[Velvet]

Originally Posted by DianeM

If that gives you peace then go for it.

Lol, I am kidding, I think it is much easier to change your own behavior than other people’s.

But sometimes I would love to be like my mom. When the family went camping and there were mosquitoes around she’d step outside of the car and spray and spray and spray. I’d love to have can of anti-virus spray.

[Heyitsrick]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

My concern is that, if you only open states that don't have many coronavirus cases, how do you prevent people from travelling to those states?

Notwithstanding it may sound facetious to say (not intended), but given that these states in question don't have many coronavirus cases, the assumption might be that not many are traveling to them. That said, there's always traveling through them, though.

[Number 10 GI]

We have to get the economy rolling again, the economy will only stand so much of this before it collapses. I would say most of the people living here do so from social security and investments. We got our statements for our IRA's the other day and WOW, we took a pretty good hit. There is no way you can live here just on SS so if your investments shrink what are you going to do? I do have a couple small pensions but if the economy gets bad enough even those might be reduced. With the whole world in the same boat as us we could possibly slide into a world wide depression if the situation is allowed to become worse. There are going to be a lot of small businesses that will fold and all those employees will be on unemployment. Most people work for small and medium businesses, not large corporations. With the potential of millions of people on unemployment and welfare where is the money going to come to pay for those social programs? Less spending equals less revenue, less revenue and there isn't enough money to pay for the aid.
I keep hearing as soon as we test everyone and find out who is infected then we can start opening the country up and go to work. This thought is a fallacy! There is close to 350 million people in the US, do you realize how long it will take to manufacture the tests, administer them and then get labs to provide the results? I have no idea because we don't have the infrastructure for something of this magnitude. OK so we test people and identify the sick ones and the uninfected ones. Two days later the uninfected ones pick up the virus and now what? Run a test on 350 million people every day to make sure we find all the infected people?
Let the younger people who aren't affected as much as us old folks get back to work and we stay at home until this blows over.
When the government runs out of money they will start to print more which will cause unbelievable inflation. The price for your $2.00 loaf of bread will rise due to the inflation and the value of the money will fall. Your investments/savings value won't increase and will be quickly depleted.
It's real easy to be retired drawing pensions and living off investments and demand that businesses stay closed whereas the working people who have mortgages, car payments, credit card bills and daily living expenses don't have that luxury. Watch some of the documentaries on the Great Depression with the soup lines and people living in tents. Are you comfortable with that, especially if you are standing in that soup line?

[DianeM]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

We have to get the economy rolling again, the economy will only stand so much of this before it collapses. I would say most of the people living here do so from social security and investments. We got our statements for our IRA's the other day and WOW, we took a pretty good hit. There is no way you can live here just on SS so if your investments shrink what are you going to do? I do have a couple small pensions but if the economy gets bad enough even those might be reduced. With the whole world in the same boat as us we could possibly slide into a world wide depression if the situation is allowed to become worse. There are going to be a lot of small businesses that will fold and all those employees will be on unemployment. Most people work for small and medium businesses, not large corporations. With the potential of millions of people on unemployment and welfare where is the money going to come to pay for those social programs? Less spending equals less revenue, less revenue and there isn't enough money to pay for the aid.
I keep hearing as soon as we test everyone and find out who is infected then we can start opening the country up and go to work. This thought is a fallacy! There is close to 350 million people in the US, do you realize how long it will take to manufacture the tests, administer them and then get labs to provide the results? I have no idea because we don't have the infrastructure for something of this magnitude. OK so we test people and identify the sick ones and the uninfected ones. Two days later the uninfected ones pick up the virus and now what? Run a test on 350 million people every day to make sure we find all the infected people?
Let the younger people who aren't affected as much as us old folks get back to work and we stay at home until this blows over.
When the government runs out of money they will start to print more which will cause unbelievable inflation. The price for your $2.00 loaf of bread will rise due to the inflation and the value of the money will fall. Your investments/savings value won't increase and will be quickly depleted.
It's real easy to be retired drawing pensions and living off investments and demand that businesses stay closed whereas the working people who have mortgages, car payments, credit card bills and daily living expenses don't have that luxury. Watch some of the documentaries on the Great Depression with the soup lines and people living in tents. Are you comfortable with that, especially if you are standing in that soup line?

I so agree with you on the testing malarkey. One can be negative on Tuesday and positive on Thursday. We’re talking about those that test positive as if they have leprosy. At the end of the day, it’s a virus.

