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TheWarriors 06-09-2023 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2224391)
Would it be less of a problem if the renters spoke English?

Most deed restrictions do not prohibit rentals of any length of time. Renting is not the type of business prohibited in the restrictions.

And cue the racism comment. It’s as predictable as the sunrise.

GizmoWhiskers 06-09-2023 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2224391)
Would it be less of a problem if the renters spoke English?

Most deed restrictions do not prohibit rentals of any length of time. Renting is not the type of business prohibited in the restrictions.

The deed restrictions for villas state NO businesses can be run out of the property. Rentals such as ABnB's rented out daily qualify as short term rentals (any rentals less than 6 months signed lease) which REQUIRE a business license with the State of FL (unless the owner is living in the house renting a room while residing with the renter.)

Residents should be fighting ABnB's being in the Villas. Not seeing any Villa owners (creating say a class action to) force T V to comply with the deed restriction enforcement. Ka Sa Ra Sa Ra...

Bill14564 06-09-2023 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2224780)
The deed restrictions for villas state NO businesses can be run out of the property. Rentals such as ABnB's rented out daily qualify as short term rentals (any rentals less than 6 months signed lease) which REQUIRE a business license with the State of FL (unless the owner is living in the house renting a room while residing with the renter.)

Residents should be fighting ABnB's being in the Villas. Not seeing any Villa owners (creating say a class action to) force T V to comply with the deed restriction enforcement. Ka Sa Ra Sa Ra...

Thank you. This is the first time someone has pointed out that the Villa restrictions are different than the other restrictions.

In that case, and even in the case of the non-Villas, anyone concerned about rentals should read the "Enforcement" section of the restrictions. The Developer is not obligated to enforce the deed restrictions. On the other hand, we have the right (and duty) to take the owner to court to force them to obey the restrictions.

banjobob 06-09-2023 06:40 AM

These fall under the internal deed restrictions that the Developer is to enforce , after 10 years living here that department is just a paycheck for one of the family members to enforce . I have never seen heard or gossiped about any enforcement from that department. Multiple pets , too many people in a home, adult and small children living here the list goes on. Can anyone cite an example of any enforcement .

Bill14564 06-09-2023 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2224801)
These fall under the internal deed restrictions that the Developer is to enforce , after 10 years living here that department is just a paycheck for one of the family members to enforce . I have never seen heard or gossiped about any enforcement from that department. Multiple pets , too many people in a home, adult and small children living here the list goes on. Can anyone cite an example of any enforcement .

Can you cite the wording that says the Developer is to enforce the deed restrictions? (HINT: I haven't found it in any of the restrictions I have read)

Bogie Shooter 06-09-2023 07:02 AM

From Village Community Development Districts under Community Standards

Q: What is an internal deed restriction and who can enforce them?
A: Deed restrictions are declarations between the Declarant (Developer named in your individual
Declaration of Restrictions) and the Property Owner. Who can enforce the internal deed
restrictions?
• Any property owner of any lot may seek to enforce internal restrictions against another
property owner.
• The Declarant may seek to enforce internal restrictions.
• Examples of internal deed restriction violations include, but are not limited to,
underage children living in the home or running a business from the home.

Babubhat 06-09-2023 07:14 AM

Google maps shows businesses listing their home address. That implies a business being run out of a home

Bill14564 06-09-2023 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2224804)
Can you cite the wording that says the Developer is to enforce the deed restrictions? (HINT: I haven't found it in any of the restrictions I have read)

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2224819)
From Village Community Development Districts under Community Standards

Q: What is an internal deed restriction and who can enforce them?
A: Deed restrictions are declarations between the Declarant (Developer named in your individual
Declaration of Restrictions) and the Property Owner. Who can enforce the internal deed
restrictions?
• Any property owner of any lot may seek to enforce internal restrictions against another
property owner.
• The Declarant may seek to enforce internal restrictions.
• Examples of internal deed restriction violations include, but are not limited to,
underage children living in the home or running a business from the home.

