Not surprised. We were told that Brownwood would be the center of TV a couple of years ago.

I have no ides what you are talking about. I have not responded to a post by you on this subject.

For the record to EVERYONE my original post is simply a cut and past from a media source we are not allowed to mention on this site. Not one word was mine nor did it hint at any opinion I may have about growth or the developer. Great sport watching you all do the whisper at the front of the line and watch the pass it on game.

.. or the Everglades :D

Nope
 

Nope won't stop until it reaches Miami and then runs out of land mass beyond the keys and poles to build on the water unless by then they can build in the sky then they just keep going going and we'll all be gone gone!!!

Yes, we are already at #5.

So, what's this all about? Progress? Does anyone have a problem driving a golf cart from TV to Mickey's house???

When I moved here in 2008 I was told by realtor that I better buy now because they will stop at 466A........

Depends on who is counting but I believe TV is around 140000 today. That is not a census number but more likely the number of houses multiplied by two occupants per.

Now below is 2020 census numbers whatever is counted in them:

Jacksonville (929,647)
Miami (478,251)
Tampa (404,636)
Orlando (290,520)
St. Petersburg (267,121)
Hialeah (230,135)
Port St. Lucie (215,922)
Cape Coral (204,549)
Tallahassee (197,974)
Fort Lauderdale (183,109)

My guess is it evokes a fear that the Villages will eventually break up into more manageable pieces, each with their own amenities and governance.

I was told that too.

So, what's this all about? Progress? Does anyone have a problem driving a golf cart from TV to Mickey's house???

Most Country Clubs here are just a Restaurant attached to a pro shop. No reason not to share space and personell with recreational facilities,

There is more open land per rooftop south of 44 compared to North.

As long as you dont mind taking a day to do so

Surprise:a040:

Operative words: (....State Road 44 is NOW seen). How it is seen next week, or next year may be different.

If you want to do a little map-reading, you’ll discover that from CR 42 on the north to the current residential and commercial areas being developed, The Villages is already longer from north to south than the distance from the southern border of Evanston IL to the northern border of Dixmoor IL.

For those of you unfamiliar with the geography that means that The Villages is already longer from a north to south than the City of Chicago!

If I may ask, who made this promise, and was it in writing?

I'm more curious about what would happen if the next generation of heirs to the Morse family throne decides he doesn't want to deal with the Villages at all, and just gives it up.

We early boomers have kids in their 50's already, there will be plenty of buyers, maybe not 7 new homes per day but they will still sell a lot of them.

You do realize they are building more golf courses south of 44, right?

By the time that would happen and effect us we will be long gone and our children can deal with it.

More likely the Morse family understands what they have going and hires professional managers and goes on an around the world cruise.

No one “promised” you or anyone else anything !!

No, not really. I even spotted TV a mile or two.

Doesn't take 6 hours to drive the length of TV though.

Actually is over ten miles.

https://i.imgur.com/L7uT9HS.png

Have you seen the way some people around here drive their carts?

At some point expect to see tents pitched near the cart paths as people cannot make it in one day

Or something this :1rotfl:

Has anyone noticed the construction update listed a couple times per week in the Daily Sun now separates construction projects between those in the north and south, and projects such as the Woodworking Shop in Brownwood are classified as northern projects?

If the doom and gloom predictions listed in the Daily Sun articles about the negative effects of slow economic growth are true, when addressing the potential effects of increased impact fees, I sure wish they would start tapping the breaks on the current growth rate so that the eventual stoppage in growth (cheap land is not infinite) can be delayed for many more years. The way I see it is that the growth is a game of musical chairs, and when the growth (music) suddenly stops, there won’t be enough chairs to go around. So why not slow down the music so everyone can enjoy it for as long as possible.

I think the reasons for the rapid growth, seemingly as quickly as possible, are primarily twofold. Profits as soon as possible are better than spread out over time, and the end of the wave of retiring baby boomers with fat juicy savings accounts, pensions, and 401k’s is on the horizon. What worries me is when all of us baby boomers pass on, there won’t be nearly the demand from future generations to support a place the size of the Villages. Oh well, I guess that will be our kids problem?

Build it and they will come
 

The Baby Boomers are not the largest anymore, the Millennials are. God help us, but they are starting to grow up and even play golf. Keep the faith.


Resident population in the United States in 2019, by generation (in millions)

Population in millions
The Baby Boomer Generation (born 1946-1964) 69.56
Generation X (born 1965-1980) 65.17
The Millennial Generation (born 1981-1996) 72.12
Generation Z (born 1997-2012) 67.17

But when will they start saving for retirement? They won't have pensions and it's anybody's best guess if Social Security will even be solvent by the time they retire. The GIG economy is not what made our generation able to buy homes in the Villages.

On top of that, the poor millennials are the ones that are going to eventually have to pay the piper for the unsustainable debt our government has become addicted to.

Mass Boomer Retirement(TM) will end in the next 5 years. TV will probably expand past Center Hill. Hopefully strip clubs and casinos in town squares.

Most of the present population will be dead and gone by then.
All that worrying for nothing!:shrug:

Dead and gone? Not just dead?:icon_wink:

I thought Goldwing Nut had said that the 4th square WASN'T the Sawgrass Grove area, but would be built later further south. I thought there was like a 20-30 year build out plan.

The 4th square will be the Lifestyle Center The lake in that map is a mile long so it will be a large facility.

A differant age
 

I think the "pension" that was common place is going by the wayside, most companies are moving to 401k's less expensive for them and more secure for the employee. But you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink it, I think companies are enrolling employees and its up to them to stop.

There is plenty making money in the Gig economy ie Bitcoin, Game Stop etc. I agree that the millennials and them some will be paying for the debt.

Always said we'd be driving to Disney one day on our carts. They will throw up a small hotel/motel/Holiday inn (remember?:icon_wink:) and a gas and charging station about 1/2 way. Good times....

Expansion
 

True or not? I have heard Brooksville is at the proposed southern border

Ref post #17

Developer could of never expanded across 441 if?

Not the developers that cause the expansion, it’s the locals that sale the land. If natives don’t want development don’t sell the land. But, we know what happens when gramps/grandma dies, the kids sell out.