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Old 08-30-2025, 01:57 PM
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No, it isn't. OP prob meant MAINTENANCE fee, which is a non-ad valorem assessment. I would consider this and the fire district fee to be a tax as it serves the same purpose. The bond is not a tax, but it "plays one on TV".

The taxes are way lower in FL than any northern blue state, even before you factor in zero income tax.
Our MI bill for 3,400sf with 1 acre, lake house 2,300sf, and the cabin 1900sf, all have lower taxes than any of our 5 homes in TV.
I don’t count bond as anything other than something we sell with the house.
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As I said if the crime was under control.. I, personally, think it is still more fun to live in a vibrant area with mixed populations and movement. Living here is like we're all in a big kettle until we're done and then we're removed.
“Mixed Populations” ???

I love our Big Kettle. If you want MP visit Ocala, Wildwood, or Orlando.
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“Mixed Populations” ???

I love our Big Kettle. If you want MP visit Ocala, Wildwood, or Orlando.
There's is something for everyone.. glad you love it. I want to live in vibrancy not travel to see it.
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Our MI bill for 3,400sf with 1 acre, lake house 2,300sf, and the cabin 1900sf, all have lower taxes than any of our 5 homes in TV.
I don’t count bond as anything other than something we sell with the house.
That sounds like a lovely choice, you're fortunate to have those options.
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If Chicago is your paradise what are you doing here?
You tell me! Actually, the discussion started with the comparison of Illinois to Florida. I thinked it was skewed with the fact of all the facilities that are available but by the same token, who needs ALL those facilities to be happy but yet they need to be paid for by the residents. Like I said, one pool, one rec center and a couple of golf courses are the most we'll ever need.

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I want to live in vibrancy not travel to see it.
Again, then why are you here, instead of somewhere more "diverse and vibrant"?
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Well since that's never gonna happen, it's moot.


True, but it costs 5X when you add in traffic time, parking $$$, and there's still that pesky risk of carjacking or being mugged, so...hard pass.


Lots of gorgeous lakes near TV.


Don't need mass transit in TV, so not sure why this is relevant.

Finally, we have a winner!
There was a recent carjacking including a loaded gun and people who have been assaulted in The Villages. The lakes near The Villages have gators and aren't especially nice. (The gulf is great if you want to drive 2 hours through crazy traffic and normally big crowds.) Mass transient would be appreciated by many in The Villages were driving cars/carts are no longer available to those residents because of visual and other handicaps. There have been threads to that effect. Hey, it works for the crowds that live here but there are fine places to live outside this enclave.

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Again, then why are you here, instead of somewhere more "diverse and vibrant"?
I think you've missed the point, The Villages works for many, but there is usually an insistence in some posts that it is the "end all" choice for places to live. Not everyone feels that way, other features in different areas attract others. One poster went after Illinois which seemed rather funny to me because even with it's warts, it has so much more to offer in life experiences. No I don't live there and never have.
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Chicago is a dumpster fire, has been for many years. I grew up in the burbs. Fun city to visit, couldn't pay me to live there.
Dumpster ? Don’t you mean forest fire?
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There was a recent carjacking including a loaded gun and people who have been assaulted in The Villages. The lakes near The Villages have gators and aren't especially nice. (The gulf is great if you want to drive 2 hours through crazy traffic and normally big crowds.) Mass transient would be appreciated by many in The Villages were driving cars/carts are no longer available to those residents because of visual and other handicaps. There have been threads to that effect. Hey, it works for the crowds that live here but there are fine places to live outside this enclave.
Yep. If these are huge negatives to you, perhaps hold your complaints and go to your idyllic city.
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Yep. If these are huge negatives to you, perhaps hold your complaints and go to your idyllic city.
I tend to dislike whiners. If I don’t like something I don’t complain to others, I deal with it and take charge.
Not whining, clarifying with cloistered Villages that there are other heavenly places on earth, I know it's hard to hear.
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Not whining, clarifying with cloistered Villages that there are other heavenly places on earth, I know it's hard to hear.
Heh I feel the same way about people insisting that Florida is heaven on earth, that you feel about people insisting the Villages is heaven on earth. And I always get the "if you don't like it, leave" ergo decedo (traitorous critic fallacy) response from people who don't have the mental fortitude to address the substance of the discussion.

My response to them is usually something along the lines of "pay for me to live somewhere else in a similar style and comfort level and I'll get in line for a ticket out." If The Villages was in Albuequerque or Santa Fe, and had the same cost of living, we would be there instead of Florida. Alas, TV is in Florida. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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the proposed county taxes, added to the amenity fees, have now topped the $7K mark.
Is it the county taxes plus the amenity fees (which are about $200 a month)? Or is it the county taxes plus the utility bill which includes the amenity fee plus water, sewage, etc. and is usually about $350 a month.
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Heh I feel the same way about people insisting that Florida is heaven on earth, that you feel about people insisting the Villages is heaven on earth. And I always get the "if you don't like it, leave" ergo decedo (traitorous critic fallacy) response from people who don't have the mental fortitude to address the substance of the discussion.

My response to them is usually something along the lines of "pay for me to live somewhere else in a similar style and comfort level and I'll get in line for a ticket out." If The Villages was in Albuequerque or Santa Fe, and had the same cost of living, we would be there instead of Florida. Alas, TV is in Florida. It sucks, but it is what it is.
...reading between the lines, I think I know what you mean by your last line. But if I state it (the P word) I will get dinged...
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