[YouNeverKnow]

Originally Posted by DEWRDW

What is the rating of this hospital? Does anyone know off hand - I am wondering how many have passed away due to lack of care? I woud like to know the true facts - does anyone really have them??

Here is a link to the Hospital rating.
Villages Regional Hospital, The in The Villages, Florida - Ratings and Details

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by Challenger

who are the greedy ones with the easy get rich quick jobs you refer to?

please read the entire post.

[bonrich]

I wonder if the facilities involved, Hospital, Urgent Care, EMT's could work out a plan, together or using consultants, that would encompass the concerns that are stated here again and again.
Expand Urgent Care facilities, i.e. hours, services. EMT's could be instructed to divert certain cases to our neighbor hospital ER's with larger facilities. Then they could drop and return to their post.
Long term, use the history of incidences in the ER to see what is warranted, expansion, personnel, complete revamp of the admissions. Money, yes, as with all a cost is involved, but as our population increases and ages, every health care service will have to increase also. Reimbursement is a major concern in the long term, especially after the new health care fires up, so does that mean only the large survive?
That example of the small brush fire behind the guard shack at the Sanibel gate did happen. Our neighbor saw the smoke and fire starting as he was driving through the gate, he drove to the fire station about 100 yards away, and it was closed. Was it because they were transporting and waiting with a emergency case at the TV hospital, and could not drop and go back? Another Fire station answered the call, but what if it was a home on fire with the potential of spreading, and a station that was a 100 yards and minutes away was closed.......

[senior citizen]

Certainly not that long, but most emergency room waits are long, for whatever reason.

Once, in our small town hospital (population 16,000 souls....so not a huge city), I had to wait what seemed like forever for the orthopedic surgeon to arrive after our son, age 10, broke his leg (got kicked accidentally by another player) while playing youth soccer. His coach called me; the coach accompanied son to the emergency room via ambulance and then we arrived. They gave him one aspirin. Put him in the hallway. We have a great hospital.........but the wait was like an eternity.

When my husband had his gallbladder attack but thought it was a heart attack, he got in 1.2.3. I guess they take the worst case emergency first.......but our son had to lay out in the hallway for hours.

When my mom tripped over a "log" while on a field trip with her senior center club........they also took her right in......so I guess up here it is a matter of priority or seniority..........or maybe it was just a slow day.

Wonder if there was a heart attack patient or very critical patient who came in first?

But, that is a sad story with all the elderly waiting and waiting in the emergency room...........hopefully, next time it is a shorter wait in TV

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Do you honestly think he is not a REAL person? Because he is rich he has no good qualities?..
What makes you so sure that he is a bad person?

That makes me so angry. I don't know him but why would you think just because he is a "businessman" that he is bad? That is class envy.

Please read my post more thoroughly. I did not say he was bad. I did not say he was rich. I did not say he has no good qualities. I don't think that because he is a businessman that he is bad.

As CaptJohn said "Another aspect not mentioned so far is that there are readers who either read too fast and jump to early conclusions or simply pick out the words of a post and latch onto them without reading the whole thing. Then they attack the parts offensive to them without getting the grasp of the whole. Off go the fireworks unnecessarily. "

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

please read the entire post.

I did and my question is the same

"who are the greedy ones with the easy, get rich quick jobs you refer to?"

[Yorio]

On Jan 1 at 1:30 am, 2013 my wife asked me to call an ambulance as her stomach area was hurting bad. Ambulance came right away which was very good but they told me that they could not take her to The Village hospital as it is at full capacity. They said we can either go to Ocala Regional or Munroe. Leesburg was another possibility. We went to Ocala Regional and although we had to stay by the corridor with no room availability until mid-morning, she was getting check ups which turned out to be gall bladder stones acting up. Even if she had no room, she was getting checked which we were grateful. We are also grateful for the quick response time of The Villages ambulance team. Not the best scenario but we were still grateful. Definitely ER issue will get worse around The Villages as the place matures and as we get older. I am hoping USF/The Villages are looking in to resolve the issue.

[Bill32]

Originally Posted by Heartnsoul

Just Wait till the new Affordable Healthcare law kicks in. You've seen nothing yet!!! 30 million more coming in thanks to americans who voted for it. And us seniors will be the First ones to feel it.

