[DonnaNi4os]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

I hate to say this, but if you can’t see the gate arms, after properly coming to a stop regardless of the gate positioning, then you probably shouldn’t be driving.

You read my mind

[Two Bills]

The main problem with much of society today, is that if anything goes wrong, it's someone else's fault.
Personal responsibility went out the window years ago.
Morgan and Morgan et al, are waiting for your call!

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by mminternet

Just curious if others have difficulty seeing the gate arms at the main entrances? At the main entrance near our home, the arm/bar will stay up for an extended amount of time and then at other times they drop between each car. Regardless, they can be difficult to see due to rain/sun/etc... Why are there not flashing lights on these? The red paint/tape isn't doing much for visibility. I imagine solar powered lights could be added without a lot of expense to the gate arm. I've seen several broken arms so it must be an issue... Is there a department in the Villages where a person could voice their concerns? Thanks.

Welcome to TOTV. The search button is your friend. This has been rehashed many times. Slow down is the best answer. The Pinellas Plaza gate was missing yesterday, but I still slowed down and stopped out of habit. If you can't see all the infrastructure that entails the gates, maybe it's time to turn in that license.

[chuckpedrey]

I have been to several gated communities that have very easy to see gate arms. I have sent videos to The Villages showing the various styles of gate arms that are far superior to ours. It is rumored that the fine for knocking down a gate arm is upwards of $850. Maybe there is an income stream to The Villages that has been kept a secret.

[Captainpd]

Originally Posted by thelegges

With sun at certain times gates are hard to see, no matter what vision you have. Plus with as many cataract surgeries done weekly, many have 20/20.

But within 1 day of visiting TV, every driver get the big picture if they can or cannot see a gate. There is a gate crossing or exit at each village, with a gate house, or a big sign that says resident entry.

Cataract surgery DOESN'T GIVE YOU 20/20 VISION. GEEZZ

[Captainpd]

Originally Posted by chuckpedrey

I have been to several gated communities that have very easy to see gate arms. I have sent videos to The Villages showing the various styles of gate arms that are far superior to ours. It is rumored that the fine for knocking down a gate arm is upwards of $850. Maybe there is an income stream to The Villages that has been kept a secret.

A rumor answer. How about posting your source for this "rumor"

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Captainpd

Cataract surgery DOESN'T GIVE YOU 20/20 VISION. GEEZZ

Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. 30-50% of patients post ECCE with IOL need glasses to achieve 20/20

(GEEZZ)

[Mulliganguy]

Too many blind intersections throughout the Villages due to tall shrubbery and other plant life planted right in the line of sight of gates and intersecting roads. I think a plan is in place to help speed up attrition 😜

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Mulliganguy

Too many blind intersections throughout the Villages due to tall shrubbery and other plant life planted right in the line of sight of gates and intersecting roads. I think a plan is in place to help speed up attrition 😜

Please give one, JUST ONE example of a gate blocked by tall shrubbery. Remember, the discussion is about cars hitting the gate arms because the driver didn't see them, not those gates that have MMP crossings that have some plantings that obscure the oncoming traffic---especially when the gate arm is missing.

[Maker]

It's an unsafe design to have walls, shrubs, rocks, etc that are placed in a way to block the line of sight between cars and golf carts at any crossing. Are we just lucky Morgan and Morgan have not sued the villages yet for an injury accident where one party states "I couldn't see the car because TV put unsafe obstructions on the public roadway".
Why is that allowed to exist?
Why do golf carts have to inch into the roadway to see if a car is coming? Is that safe?
I do not trust crossing based upon seeing a gate arm down because the time a truck that plowed right through it without stopping.

[Fltpkr]

Originally Posted by mminternet

Just curious if others have difficulty seeing the gate arms at the main entrances? At the main entrance near our home, the arm/bar will stay up for an extended amount of time and then at other times they drop between each car. Regardless, they can be difficult to see due to rain/sun/etc... Why are there not flashing lights on these? The red paint/tape isn't doing much for visibility. I imagine solar powered lights could be added without a lot of expense to the gate arm. I've seen several broken arms so it must be an issue... Is there a department in the Villages where a person could voice their concerns? Thanks.

Yes, we do. The gates are much harder for us to see in the bright daylight. At night, the reflection from our headlights makes them very visible to us.

[wolfie]

A lot of other communities use flashing LED lights that are powered by Solar. This has been brought up numerous times for whatever reason the powers to be refuse to do it. Maybe the company that repair the arms have a strong connection in The Villages who knows but yes still hard to see at certain times a day even if you have 2020.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Fltpkr

Yes, we do. The gates are much harder for us to see in the bright daylight. At night, the reflection from our headlights makes them very visible to us.

And what does that tell you?????

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Fltpkr

Yes, we do. The gates are much harder for us to see in the bright daylight. At night, the reflection from our headlights makes them very visible to us.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And what does that tell you?????

It tells me that the driver needs to come to a full stop in front of every gate and not proceed until they have clearly identified that the gate is not blocking their path. If they can’t identify that, well, then they shouldn’t be driving.

Take personal responsibility and stop the excuses, bright light, cataract surgery, round gate arms, Bla Bla Bla.

[Fastskiguy]

Originally Posted by Maker

It's an unsafe design to have walls, shrubs, rocks, etc that are placed in a way to block the line of sight between cars and golf carts at any crossing. Are we just lucky Morgan and Morgan have not sued the villages yet for an injury accident where one party states "I couldn't see the car because TV put unsafe obstructions on the public roadway".
Why is that allowed to exist?
Why do golf carts have to inch into the roadway to see if a car is coming? Is that safe?
I do not trust crossing based upon seeing a gate arm down because the time a truck that plowed right through it without stopping.

My theory is that "stuff" is placed to slow traffic...so that you actually must come to a stop and take a second to look both ways before blasting thru a gate or intersection. "Traffic Calming Shrubbery" if you will<-I made that term up.

Seems like something to slow down the maniacs is a good idea. I could be wrong though!

Joe