The Villages Construction Update #147 - Meggison & 470 the Mystery Starts to Unfold

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Old 08-06-2024, 05:52 PM
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Thanks for the updates Don! Can't wait to see how this evolves.
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This is property owned by The Villages, they also filed the permits for the work going on. I’m digging for the information on what is going in, right now none of my sources are talking and aren’t event willing to drop a hint.

Here’s a screen shot from Landglide.
It will be interesting to see what FDOT comes up with for the Turnpike/470 interchange widening.

Well the update/replace the current or do something new?
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As far as a tunnel goes, they had the same challenge at Meggison and Warm Springs when they were widening Warm Springs. I have little doubt they will be doing the same thing here, because remember, they have a contract to widen 470 from Chandler to the Sumter County line.
And there are multiple tunnels under Central Parkway AKA 470.
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Old 08-07-2024, 05:16 PM
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Do you really think they will spend the money to build a tunnel to access that little landlocked parcel of land?

There doesn't appear to be any other Village property adjacent to that parcel...
I think they own more than that little plot. I think they own a large area going south along the turnpike.

I dont think the developer buys small plots - not worth it for them.
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Old 08-07-2024, 05:30 PM
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I think they own more than that little plot. I think they own a large area going south along the turnpike.

I dont think the developer buys small plots - not worth it for them.
They certainly do. Also, depending on what happens with the turnpike expansion and potential new bridge, this could all connect to Eastport area.

JMintzer seems to be a pessimist even with the facts in the thread.

It's okay to admit you were mistaken JM...

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Again, dark green=Villages owned. The part being cleared is a tiny bit, as you mentioned. There's tons more land.

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Do you really think they will spend the money to build a tunnel to access that little landlocked parcel of land?

There doesn't appear to be any other Village property adjacent to that parcel...
Given 470 was completely rerouted in Sumter County, what makes you think 470 will be where it is today?
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Old 08-07-2024, 06:01 PM
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They certainly do. Also, depending on what happens with the turnpike expansion and potential new bridge, this could all connect to Eastport area.

JMintzer seems to be a pessimist even with the facts in the thread.

It's okay to admit you were mistaken JM...

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Again, dark green=Villages owned. The part being cleared is a tiny bit, as you mentioned. There's tons more land.

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They’ll go under 470, then across the turnpike further south, around the middle of the picture
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They’ll go under 470, then across the turnpike further south, around the middle of the picture
That seems likely to me also.

Maybe also with a new Turnpike/470 interchange south of the current.
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That sounds reasonable. Not great for me in Lake Denham as a further south bridge won’t make Eastport closer than it is now over Bexley. But it’s not that bad of a ride at 20 minutes by cart so I’ll survive.
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The adjacent property is also owned by a Villages shell company, note the address in the attached picture. This is all a part of the 550 acres that was purchased 2 or 3 years ago. Just the other side of the Turnpike is the Secret Promise property that was purchased last year by the Villages developer. Linking these properties is essential for the future growth, and while nothing has been announced to-date about connectivity, there are currently 4 possible options:
- a multimodal lane similar to the Bexley Bridge when 470 is widened
- tunnels under 470 to connect the southern properties in question, doing this will be easy in the 470 widening just like it was done at Warm Springs
- another Water Lilly type bride connecting the subject property with the Secret Promise property
- a multimodal path under the Turnpike that parallels SR48 under the Turnpike (no digging required!)

In my opinion, at least 3 of the 4 of these are likely to happen. The first 2 are most probable and likely near term (2-3 years), and the latter 2, depending on the growth pattern they have planned for south of 470/Central Parkway, farther down the timeline perhaps 7-10 years.
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