I don't recall there being a flag at the Brownwood stage. Did Hayfire have one at their performance?

If they brought one in just for this song, was it transported, presented, and placed correctly and did those attending react properly?

I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of using the pledge as part of a performance To open a meeting, absolutely. To elicit a response by an audience at your performance, no.

You would get no "stink eye" from me. I would be busy eating my dinner, too.

Given we have many Canadian home owners in TV I have often wondered 1 - what they do 2 - how they feel when various groups at the rec centers start their activity with the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the USA.

Spent a lot of time in Canada. Canada is our neighbor, friend and ally. Out of courtesy we would stand respectfully during those times their anthem was played. That's what friends do, imho.

I don’t know why people think this milk sop song should require standing for , I guess it’s one of those only in the village moments and no I never stand for it , I’m afraid to ,I might get sick on the person in front of me and I have to wonder why the pledge is being used for a bands performance , sort of like the used car dealer with the 30 flags outside proclaiming he’s proud to be an American , I’ve always stood for the national anthem and that’s it and I would only stand for the pledge in a proper setting and not for the PR stunt by some band , and I shouldn’t have to defend my post but I’ll say this I’m a Vietnam combat multi Purple Heart , multi tour paratrooper who went back with another government agency doing the same thing in Laos , and Cambodia

"You da Man!" But you already knew that.

:bowdown::bowdown: bowdown::bowdown 1000% agree. Not one person knows what is in a person's heart and mind. You can not say whether a person is patriotic due to your definition, just like you can not say whether someone is religious with your definition.

My question was specific to the pledge of allegiance. Given you spent a lot of time in Canada how did you handle standing to give an "oath" to a foreign country's flag ? Standing for an anthem is not the same as taking an oath.

How did you handle it ?

Simply stand
Stand and remove your cap
Stand with hand over heart
Stand with hand over heart and pretend to mouth the words

How often did this happen to you ? At what kind of events ? Here in TV this realistically could be a daily event to a Canadian home owner participating in rec activities.

Spoiler alert - Canadians do not have a pledge of allegiance to their flag.

Did you know our pledge of allegiance was invented as a marketing ploy to sell magazines ?

I stand for my own UK national anthem (a dire dirge) and any other nations.
I would respect The Pledge of Allegiance if the done thing was to stand.
Apart from that I stand for nothing, and I cannot stand overt patriotism.

I don’t see the point in saying the pledge before a clay modeling class at a rec center………………..
This is really being done?

Thank you !! I was talking about the pledge of allegiance

Yes many many times - Example quilt guilds and nurse's club.

I agree with your disagreement!:bigbow:

Saw Lee Greenwood perform God Bless the U.S.A. a long time ago. I really enjoyed the experience as it was the first time and it moved me. Now it appears to be a way for a performer to engage an audience that has been less than enthusiastic. Also, the Pledge of Allegiance is not meant to be an attention getter. I have stood for O Canada at the Blackhawks game when they play it for visiting Canadian teams.

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Most of us knew that...



Edit to add: After re-reading the thread, I'm even more surprised how many couldn't noodle that thru...