[billethkid]

etc?
I attended a meeting of a new club at Seabreeze rec center about the formation of a new club in TV. We were told the club had to sign waivers/release/etc for the Vccccdddd(I forget how many c's and d's!).
Today received an email that each and every participant that walks through the door and sits in a chair needs to sign one also.

I have been to many meetings of clubs or other groups of one kind or another and have never been required to sign any such thing before.

Has anybody else run across this issue?

btk

PS if true then you can add to the list of so called rarities...what one does not like about TV....their ever present paranoia with legal this or legal that to a fault...they are what I would call just in case litigious minded. They always want the ability to be held harmless or come back and bite ya!!!

[PennBF]

From what I heard you do not have to sign thereby giving away your right
to sue, gain reimbursement for any of the Rec Center responsibilities?
Would like to know what an Attorney thinks?

[graciegirl]

I think this is the regimen when you are STARTING a club. We just went through it in our new village to get a room at a rec center for our monthly pot luck.

Everyone who will be a member will be sent a paper.

[dfn8tly]

I've never heard of this before. The only time I can think that it might be necessary would be if you were going to use exercise equipment. However, graciegirl has a point about starting a new club. I've never been involved in that process.

[starflyte1]

I had to sign one before a line dance course from Life Long Learning College, and did see one some other place too. I think everyone is supposed to sign, but it is not enforced each day. Kind of hit and miss.

Originally Posted by billethkid

etc?
I attended a meeting of a new club at Seabreeze rec center about the formation of a new club in TV. We were told the club had to sign waivers/release/etc for the Vccccdddd(I forget how many c's and d's!).
Today received an email that each and every participant that walks through the door and sits in a chair needs to sign one also.

I have been to many meetings of clubs or other groups of one kind or another and have never been required to sign any such thing before.

Has anybody else run across this issue?

btk

PS if true then you can add to the list of so called rarities...what one does not like about TV....their ever present paranoia with legal this or legal that to a fault...they are what I would call just in case litigious minded. They always want the ability to be held harmless or come back and bite ya!!!

one "C" two "D's" and they like to dot their "I's" and cross their "T's".

That's paranoia? Just asking.

[Figmo Bohica]

Release waivers are ajoke. A half-***ed lawyer can get it thrown out in about 10 seconds. I sign one each time I go to a competitive shoot. They are a joke, but it makes the club feel better so sign it, be careful and if something happens get a good lawyer and do your thing.

[billethkid]

no! That by itself does not constitute paranoia.

However, that added to several other experiences in dealing with TV relates to paranoia. They have more i's to dot and t's to cross than most other large corporations I have dealt with over the years.
They have way too much "just in case" legal mumbo jumbo. It was not that way as little as 5-7 years ago.

btk

[aln]

The guys in my card playing poker club had to sign one if they haven't signed one for some other function.

If some people are stupid enough to climb a fence to bother the buffalo, who knows what they'll do with a couch!

[bkcunningham1]

I don't know the official rules about the waivers. We became members of the Baby Boomers Club, paid our dues and attend meetings. We've never signed a waiver or a contract of any sort. We meet at Hacienda.

I'll tell you something that has stuck in my head though. We attended our first meeting of the Amenities Committee two months ago. When we first sat down, a man came and asked to see our Villages IDs. Like good soldiers, we pulled them out and he scanned one or two. Someone came and told him we didn't need our IDs to attend "this" meeting.

I didn't ask any questions. But the entire incident bothered me. What governmental meetings in TV do you need your ID to attend?

Sorry to highjack, BTK.

[zcaveman]

I signed a waiver for the Woodworkers club and to fam-fire at the Air Rifle club. Not a big deal to me.

[Bucco]

I think much of the signing waivers, checking id's, etc. was spawned by the use of The Villages Clubs, pools, etc by many MANY outsiders..folks who do not live here and just are enjoying EVERYTHING that is here. I see a bit of an overreaction because of that !

[Bryan]

I'm not sure about the "signing waivers" part - seems like a good lawyer (or even a bad lawyer) can beat them. The "checking IDs" is the job of the Rec Center personnel and (sometimes, I think) Community Watch. I do believe CW is supposed to spot check some pools and outdoor activities as is Rec Cen staff. Pretty much "hit or miss" enforcement from what I have seen. Also some events are "open to the public" like some of the shows at Savannah Center. Maybe a resident discount on ticket purchases to people with ID cards but basically open to anyone who has a ticket. Political "things" and many state or national "things" (i.e. a Veterans Fair) are held at Rec Centers but are open to the public. I think SHINE has to serve anyone who comes to them for help/advice even if they are not Village residents even though SHINE holds their sessions at Rec Centers. I think AARP Tax Aide may be a similar example also where non-Villagers can participate even though they work out of a rec center. That makes rule enforcement hard and excuses to get around the rules plentiful.

[bkcunningham1]

I absolutely agree and understand checking IDs to use the amenities in TV. My prior example of having our IDs checked was at an Amenities Committee meeting. A public meeting of a governing body of TV.

[Sail41]

They certainly require you to sign a release yearly to play tennis or pickleball or any of the sports offered. But, I also think any good lawyer could get around the form.