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Old 01-17-2014, 12:27 PM
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Sadly the genie is out of the bottle re: reputation and I'm sorry for that.
I was an expert witness in several counties in CAN (Child abuse and Neglect).
What we know about this case is...almost nothing.

We know the SO thought an arrest should be made, and possibly the SAO (state atty) was consulted with evidence prior to the arrest given recognizance of the alleged abuser.

That said, I've seen, as have we all, every sort of manipulation of so-called truth to the point that I am so cynical that my motto is "Justice is a joke and the truth is a lie"...(not counting The Truth and the Way)
I wish it were otherwise, but I think one is just as likely to be falsely accused as to get away with murder. Happens all the time.
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Old 01-17-2014, 02:02 PM
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A lot of sympathy for the Fire Chief ( Adult ) grown man. More sympathy for the Chiefs family...how about the " Alleged " Victim. Where is the feeling for him.
What goes on behind closed doors, lot's of movies, TV shows, and it is usually " He " was the nicest, kind, gentile, would do anything for you, the " Pillar " of the community, and then the shoe drops along with the jaws. Held without bond should tell you there is more to this. Skip the feel sorry for the Chief until we get the scoop. We'll see how long " Alleged " last's. Keep in mind...Grown Man vs Child !! " We Were Tussling Pretty Good ", so said the arrested person, and extent of injuries to the victim came from more than a " Tussle " . Big Brave Adult , not so big and brave sitting in a jail cell.
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Wow! Fire Chief has a temper and this time it has got him in some real trouble. Teenage kids, especially boys, can make you "lose it"----question, did the chief "cross the line"? From the newspaper account it appears he could have.

The abuse laws are so written that it is almost impossible to discipline your children these days. That said, there are good reasons for them and there is a difference between discipline and "beating" your kids. No matter what the kid said or did----there was a better way to handle the situation.
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A lot of sympathy for the Fire Chief ( Adult ) grown man. More sympathy for the Chiefs family...how about the " Alleged " Victim. Where is the feeling for him.
What goes on behind closed doors, lot's of movies, TV shows, and it is usually " He " was the nicest, kind, gentile, would do anything for you, the " Pillar " of the community, and then the shoe drops along with the jaws. Held without bond should tell you there is more to this. Skip the feel sorry for the Chief until we get the scoop. We'll see how long " Alleged " last's. Keep in mind...Grown Man vs Child !! " We Were Tussling Pretty Good ", so said the arrested person, and extent of injuries to the victim came from more than a " Tussle " . Big Brave Adult , not so big and brave sitting in a jail cell.
Agree totally with you... it's unbelievable (no, believable, ;-) that when a person who has a "Title" before their name is arrested w/charges like this, some ppl will always say the same sentiments re;what I've been reading here on TOTV. If it was a so-called "low-life" they'd be automatically labelled guilty. I do not "feel sorry' for anyone committing any crime against any person. The red flag to me was when I read in the papers "held without bond"... that tells me that the dude is dangerous....
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I had a lawyer friend who slapped his daughter for missbehaving and she called 911. He now has a felony conviction on his record and is on probation.
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The red flag to me was when I read in the papers "held without bond"... that tells me that the dude is dangerous....
According to The Villages news, he was released this afternoon on $5,000 bond. The original news article probably should have said "held pending a bond hearing", not "held without bond".
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If it is true that this guy has a bad temper than one has to wonder how he made it all the way to Fire Chief. If it is true then he ought not to be leading people given the fact that his failure to control his temper created such a breach in sound judgment Could you imagine a cop with a temper like that

The chief's action may be a basis for a lawsuit which isn't going to be a good thing for any of us
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If it is true that this guy has a bad temper than one has to wonder how he made it all the way to Fire Chief. If it is true then he ought not to be leading people given the fact that his failure to control his temper created such a breach in sound judgment Could you imagine a cop with a temper like that

The chief's action may be a basis for a lawsuit which isn't going to be a good thing for any of us
Yes, he shot a guy over texting just this week!
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I had a lawyer friend who slapped his daughter for missbehaving and she called 911. He now has a felony conviction on his record and is on probation.
I don't have a problem with that.....
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I don't have a problem with that.....
I sure don't either. Some of the kids I see need more than a good
slap. Maybe a good size 12 boot in the......well, you get the idea.
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So what!!!! These days you can't discipline your children without someone threatening you with child abuse.... You will note that the son didn't do the reporting of the incident. That probably says it all.... Give the guy a break. Regardless of the whole story, it's embarrasing enough for the family, give it a break folks......
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How old was 'this child' again? I must have missed the child's age somehow.
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So what!!!! These days you can't discipline your children without someone threatening you with child abuse.... You will note that the son didn't do the reporting of the incident. That probably says it all.... Give the guy a break. Regardless of the whole story, it's embarrasing enough for the family, give it a break folks......
The "child" was probably afraid to say anything; just as abused wives are afraid to speak out.
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I sure don't either. Some of the kids I see need more than a good
slap. Maybe a good size 12 boot in the......well, you get the idea.
You misunderstood what I said. I don't have a problem with the fact the father who "slapped" his daughter is now a felon. I'm sure there is a lot more to that story.
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The "child" was probably afraid to say anything; just as abused wives are afraid to speak out.
That's it right there Vernster, the child and/or abused wives are afraid to say anything...so the abuse goes on & on until someone gets killed or so mentally broken down that they either walk thru life badly wounded in their mind or commit suicide. I used to call the police all the time when I was a kid on my father for beating my mother and my siblings, so I'm speaking from personal experience here. I hope that this incident can be resolved in a family court and counselling for the whole family.
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