[Michael G.]

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[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...f5b23bf6&ei=31

I wish there would be more focus on what really makes the roads unsafe, cell phones.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

I wish there would be more focus on what really makes the roads unsafe, cell phones.

Are cellphones what really make the roads unsafe or is it speeding? Or drinking? Or driving too slow? Or poorly marked roads? Or not obeying stop signs and stop lights? Or Full Self-Driving that really isn’t? Or whatever becomes the next outrage of the week?

Maybe the problem is we are too quick to lock on to generalizations.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Are cellphones what really make the roads unsafe or is it speeding? Or drinking? Or driving too slow? Or poorly marked roads? Or not obeying stop signs and stop lights? Or Full Self-Driving that really isn’t? Or whatever becomes the next outrage of the week?

Maybe the problem is we are too quick to lock on to generalizations.

It broke my heart to sell my motorcycle because of cell phones. After riding a bike for over 45 years (and never dropping a bike), I lost the enjoyment of riding about the last 10 years after almost getting into several accidents by complete idiots that thought whatever was on their phone was more important than the lives of the other people on the road. It just wasn’t fun anymore having to assume everyone else on the road was looking at their phone instead of paying attention to driving. Where is the outrage? There is mothers against drinking and driving to protect their kids, how about mothers against using a phone and driving to protect their parents?

[Tom52]

On another forum this same topic came up and it was later determined to be fake news. So, nothing to worry about.

[Bay Kid]

I have always been a defensive driver with a little offense built in.

[Kelevision]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

I wish there would be more focus on what really makes the roads unsafe, cell phones.

In 2009 I was living in CA and they made it illegal to text, hold a phone and talk while driving. They pulled people over all the time and I’ve never used my phone while driving since. I was shocked when I moved back to FL in 2021 and you were allowed to use your phone here while driving. I assumed every state had that law. I mean 2009 that went into effect. At least finally, in 2025 Florida decided made a law.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

At least finally, in 2025 Florida decided made a law.

Its a third world country down here

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

It broke my heart to sell my motorcycle because of cell phones. After riding a bike for over 45 years (and never dropping a bike), I lost the enjoyment of riding about the last 10 years after almost getting into several accidents by complete idiots that thought whatever was on their phone was more important than the lives of the other people on the road. It just wasn’t fun anymore having to assume everyone else on the road was looking at their phone instead of paying attention to driving. Where is the outrage? There is mothers against drinking and driving to protect their kids, how about mothers against using a phone and driving to protect their parents?

I hear ya.

I had my bike shipped here from Minnesota a couple of months after we moved here. After about a month of riding here, I sold it. I had more close calls in that month riding here than I had in the previous ten years of riding back home.

Cell phones were one of the reasons, though I had an anti-cell phone device on the bike: an aftermarket horn that that sounded like a locomotive horn, and at 117 dB it was guaranteed to get anyone's attention. The few times I used it back home I think a couple of texters got whiplash when I sounded it--once, with a younger woman who was coasting through a red light with her head buried in her phone. I used it sparingly (not sure of it's legality), but it surely did work.

That was just one of the problems though: a biggie was that in TV particularly I was just not being seen, even by people not using their cell phones. Handle-able on a straight road at speed, but in a crowded roundabout--no, thank you. I had people run stop signs on me, try to pass w/an oncoming car far too close for comfort, etc. It is dangerous enough around here in a car. On a motorcycle, it is far too risky.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

It broke my heart to sell my motorcycle because of cell phones. After riding a bike for over 45 years (and never dropping a bike), I lost the enjoyment of riding about the last 10 years after almost getting into several accidents by complete idiots that thought whatever was on their phone was more important than the lives of the other people on the road. It just wasn’t fun anymore having to assume everyone else on the road was looking at their phone instead of paying attention to driving. Where is the outrage? There is mothers against drinking and driving to protect their kids, how about mothers against using a phone and driving to protect their parents?

Sold my Harley last year.
I jus knew "the other guy" was going to kill me some day.
Too many clueless drivers around here.

[vintageogauge]

This may seem a little silly as I never owned a motor cycle and would never allow my kids to own one either. However I used to ride my bike around the interior streets daily and more days than not I had to either stop or get off of the road because of drivers coming out of their driveways while talking or texting. I came within inches of being hit when a woman turned left on the wrong side of the road onto the street I was on, I dropped my bike while trying to get out of the way and she never even stopped. I have since sold the bike and now walk.

[Michael G.]

Some years ago, I read where cell phones by-law would never officially be illegal while driving, here's why.

There's to many other distractions already added to information screens that, apparently, are legal like adjusting radios, heaters, controlling any on/off buttons, you get the idea.

I drive a 2015 with minimal safety features.
Honestly, if I had to rent any 2015 vehicle with all the up dated features,
God help me.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

I was watching an erratic small truck driver ahead of me recently.
I was next to him at the stop light, but couldn't see into the truck to see what he was doing.
After the light turned green, I was watching him in the rear view mirror, and watched him drive off the road, go through a building driveway, run over a small tree, and then jerk his wheel back to the now dual lane road from a four lane road, and almost overcorrect into a head one collision.

Had there been a car trying to exit the driveway, he would have seriously injured the driver, or even kill the driver. .

[MX rider]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Sold my Harley last year.
I jus knew "the other guy" was going to kill me some day.
Too many clueless drivers around here.

I'm keeping my Harley......for now. We love to ride and have fun getting outside the bubble to explore new places.

But you're both correct, it's a bit sketchy out there. I ride very defensively and assume everyone is going to pull out in front of me. Not fun, but you have to ride that way.

Since we moved here I've never seen so many bad/distracted drivers, especially in TV. But we pretty much knew that would be the case when we made the move.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Sold my Harley last year.
I jus knew "the other guy" was going to kill me some day.
Too many clueless drivers around here.

Uaaa, that would be everywhere….