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Old 07-31-2017, 12:32 PM
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Unless I missed something I don't like the fact that a coyote gets blamed for this if the animal in question was not seen. How big was the dog? What about a big owl? Or a bobcat or Florida panther? It is a terrible thing to have happen no matter what, but I think it should be a lesson to everyone to keep your dog on a leash....just don't let them outside.
The person who owns Jon Snow saw the coyote according to the other Villages site.
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I don't get something. I read dog owners are getting up at 2:30am and 3:30am to let the dog go to bathroom. Personally I think some training needs to be involved. Old people need our sleep.
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I don't get something. I read dog owners are getting up at 2:30am and 3:30am to let the dog go to bathroom. Personally I think some training needs to be involved. Old people need our sleep.
Oldsters can have weak bladders, maybe we need some training also.
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https://www.thepetitionsite.com/crea...QaArSjEALw_wcB

We could create a petition to deal with the coyotes and direct it at the Morses.
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Just because two dogs were killed? It is sad that two pets were killed BUT in BOTH cases, it was because the dogs were off-leash.

The irresponsible owners are to blame in both cases. The second one especially where the dog was let outside off-leash at 4 a.m.

Sorry, but I would oppose a petition to trap coyotes.
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Old 07-31-2017, 02:55 PM
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Good morning,can we set traps for the coyotes????I own a house in pine ridge. we saw one when we came home around midnight about 4 months ago.
Trapping coyotes on your own property may still require a license, perhaps depending upon your age. (Over 65 years of age has many license requirements waived.) Do some research on the Florida Fish and Wildlife pages.

Question: If you trap a coyote, how are you going to dispose of it?
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Just because two dogs were killed? It is sad that two pets were killed BUT in BOTH cases, it was because the dogs were off-leash.

The irresponsible owners are to blame in both cases. The second one especially where the dog was let outside off-leash at 4 a.m.

Sorry, but I would oppose a petition to trap coyotes.
I believe there have been more than two. Some people probably do not report it to the paper for fear of criticism.
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Coyotes may be hunted and/or trapped year around in Florida. However, as I believe I have previously pointed out, there is virtually no place in The Villages where it would be legal to discharge a firearm.

The coyote problem can only be addressed by the Morse family, if they choose to do so, by hiring licensed trappers to work on the problem in the open areas owned by the family.

Only licensed trappers may sell the coyote hides. Apparently there is a market for this.

The coyotes will never all be eliminated. It has been tried in a lot of locations, without success.

Do not let your pets roam free. They can be snatched up in seconds.
Actually it is legal to protect life or property.
The sheriff in Mulberry station confirmed this.
Of course once it leaves the muzzle you own it.
New Florida law bans backyard shooting ranges
You can't go out and hunt them in a residential area, but a revolver loaded with 22 blanks would likely get them running.

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Old 07-31-2017, 08:12 PM
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Question Confused.

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Coyotes may be hunted and/or trapped year around in Florida. However, as I believe I have previously pointed out, there is virtually no place in The Villages where it would be legal to discharge a firearm.

The coyote problem can only be addressed by the Morse family, if they choose to do so, by hiring licensed trappers to work on the problem in the open areas owned by the family.

Only licensed trappers may sell the coyote hides. Apparently there is a market for this.

The coyotes will never all be eliminated. It has been tried in a lot of locations, without success.

Do not let your pets roam free. They can be snatched up in seconds.

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Actually it is legal to protect life or property.
The sheriff in Mulberry station confirmed this.
Of course once it leaves the muzzle you own it.
New Florida law bans backyard shooting ranges
You can't go out and hunt them in a residential area, but a revolver loaded with 22 blanks would likely get them running.
Well, I confess to a certain level of confusion. I have spent a career (now retired) as a Deputy Sheriff in Florida, and we have never been taught that deadly force could be used to "protect property." (As much as we love them, dogs are, in fact, "property.") Firing a firearm is deadly force.

Assuming that the information which you received is correct, which I still doubt, then I wonder why "You can't go out and hunt them in a residential area."

A person who has a concealed weapons license can surely walk abroad carrying a concealed pistol while walking his dog. And, according to your information, the person can discharge the firearm to "protect property."

Remember it is a felony to discharge a firearm from a "vehicle," so don't be shooting from your golf cart.

I have a feeling that if someone shoots a coyote within The Villages with a lawfully possessed pistol, that person will, nonetheless, take a ride to jail.
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Old 07-31-2017, 08:28 PM
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Post It appears to me.........

The only law that I have found that might justify firing a firearm in a residential area "to protect life or property" has one warning.

The law that permits firing a firearm in a residential area "to protect life or property" only applies "if, under the circumstances, the discharge does not pose a reasonably foreseeable risk to life, safety, or property."

I strongly suspect that the police would argue that any discharge would be such a risk. They give you a ride, and you spend money on a lawyer.

Just my opinion.
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Apparently it's a misdemeanor charge, if unwarranted, from the article I posted and discussed with the sheriff.
Of course you would know your target and what's behind it.
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I don't think trapping or shooting coyotes is the answer. Wild animals were here long before The Villages moved to the area. We probably wouldn't be reading these type of stories if people would obey the rules/laws and have their dogs on a short leash when outside their house. Coyotes and other animals are just doing what comes naturally. Humans need to take some responsibility for their actions.
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Apparently it's a misdemeanor charge, if unwarranted, from the article I posted and discussed with the sheriff.
Of course you would know your target and what's behind it.
A residence or business would be behind your target almost anywhere you point in The Villages.
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A residence or business would be behind your target almost anywhere you point in The Villages.
True. I have heard farmers shooting once in a while within maybe 1/2 of a mile of Lynnhaven. Sounds like a rifle and not a shotgun. Nor really like a pistol. Rifle shots can travel quite a distance.
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