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Bill32 04-15-2020 10:15 AM

When the country starts to open up, and new guidelines are issued, i'll then reevaluate what i'll do and what precautions i'll take....my decision...

Professor 04-15-2020 10:40 AM

For those who have someone in their household with a compromised immune system it is likely the behavior will not go back to what it used to be. Eating out has its hazards with menus that are not sanitized between customers, salt and pepper shakers that rarely if ever get cleaned, ketchup...and the list goes on. Entertainment at the square is important from a social perspective and distance can be somewhat controlled for those who want some distance, but exercise facilities are not likely to be in the cards for some time to come. The country as we knew it will not return to the same old same old in my opinion. Some will of course, but many if us will be much more reserved and aware going forward. At least we can hope we have learned some things through all of this...

Tblue 04-15-2020 10:51 AM

Cuomo said it himself, NYC is being hit so hard for 2 reasons. 1. Our dense population. 2. Our diverse population, our ability to accept people/cultures from all over the world.

LiverpoolWalrus 04-15-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1746684)
So, what do you think going to happen when ... no federal government, no food?

I didn't know these things were at risk. Elaborate?

Rwaccess 04-15-2020 11:15 AM

I agree with you .

Villageswimmer 04-15-2020 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 1746404)
Are you on drugs? Do you know something no one else knows? Chicken little the sky is not falling.

Are you responding to a post??

Aces4 04-15-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1746760)
I didn't know these things were at risk. Elaborate?

Markets have changed. Farmers are dumping milk, strawberries are beginning to rot in the fields for lack of demand, shelves are difficult to restock with some items, meat processing plants have closed due to virus spread within. Most food industries work on a small profit margin, they can’t hold up very long.

DianeM 04-15-2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemalloy (Post 1746579)
......The smart ones know not to show too much disrespect to the individual on the other end of the lifeline.

Perfectly stated.

oldtimes 04-15-2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sail33or (Post 1746716)
First, this is a "Flu". (Not the Plague). People dying every minute of something. They just aren't posting the score on every media outlet.

I understand if you are 85 or have COPD that you are afraid. But regular flu can kill you also. Falling in Shower will kill you.

I heard a perfectly logical solution to this.

Everyone that is not afraid can resume normal life. Everyone that is "afraid" can stay home as long as they want. They can avoid everyone that has resumed normal life.

Let's not punish hard working families in their 30's, 40's, etc. that have a 99.99% chance of surviving the flu. Healthy people that get Corona Virus are not going to the hospital. They go home to bed for a few days. So overwhelming health care is not going to happen IF those at risk stay home until vaccines, etc.

Yes but ordinarily they don't need makeshift hospitals to take care of them because the regular hospitals are too overloaded.

Aces4 04-15-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sail33or (Post 1746716)
First, this is a "Flu". (Not the Plague). People dying every minute of something. They just aren't posting the score on every media outlet.

I understand if you are 85 or have COPD that you are afraid. But regular flu can kill you also. Falling in Shower will kill you.

I heard a perfectly logical solution to this.

Everyone that is not afraid can resume normal life. Everyone that is "afraid" can stay home as long as they want. They can avoid everyone that has resumed normal life.

Let's not punish hard working families in their 30's, 40's, etc. that have a 99.99% chance of surviving the flu. Healthy people that get Corona Virus are not going to the hospital. They go home to bed for a few days. So overwhelming health care is not going to happen IF those at risk stay home until vaccines, etc.

There was a thirty five year old young man, with no underlying health issues, who passed away a few days ago in our area and a healthy, vibrant 78 year old woman. He was married last August and she was healthy until...

They are only numbers to you, their families are devastated.

DianeM 04-15-2020 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacob85 (Post 1746671)
More people may recover from the virus but not the ones who are old and or having pre- existing conditions so those who want things back to normal, are you willing to put money ahead of peoples lives?

Not ahead of lives but equally important. Not to be insensitive but in reality in a country of 330 million, the number of deaths is a drop in the bucket. New York is marking anyone who dies as corona related death. We truly have no real idea of the actual number. We cannot stay holed up forever.

DianeM 04-15-2020 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 1746779)
Yes but ordinarily they don't need makeshift hospitals to take care of them because the regular hospitals are too overloaded.

Which were not used in New York and are already being removed. Way overestimated number of beds and ventilators needed which is a wonderful thing

vilger 04-15-2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Radioman41 (Post 1746722)
Interestingly, Sweden and Brazil kept their economies open during the COVD-19 pandemic and their numbers are dropping faster than ours. See Gateway Pundit, April 12, 2020. This would confirm epidemiologist, Knut Wittkowski's statement about herd immunity. The path we are following may lead to a new outbreak next fall. Check out the below video.

Perspectives on the Pandemic | Professor Knut Wittkowski | Episode 2 - YouTube

Sweden's numbers are dropping fast? Really? In fact they are increasing much faster than their neighbors.

BAT777 04-15-2020 12:11 PM

Is there spraying of insects in TV? 3 nights ago about 10:30 PM a truck in our Villas (very loud) drove up and down the streets and it was obvious some sort of spray was being done by the looks of things. If yes then exactly what is the spray and are we ever notified beforehand? We have been here 10 years and never saw this.

sail33or 04-15-2020 12:29 PM

People are always going point out the .001 percent who died. Every life is unique. So there is nothing to counter, what if the .001 percent was YOU.

I, also know many people who died in the last week of all sorts of issues. Those "other" issues are not preventing people from working.

Why is a flu death different than cancer??? Second hand smoke, Roundup, hairspray, etc., etc cause cancer. Why do people live in trailer homes when tornados kill them every week.

This has happened because many people believe what they see in the Media. Fear is the best news. If the Media said to buy toilet paper, that is what they do. When the Media says all clear, then, and only then will they believe it is okay. I will return to the squares as soon as there are bands. I am pretty sure they would appear tomorrow if allowed.

Again, if you are afraid, stay isolated. But why advocate everyone stay home. By the way. If you are going to the grocery store, you are basically a hypocrite if you advocate social distancing. Restaurants bad, Lowes/Walmart/Grocery Stores okay. Right.


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