pauld315

I know nothing about roofing. We lost a total of 17 shingles during Irma. My house was built in 1999 and they used 3 tab shingles when they built it. I still have the original roof and the guy who repaired the shingles said the existing shingles probably have another 10 years of life on them if they don't get blown off with another storm, which is good. However, he said the reason we lost shingles with Irma was because they hadn't been nailed down at installation time ! He said the whole roof is like that, even in areas where repairs have been made previously. That, to me, is unbelievable and something I will be hiring a roof inspector to come look at when I return there. Do I have any recourse against the warranty department if this is the case? I have never heard of such a thing.

How could they install shingles on a roof and not use any nails? I was not a roofer but I worked almost 40yrs in commercial construction and if this is actually true something is very wrong. You're doing the right thing hiring someone who really knows roofing to look at this.

[pauld315]

Originally Posted by YourHoneyDoHandyman

What exactly do you mean that the shingles were not nailed down at installation time and even on repaired areas? Did he actually mean "no nails" or was he talking about the sealant not adhering to the shingle under it? Any pictures? As far as a warranty claim, you have an 18 year old roof.

He told me they were not nailed down as in "no nails" As far as I can figure the shingles are only being held in place by the sealant. He said when he was removing adjoining shingles there were no nails holding them in place. I have never heard of anything like this, if true. As I said, I will have a roofing inspector look at this when I am there. Unfortunately, I have no pictures at this point.