I was looking for a more legal document that uses the word "must" or "shall" rather than "may."

airstreamingypsy 06-09-2023 08:01 AM

Have any of them done anything wrong? Have they raped or murdered anyone? Broken into cars? Or is the fact that English isn't their first language the charge against them?

Normal 06-09-2023 08:37 AM

Must be able to…
 
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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2224857)
Have any of them done anything wrong? Have they raped or murdered anyone? Broken into cars? Or is the fact that English isn't their first language the charge against them?

Of course all US citizens must be able to read and write in English. It is a prerequisite for US citizen applicants.

Battlebasset 06-09-2023 08:50 AM

We have had this in our neighborhood, I suspect. As long as they aren't causing a nuisance, throwing wild parties, trash out front, etc., I don't worry too much about it. Pretty much my standard for any place I've lived. Live and let live.

It also wasn't right next to me. I figure if the permanent residents that live on either side of them don't care, I shouldn't either. However, if they approached me and said it was a problem, and asked for my assistance reporting them, keeping an eye on their activities, etc I would gladly help.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-09-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2224854)
I was looking for a more legal document that uses the word "must" or "shall" rather than "may."

There is no such document, because the Declarant (the Developer) is not OBLIGATED to enforce their deed restrictions. They MAY enforce them. They have granted themselves permission to enforce them, if they so choose. It's an option.

Just like you, the homeowner, are not -obligated- to seek enforcement if your neighbor has a lawn ornament. You MAY seek it. But you don't have to, if you personally don't object to it being there.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-09-2023 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2224880)
Of course all US citizens must be able to read and write in English. It is a prerequisite for US citizen applicants.

No, it's not. This is the rule:
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In all cases, the applicant must demonstrate the ability to speak English at the time of the naturalization examination, unless the applicant meets one of the age and time as resident exemptions of English or qualifies for a medical waiver.
So - it's not a prerequisite at all. They have to learn it, but they don't have to show up already knowing it. And there are exceptions, as specified above. A mute won't be required to know how to speak English. A blind person won't be required to know how to read English. A deaf person won't be required to know how to understand English.
A deaf blind mute won't be required to do any of the three.

If they're over 50 years old, they're exempt from the requirement.

There are other exemptions. But generally speaking, "it'll be on the test." It's something they have to learn as part of the process of becoming a citizen. It's not something they have to know when they get to the border.

Bill14564 06-09-2023 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2224880)
Of course all US citizens must be able to read and write in English. It is a prerequisite for US citizen applicants.

The ability to read and write English does not make it someone's first language. An immigrant may very well speak non-English in his home and in his neighborhood yet still know English well enough to pass the citizenship test.

That's even if the people in the villa are US citizens and not green-card holders or here on work visas.

gobuck827 06-09-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2224880)
Of course all US citizens must be able to read and write in English. It is a prerequisite for US citizen applicants.

Well, maybe not "all";

1. Age and Residency Exceptions to English

An applicant is exempt from the English language requirement but is still required to meet the civics requirement if:

The applicant is age 50 or older at the time of filing for naturalization and has lived as an LPR in the United States for at least 20 years; or

The applicant is age 55 or older at the time of filing for naturalization and has lived as an LPR in the United States for at least 15 years.

The applicant may take the civics test in his or her language of choice with the use of an interpreter.

2. Special Consideration for Civics Test

An applicant receives special consideration in the civics test if, at the time of filing the application, the applicant is 65 years of age or older and has been living in the United States for periods totaling at least 20 years subsequent to a lawful admission for permanent residence.[3] An applicant who qualifies for special consideration is administered specific test forms.

3. Medical Disability Exception to English and Civics

An applicant who cannot meet the English and civics requirements because of a medical disability may be exempt from the English requirement, the civics requirement, or both requirements.

Chapter 2 - English and Civics Testing | USCIS.


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