[Arctic Fox]

Just a reminder that, since all good pedestrians will be obeying the law by facing traffic, they may be coming towards you in places that you are not expecting them:

1) tunnels
2) roundabouts
3) bridges

so - pedestrians, cyclists and golfcarters - please exercise extreme caution so we all stay safe.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

Just a reminder that, since all good pedestrians will be obeying the law by facing traffic, they may be coming towards you in places that you are not expecting them:

1) tunnels
2) roundabouts
3) bridges

so - pedestrians, cyclists and golfcarters - please exercise extreme caution so we all stay safe.

You do realize that that post is going to open up the same can of worms as the same topic last week?

[Topspinmo]

Tunnels- ignore stop or yield signs I’m more important and in hurry. Roundabouts -when entering roundabout I don’t have to yield to traffic on my left in small MMP roundabout, I also don’t have stop or yield coming out of tunnel entering round about. Walkers- I can walk down middle of path, two or three abreast cause we are walking here, I don’t have walk on edge facing traffic cause after all MMP is not road and I don’t have to follow road rules cause I am on public path. ( note what is road? a path to get from one place to another). So basically it’s free for all on MMP cause don’t have follow ANY rules of road.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

Just a reminder that, since all good pedestrians will be obeying the law by facing traffic, they may be coming towards you in places that you are not expecting them:

1) tunnels
2) roundabouts
3) bridges

so - pedestrians, cyclists and golfcarters - please exercise extreme caution so we all stay safe.

Pedestrians are not allowed in RABs as far as I know.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Pedestrians are not allowed in RABs as far as I know.

I believe they mean MMP RABs. There is one near Magnolia, one near Everglades, and at both ends of the Water Lilly bridge.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I walk facing traffic on MMPs but it feels wrong to me. As a pedestrian, it feels more like an oversized sidewalk that allows golf carts. Of course when I'm in my golf cart, driving on the right side feels totally legit, and the MMP feels exactly like an MMP.

When I'm riding my bike, I keep to the right. If a golf cart is behind me, approaching the back of my bike and about to pass me, and I'm about to approach a pedestrian who is facing me and coming toward the front of my bike, WHO yields for whom? Do I have to veer over to the grass? Does the pedestrian need to step off into the grass? Does the golf cart have to NOT pass me and just wait for me to pass the pedestrian? Do we signal to each other which of us is going to go in which order? Or do we all just shut our eyes and hope for the best?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I walk facing traffic on MMPs but it feels wrong to me. As a pedestrian, it feels more like an oversized sidewalk that allows golf carts. Of course when I'm in my golf cart, driving on the right side feels totally legit, and the MMP feels exactly like an MMP.

When I'm riding my bike, I keep to the right. If a golf cart is behind me, approaching the back of my bike and about to pass me, and I'm about to approach a pedestrian who is facing me and coming toward the front of my bike, WHO yields for whom? Do I have to veer over to the grass? Does the pedestrian need to step off into the grass? Does the golf cart have to NOT pass me and just wait for me to pass the pedestrian? Do we signal to each other which of us is going to go in which order? Or do we all just shut our eyes and hope for the best?

I just stop in my golf cart when all three going to meet at same spot and make them walk around me on my right if their that close? Most don’t want get grass on their precious shoes and I don’t want get grass on my precious golf cart tires. As others have demanded there NO rules on MMP cause it private path’/road/MMP so do what want.

diamond lanes have specific rules on how to walk on roads. And yes diamond lanes lane of a road.

[CarlR33]

I see at least one golf cart near miss every time I go out in mine. Last night it was two near misses with one guy in the same cart in front of us casually driving the retro cart with his right arm on the top of the seat came to a corner and decided to do something in the cart and nearly hit another cart head on. Same cart had retro tail lights that looked “cool” but I thought they were not working since they were dark, I could see no brake lights when he stopped in front of me and no turn signals when turning. Yes, I advised him and I was told “they worked but maybe just hard to see.” Pedestrians are the least of my issues.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I walk facing traffic on MMPs but it feels wrong to me. As a pedestrian, it feels more like an oversized sidewalk that allows golf carts. Of course when I'm in my golf cart, driving on the right side feels totally legit, and the MMP feels exactly like an MMP.

When I'm riding my bike, I keep to the right. If a golf cart is behind me, approaching the back of my bike and about to pass me, and I'm about to approach a pedestrian who is facing me and coming toward the front of my bike, WHO yields for whom? Do I have to veer over to the grass? Does the pedestrian need to step off into the grass? Does the golf cart have to NOT pass me and just wait for me to pass the pedestrian? Do we signal to each other which of us is going to go in which order? Or do we all just shut our eyes and hope for the best?

Leaving aside egos and equipment sizes, I believe what should happen is:
- Cart has enough situational awareness to see what is happening and waits to pass the bicycle.
- Bicycle moves towards the center of the MMP (their left) to give space to the Ped. No need for the bicycle to cross the center line unless there is insufficient space to avoid hitting the Ped
- Pedestrian moves to the edge of the path (their left) to give space to the bicycle. No need to step into the grass

There may be another cart coming from behind the Ped which is why the Ped needs to make some room for the bicycle.

The bicycle may need to cross into the other lane which is why the cart should wait for the bicycle to get beyond the Ped

While this is the logical, courteous, and safe way to manage the situation, it is highly unlikely that all three will actually cooperate.

[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

Just a reminder that, since all good pedestrians will be obeying the law by facing traffic,

Last I checked there is no Florida law that states you have to face traffic. As for the rest I can definitely appreciate all the sarcasm in the posts! (by the way you left out the drinking part LOL)

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by midiwiz

Last I checked there is no Florida law that states you have to face traffic. As for the rest I can definitely appreciate all the sarcasm in the posts! (by the way you left out the drinking part LOL)

In that case, let me make everyone "aware":

Florida Statute 316.130 sec 4:

(4) "Where sidewalks are not provided, any pedestrian walking along and upon a highway shall, when practicable, walk only on the shoulder on the left side of the roadway in relation to the pedestrian’s direction of travel, facing traffic which may approach from the opposite direction."

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by topspinmo

tunnels- ignore stop or yield signs i’m more important and in hurry. Roundabouts -when entering roundabout i don’t have to yield to traffic on my left in small mmp roundabout, i also don’t have stop or yield coming out of tunnel entering round about. Walkers- i can walk down middle of path, two or three abreast cause we are walking here, i don’t have walk on edge facing traffic cause after all mmp is not road and i don’t have to follow road rules cause i am on public path. ( note what is road? A path to get from one place to another). So basically it’s free for all on mmp cause don’t have follow any rules of road.

bottom's up

[Rocksnap]

A little common sense go a long way. No need to reinvent the wheel.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

A little common sense go a long way. No need to reinvent the wheel.

Not on MMP it don’t…

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Leaving aside egos and equipment sizes, I believe what should happen is:
- Cart has enough situational awareness to see what is happening and waits to pass the bicycle.
- Bicycle moves towards the center of the MMP (their left) to give space to the Ped. No need for the bicycle to cross the center line unless there is insufficient space to avoid hitting the Ped
- Pedestrian moves to the edge of the path (their left) to give space to the bicycle. No need to step into the grass

There may be another cart coming from behind the Ped which is why the Ped needs to make some room for the bicycle.

The bicycle may need to cross into the other lane which is why the cart should wait for the bicycle to get beyond the Ped

While this is the logical, courteous, and safe way to manage the situation, it is highly unlikely that all three will actually cooperate.

Some Walkers (two or more abreast) have awful big ego to leave aside. They rarely if ever move over to left falling into single file.