Agree completely, it always comes down to the money. If it was a profitable enterprise they would hire more doctors and nurses and do more business, no? Business 101. How likely is there to be 5, 10 ,20 life and death cases before you?? Understaffed and overwhelmed.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by Challenger

I did and my question is the same

"who are the greedy ones with the easy, get rich quick jobs you refer to?"

This is my post:
Seems to be a few common complaints here that repeats:

Too many people given medical care.
Dr's not paid enough.
Care givers work too hard.

What happened to the caregivers of the past that did this work without wanting an easy job to get rich quick. You now have more paper pushing staff than caregivers in a hospital in my opinion, due to greed. If the ER is busy then line em up like an assembly line and move them thru the ER and out the back door. Health Care MUST return to helping everyone quickly and not just the rich. I know, I get on my soap box, but when I hear how the 30 Million people are going to be added to the list of those that get medical treatment is a bad thing, it makes the hair on my neck stand up. I believe everyone should be cared for in a christian manner regardless of their social status.

If you read this you will see I never referred to anyone as you say ("who are the greedy ones with the easy, get rich quick jobs). You are mixing two different sentences to make some silly question. So, I cannot answer a question that has no basis. Now if you have a serious question about my post, I will be happy to respond, but not to a leading jab to start an argument.

[JourneyOfLife]

Originally Posted by Mack184

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The problems that plague TVRH are financial. That isn't going to improve unless there's a BIG infusion of money.

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Lower reimbursements from Medicare and Medicaid will only make the problem more difficult. We know the percentage of Medicare recipient is high. Not sure about Medicaid.

Someone could float bonds to build infrastructure... peoples earnings are a different matter. Especially Doctors who might be running their own practice... what entices them to relocate to that area.


Another issue is the seasonal crowd in winter. The level of demand for ER services is not the same during each season (it can't be). No one will ever be able to justify staffing for 12 months to meet 3 months of peak demand.

[daviskgb]

The Villages Regional Hospital has some of the worst quality ratings in the state. This publically reported data can be found at a website developed by Medicare called hospitalcompare. Their ratings gave me pause about moving here and I wrote a letter to them addressing my concerns and receive a canned response. I have found my healthcare elsewhere, in Gainesville at Shands. It is shameful that we tolerate a facility that historically has under-performed across the the board on clinical outcomes, patient satisfaction, patient safety, readmission and mortality rates.

[Moderator]

There are a number of posts that have strayed off topic into political, personal, and other subjects.

A reminder, the topic is the Villages Hospital Emergency Room.

[memason]

.... nevermind ...

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

This issue will impact home sales. People who are looking for a retirement almost always check out medical care. It is one of the first things many look for. And if this word gets out, sales will suffer. When they do, the problem will be fixed. Probably not until the impact is felt on the bottom line though.

You are correct. However, sales will not suffer to the point that it would be recognized or attributed to any discussion on a forum. The reality is we have totally insufficient health care here in The Villages and I for one would have reconsidered moving here because of it. Someone else would have bought my house and every house of all of us here on TOTV who feel we need a change. The problem would still exist and will for a long time to come. No one is hurt except for those that are not getting proper medical care.....which unfortunately can be each and every one of us. Very sad situation. We are sitting ducks.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by mickey100

Please read my post more thoroughly. I did not say he was bad. I did not say he was rich. I did not say he has no good qualities. I don't think that because he is a businessman that he is bad.

As CaptJohn said "Another aspect not mentioned so far is that there are readers who either read too fast and jump to early conclusions or simply pick out the words of a post and latch onto them without reading the whole thing. Then they attack the parts offensive to them without getting the grasp of the whole. Off go the fireworks unnecessarily. "

Here is your post.

QUOTE=mickey100;659169]Do you honestly think he is going to do that? What's in it for him? He's already rented the space out. As many others have pointed out, he's a business man and that is pretty much his bottom line. Unless there is money in it for him, or as l2ridehd suggested - housing sales would be impacted , I would expect his energies to be devoted elsewhere.[/QUOTE]