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Is the solar heater really necessary in TV? I really don't want that on my roof. We will get a gas heater for spa/pool. Meeting with T&D next week in our yard for S&G's. Thanks for your input!
There are some who don’t recommend gas heaters. We choose electric over gas, and are not adding solar until our roof would need replacing.

We met with 3 companies and didn’t go with T&D.
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There are some who don’t recommend gas heaters. We choose electric over gas, and are not adding solar until our roof would need replacing.

We met with 3 companies and didn’t go with T&D.
Thank you! We will eventually look beyond T&D but want their input to start. I'm well versed in building pools in the Mid-Atlantic but no experience in the Sunshine State. I will be in heaven now that I can access natural gas piped into my heaters if I want to. My concern with solar is overhead and overheating. Don't want all that on my roof materials and mostly don't want to overheat the pool. To me about 86 is getting too warm in the pool and the gentleman said solar had his pool up in the 90's.....scared me lol
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They won't do that here, nor should they. Not to mention the fact that water from a hydrant isn't "free", so why would a homeowner get a free pool fill?

Regarding the cost, nowadays people spend $100k plus on a pool. Hardly will anyone balk at spending another $200-$300 for a one time fill.

I've not heard of anyone here getting pool water delivered by tanker, only by garden hose. I know that's what we did as it was the most cost effective way. Fill time for 15k gallons was about 16 hours, give or take
I agree. That’s how we filled ours.
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Thank you! We will eventually look beyond T&D but want their input to start. I'm well versed in building pools in the Mid-Atlantic but no experience in the Sunshine State. I will be in heaven now that I can access natural gas piped into my heaters if I want to. My concern with solar is overhead and overheating. Don't want all that on my roof materials and mostly don't want to overheat the pool. To me about 86 is getting too warm in the pool and the gentleman said solar had his pool up in the 90's.....scared me lol
My solar has a temperature control.
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Is the solar heater really necessary in TV? I really don't want that on my roof. We will get a gas heater for spa/pool. Meeting with T&D next week in our yard for S&G's. Thanks for your input!
Gas is not an option where we live. Our friends have gas and it heats the water very quickly, but costs $$$. We have solar, a heat pump, and a cover. Between the three, we can use the pool during the coldest months no problem. The heat pump is slow, but works fine and doesn’t cost much to run. The key is keeping the pool covered when not in use to retain the heat. The solar is great during the shoulder seasons. Don’t use T and D for solar, use Jacks Solar.
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I have a question about filling our pool....We live in Marsh Bend and are putting a pool in. Can we fill the pool from the hose or would this be non potable water? Thanks in advance for info.
We built a pool in Marsh Bend and had to fill it with hose bib water.
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The pool install company did not have any advice (no offense)? Not sure about the villages but some municipalities charge a sewer charge per gallon of water used which could be double the water charge. So as others have said it maybe cheaper for a company to fill it so you may have to do some cost research based on the gallons needed.
For those who have a pool it’s definitely NOT cheaper in TV to truck in water. Lowest quote $500.

Our water bill from garden hose was $128 give or take a few dollars deducting the normal inside water use.
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Thank you! We will eventually look beyond T&D but want their input to start. I'm well versed in building pools in the Mid-Atlantic but no experience in the Sunshine State. I will be in heaven now that I can access natural gas piped into my heaters if I want to. My concern with solar is overhead and overheating. Don't want all that on my roof materials and mostly don't want to overheat the pool. To me about 86 is getting too warm in the pool and the gentleman said solar had his pool up in the 90's.....scared me lol
New heat pumps have ability to heat your pool and ours has chiller ability. So yes we can bring temp to any desired temp in the summer with the Chiller mode.

We were very happy to have gas available, but choose not to. While it does heat quickly, the cost for natural gas in TV, along with the fees is high in TV compared to our northern homes.

T&D should be able to give you a cost comparison on gas. Definitely ask them for adding the unit that has chiller capabilities.
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Some locales will not charge you sewer tax for filling a pool. You simply fill out a form and submit it to the local authorities. Depending on where you live, check with your tax office.
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I have a question about filling our pool....We live in Marsh Bend and are putting a pool in. Can we fill the pool from the hose or would this be non potable water? Thanks in advance for info.
I have a pool put in last year and they filled it with my hose. Your hose water I'd the same as you in-house water; it is not irrigation water. I have a whole house water softener so I had to turn that off while filling the pool as not to over work it. It took about a day to fill and was about 13,000 gallons. The pool company gave me a letter indicating the exact gallons and that it was used to fill the pool and I gave it to the water company but they did not give me credit on my sewage. It cost me about $100 more on my water bill that month which was much better then I was expecting.
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Back up north, we would call the local fire department and for a donation, they would fill the pool, these were typically volunteer fire departments, and they used the pool filling to practice using some of the equipment on the trucks. I do not think they do this here at all, so you will get to spend $$$ and many hours to fill you pool.
Most pools down here are fairly small. Mine is 7,000 gallons. Using two hoses, I was able to fill it in less than two days, and the total cost was way under $100 - closer to $50. Up north they charged me $150 to fill it from our local hydrant. Faster yes, but two days is not a big deal to fill the pool, and this is generally a one time thing.
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Usually, the pool is filled with a hose from your house. Takes about 24 hours. Take pictures because hopefully, you’ll never see it empty again. Things sit for a while, then the salt goes in - if salt water pool. Your water bill will also include the sewer charge for the water used. Oh well. Enjoy the pool - you’ll love it!
Also, check out the website Trouble Free Pool - lots of useful information.
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I have a question about filling our pool....We live in Marsh Bend and are putting a pool in. Can we fill the pool from the hose or would this be non potable water? Thanks in advance for info.
No way to use non potable water. After all, once in the Pool, this water will be in contact with your eyes, mouth, and more. It is not 100% bacteria and other water pollutants free! I would call your water supplier and ask them if they have a special rate for filling out your Pool. Normally is cheaper the water for the house (despite you are using same source and hose from your house) they just charge you a different fee base in Pool estimate water capacity. Not all suppliers offer this.
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You fill the pool with your hose.....but you have to call the municipalities and notify them what you are doing as then they will charge you a much lower rate than your normal water bill.
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