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Byte1 04-15-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1746107)

If the virus is still lurking and we have no weapons against it other than masks, alcohol and distancing, will you go back to your restaurants, town squares, the rec centers for card games, mahjong, jam sessions, Beatles group, ceramics, wood shop, etc.? Or will you continue to stay at home? I'm surprised TV's powers that be haven't polled the I
So why would we want to make a bad situation worse? And why would the current administration want to commit political suicide in the process?

I just don't get it. Can anyone shed some light? What a Sophie's Choice on the part of our leaders on both sides, huh? Either let the economy crumble and the population go mad or kill off a segment of our citizenry.

Ever heard of the Great Depression? There was mass suicides because it was so bad. If we remain closed, some businesses will not reopen. And if the gov does not have revenues, it can't pay all those that benefit from monthly paydays. If you don't like it, you can continue to self-quarantine. No one is going to force you to leave your home. Don't over think it.

Topspinmo 04-15-2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1746304)
The opposite could happen. That's the "political suicide" I mentioned. He's the last person who would do anything to derail his reelection. But if there's a second wave in the fall as many are predicting, he's toast.

He’s not politician. All your Monday morning career politician quarterbacks are. Who always seem to have the right answer afterwords which they made no decision before hand.


We could still be shut down to fall and second wave could STILL happen and third. There could be no solution to vaccine for years. Nice to to be Monday morning quarterbacking.

mtlee024 04-15-2020 09:33 AM

Testing Vaccine
 
I read, today, reports of vaccine testing in the state of Washington on humans. It will take 45 plus days to determine if the vacine is working.

Topspinmo 04-15-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmacs (Post 1746631)
China is starting it's "second wave" now because of rushing back to work. 169 new cases yesterday.


169 out of billion, yep, that new wave. Nobody knows how many in China are sick or died.

Topspinmo 04-15-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 1746410)
i must agree. like you, ive never had a flu shot, & am lucky, i dont get the flu. i'm also skeptical of new vax & the country in which they are made


You don’t get flu due to you’re due diligence and habits keeping you safe distance.

Topspinmo 04-15-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1746322)
Would that really be worth it? Two years in captivity?

Guess, opinion, fear mongering

Topspinmo 04-15-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jmarklove (Post 1746271)
News' Alexander Nazaryan:
"Florida now has twice as many coronavirus cases (20,601) as South Korea (10,537).
"About 30 million more people live in South Korea than in Florida."

So, more people From all over the world travel here spreading virus.

Jacob85 04-15-2020 09:44 AM

More people may recover from the virus but not the ones who are old and or having pre- existing conditions so those who want things back to normal, are you willing to put money ahead of peoples lives?

Topspinmo 04-15-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1746280)
I wonder why New York is currently global epicenter of the pandemic with 160,000 cases?


Crammed in like sardines, people from all over the world travel to aNd through spreading virus. By time they know they had problem it was already out of control.

Bill1701 04-15-2020 09:48 AM

If we open the pools, we'll run into the same problems we had before. Too many people staying too close together. There is not enough staff to monitor the pools,clean the equipment, and check IDs.

Topspinmo 04-15-2020 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacob85 (Post 1746671)
More people may recover from the virus but not the ones who are old and or having pre- existing conditions so those who want things back to normal, are you willing to put money ahead of peoples lives?

So, what do you think going to happen when nobody has any money, no hospitals, no federal government, no food?

Aces4 04-15-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1746256)
I don't get it either. Frankly, it sounds like the person in charge wants to open things up the first of May, to ostensibly get the economy going, and of course to aid his re-election bid. Against the advice of the health professionals and experts. I think its just plain stupid. I will be careful and doing social distancing until there is a vaccine available or it is obvious the threat of infection is low. Anyways it is up to the Governors to decide when they open up their states - many are saying it will be at least until June.

If that’s what people have comprehended from the White House updates, I can understand why they have to repeat over and over what is planned. There are excellent, brilliant citizens being tasked with the reopening our country slowly and as safety as possible. While the less than enlightened people stand on the sidelines clucking, the brains of this country know what this country needs to carefully get back to business. Your leaders know much more than the average citizen about the juggling act required to keep US citizens safe and at the same time keeping an eye on the food, medical and basic nessessities supply chain and economy without creating panic. Don’t think there won’t be a food shortage if this country can’t get up and running soon? Our leaders don’t have the luxury of keeping their eyes on just one ball.

sail33or 04-15-2020 10:12 AM

First, this is a "Flu". (Not the Plague). People dying every minute of something. They just aren't posting the score on every media outlet.

I understand if you are 85 or have COPD that you are afraid. But regular flu can kill you also. Falling in Shower will kill you.

I heard a perfectly logical solution to this.

Everyone that is not afraid can resume normal life. Everyone that is "afraid" can stay home as long as they want. They can avoid everyone that has resumed normal life.

Let's not punish hard working families in their 30's, 40's, etc. that have a 99.99% chance of surviving the flu. Healthy people that get Corona Virus are not going to the hospital. They go home to bed for a few days. So overwhelming health care is not going to happen IF those at risk stay home until vaccines, etc.

Jazzman 04-15-2020 10:13 AM

And the longer the economy remains stagnant the more bad news for those out of work. Currently the projected number of people out of work will reach 27 million by June. Think about that. And here in the Villages there are many residents who think once restrictions are eased all will be well. Be rest assured that will not be the case and many business and especially restaurants will remain either closed or go out of business. Those that open will require less employees so the unemployment situation will continue on a large scale which will have more dire consequences socially and economically then the virus itself

Radioman41 04-15-2020 10:14 AM

Interestingly, Sweden and Brazil kept their economies open during the COVD-19 pandemic and their numbers are dropping faster than ours. See Gateway Pundit, April 12, 2020. This would confirm epidemiologist, Knut Wittkowski's statement about herd immunity. The path we are following may lead to a new outbreak next fall. Check out the below video.

Perspectives on the Pandemic | Professor Knut Wittkowski | Episode 2 - YouTube


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