[Cedwards38]

In my entire time living in The Villages, I've met one couple who say they do not like living here, yet they still live here, so go figure. I wouldn't take the discussions on TOTV as a indication that people are disenchanted with this community. Those are often about a specific situation, and last for a specific period of time, and certainly not everyone agrees. A place can be fantastic and still not be perfect. And if it isn't perfect, then it's up to those of us that love it and enjoy it to try to make it so.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I only find people that are unhappy here are usually just unhappy. I find many people who are ecstatic to be here and love every day that they wake up to enjoy whatever they choose to do

Wow. I couldn't express it any better.

[jebartle]

Love this place and the fun-loving Villagers... Really hard to find anything wrong with TV.. Life is good.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

As Thoreau says in the Conclusion to Walden, "The fault finder will find faults even in paradise".

Dear Posters:

I do read every post on every thread if I intend to comment. My first observation is that many posters paint with a broad brush. What i mean by this is some conclude because a resident complains about something that s/he is unhappy and would be unhappy anywhere. But the other side of that coin is the complaint may be justified., is a temporary distraction and certainly isn't an indicator that this person is unhappy at least to the extent indicated by some posters

My second observation has to do with the Thoreau. I do understand the meaning of his statement but paradise (heavenly place) is a subjective concept and to me it means eternal life, no disease, no pain, no discomfort........................Such a place cannot be found on earth and hence you can't fault fault finders for finding fault that;s the human reality.

In my view some posters are judging people and not what people are complaining about. Some folks do crowds well my wife is one of them. I don't because I promised myself that once I left the military no more lines

This same topic comes up time after time on this forum. Some view TV as paradise, some do not. Some of us are social and view TV from that perspective, some of us our more political and focus on government (Districts).....But i believe it is unfair to dismiss out of hand or define someone who complains as doing so just because they will never be satisfied because that is too broad a brush and at the time it is happening to you its personal ( that guy just pulled out in front of me).( that green is so tore up we might default to the automatic two putt rule and move on). Consider too, the other side of this issue perhaps those painting with this broad brush are too easily satisfied that's not always good thing either.

I am just trying to find balance here

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

I've read all the posts.............seems like you are the only one.

Why would anyone ever complain about TV on this forum? All of you would jump down his throat just like you did the OP.

I can think of lots of things I do not like about the Villages but I am not going to share them with anyone here.

These problems will never go away but they are not going to change my happiness with living here.

Z

[Buffalo Jim]

Long practiced " cranks " love it here because they are now retired and can pursue their favorite hobby of eternal " Unhappiness " and " Victim-hood " 24/7 .
And as an added benefit they have a very large community of generally very happy people they can constantly " rain their diatribes on " 7 days a week .
There is a unique life-style opportunity for every passion in the Villages !

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim

Long practiced " cranks " love it here because they are now retired and can pursue their favorite hobby of eternal " Unhappiness " and " Victim-hood " 24/7 .
And as an added benefit they have a very large community of generally very happy people they can constantly " rain their diatribes on " 7 days a week .
There is a unique life-style opportunity for every passion in the Villages !

[MikeyBoo54]

We've only been here 7 months and it seems to me like Jim's not wrong. I just don't equate being easily satisfied with not complaining. There is a middle ground.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim

Long practiced " cranks " love it here because they are now retired and can pursue their favorite hobby of eternal " Unhappiness " and " Victim-hood " 24/7 .
And as an added benefit they have a very large community of generally very happy people they can constantly " rain their diatribes on " 7 days a week .
There is a unique life-style opportunity for every passion in the Villages !

That's not a fair and balanced assessment but it does underscore why a resident should be reluctant to tell the truth because for sure someone is going to label them as this individual did above. So to all truth tellers be aware that some residents just can't handle the truth because you just might rain on their disneyworld parade .

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by zcaveman

Why would anyone ever complain about TV on this forum? All of you would jump down his throat just like you did the OP.

I can think of lots of things I do not like about the Villages but I am not going to share them with anyone here.

These problems will never go away but they are not going to change my happiness with living here.

Z

Agree , people are not looking for honesty there looking for mutual adoration society for the villages lifestyle.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Dear Posters:

I do read every post on every thread if I intend to comment. My first observation is that many posters paint with a broad brush. What i mean by this is some conclude because a resident complains about something that s/he is unhappy and would be unhappy anywhere. But the other side of that coin is the complaint may be justified., is a temporary distraction and certainly isn't an indicator that this person is unhappy at least to the extent indicated by some posters

My second observation has to do with the Thoreau. I do understand the meaning of his statement but paradise (heavenly place) is a subjective concept and to me it means eternal life, no disease, no pain, no discomfort........................Such a place cannot be found on earth and hence you can't fault fault finders for finding fault that;s the human reality.

In my view some posters are judging people and not what people are complaining about. Some folks do crowds well my wife is one of them. I don't because I promised myself that once I left the military no more lines

This same topic comes up time after time on this forum. Some view TV as paradise, some do not. Some of us are social and view TV from that perspective, some of us our more political and focus on government (Districts).....But i believe it is unfair to dismiss out of hand or define someone who complains as doing so just because they will never be satisfied because that is too broad a brush and at the time it is happening to you its personal ( that guy just pulled out in front of me).( that green is so tore up we might default to the automatic two putt rule and move on). Consider too, the other side of this issue perhaps those painting with this broad brush are too easily satisfied that's not always good thing either.

I am just trying to find balance here

I agree with you and zcaveman. To imply that because someone dares to voice complaints with the Villages, and therefore they are unhappy people that would never be satisfied with anything, is a big stretch, and IMHO, not too logical. Of course there are things that people legitimately complain about. And of course there are people who truly are unhappy, but I believe to base our judgements about the part of a person we see on this forum, is short sighted. I have spoken with people who post on this forum who say they are afraid to express their real views about some issues, because of the attacks they will endure.

[Arctic Fox]

Never let it be said that I am an apologist for The Villages, but I do think that this thread is one of the few that has remained fairly balanced. People have their opinions, but both sides have been recorded here in reasonable numbers, without recourse to too much in the way of name-calling.

And it has yet to be Shanghaid by those wishing to express their opinions on dog poop, roundabouts and cyclists on Buena Vista...

[Polar Bear]

How about...TV is a wonderful-but-not-perfect place to retire, good for many but not for everyone.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Agree , people are not looking for honesty there looking for mutual adoration society for the villages lifestyle.

Most seniors, after they have made a decision to relocate to a retirement community, want to remain happy and content and be supported by affirmations as to the wisdom of their choice. They want to obtain and retain a positive outlook on life and enjoy it as best they can. They really do not want to hear the downside(s) or dwell on criticisms (valid or not) but delight in receiving comments on the merits of their selection and bask in the rewards during their golden years most have worked hard for a lifetime to achieve.

The success of The Villages speaks for itself with now over 100,000 residents, most of whom appear to be quite happy. Obviously there are those who are most happy when they are grumbling, griping and fault finding but thankfully they are few in number.

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by tomwed

I do wonder what it would be like to have a metal shop too.

I'd be the first member if they had a machine shop.