We have got to get life running again. Businesses need to open. We cannot live in exile much longer or we’ll be the United States of Venezuela.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I believe that both the federal government and our state government, in fact, most state governments have done an excellent job in fighting this pandemic. I believe that they'll make the right decisions on what to open when.

Trump was asked by a reporter what was done by the federal government in the month of February to prepare for this pandemic. He cut her off at the knees and answered her question with "A lot".

What kind of an answer is that? Honestly, what did our federal government do to prepare for this pandemic in February and the first two weeks of March? I wish our president was more specific with his answer. I'd like to know too.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Velvet

This is just my opinion, but each day I see the news the virus management seems better and better. I think any opening of the economy will be evaluated carefully each day and recalled if necessary.

I agree with you. There’s to much that we don’t know about the virus to criticize the govt. Just do as they ask. Just look at the Rep. & Dem. they can’t work together so we shouldn’t start sounding like we know how to handle this! Rep. & Dem. sound like we do here, making comments. To tough to explain, so I’m not going to criticize either party. Just do what you think you should do to be safe. If you’re out & about, stay the heck away from me. Don’t like what some people in Mich. are doing right now.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Some social distancing may be needed into 2022 to keep coronavirus in check, new study says

Study sees need for some social distancing into 2022 to curb coronavirus

2 yrs. is a long time not to be able to hug your kids & grandkids! In 2 yrs. we could be all dead or bowing down to another country. Worse yet the whole world could be dead or we could be a World War with every country fighting each other.

[Yukon33]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

It’s not that complicated.
Money or lives.
Their is no normal until Covid 19 is eradicated. To think otherwise is the thinking of a demented mind.

Lives lost how? From the virus or from suicide, depression and domestic violence from staying home and not working?

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by jswirs

I think everything should be open and operating as it was. Those that are afraid of getting the virus should stay home, of all those that contract the virus, most will recover at home. Not all that much different from the various pandemics we have survived through in the past. If you have taken care of yourself, watched what you put into you body and exercised daily, most likely you'll survive.

Boy,what a selfish attitude. News flash - not everyone has been imbued with good health, no matter how well they ate and exercised. There are cancer patients, people born with diabetes, all other sorts of other medically compromised people walking around that will not do well if they contract Covid - in fact many will die. They have to go in public for certain activities - doctor appointments for example, so it is impossible for them to avoid coming into contact with other people. If there are people who are asymptomatic and are also carrying the virus, they can be spreading it to others without realizing it.

[JoMar]

The body count will be the collateral damage to save the economy.....and for most here that is acceptable. We now wait for the Governor to apply the CDC recommendations laid out this afternoon. Will be interesting.

[Decadeofdave]

I am going to do what I always have done to avoid the flu, wash hands, do not touch public handles and doors, public tables etc. Think like a germaphobe, don't get near a close talker. Sanitize your hands when you are out and about all day. Common sense is at least 75% percent of the solution

[DianeM]

Originally Posted by JoMar

The body count will be the collateral damage to save the economy.....and for most here that is acceptable. We now wait for the Governor to apply the CDC recommendations laid out this afternoon. Will be interesting.

Not acceptable - loss of any life is sad - but inevitable. People do need to earn the funds to support themselves and their families. I suspect we’ll open up some around May 1st. Really the recommendations are no big thing for first wave - social distancing, no crowds over 10, etc.

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by JoMar

The body count will be the collateral damage to save the economy.....and for most here that is acceptable. We now wait for the Governor to apply the CDC recommendations laid out this afternoon. Will be interesting.

A lot of collateral damage may be taking place now while many are waiting to see doctors and have surgeries preformed. How many have died or will die because of medical treatment delays caused by this lockdown. Yes, there are many tradeoffs to be considered as deaths can occur in both scenarios.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Originally Posted by JoMar

The body count will be the collateral damage to save the economy.....and for most here that is acceptable.

Jury's still out on "acceptable," but what a chilling truth. This is the purple elephant in the room. I believe the nation has concluded that sacrificing more lives to the virus serves the greater good of saving the economy and our way of life, as tragic as that is. But nobody has actually articulated it that way yet as far as I know. Clearly a challenging time to be alive. I for one never thought our government would ever be faced with such a ghastly choice.

As Louisiana Senator John Kennedy said the other day, "we can't burn down the village to save it."

[Koapaka]

And when you choose correctly, it works out. When you choose incorrectly, it is considered "thinning of the herd". How ANYONE that is retired, does not have to work for a living considers ANY thing as "REQUIRED" or "Essential" is beyond me. But ya know what, when it is all said and done, those idiots will be far less for those of us that took it seriously enough to deal with next "crisis dejour".