[jimmy o]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

In just two days I've seen:[LIST][*]- A cart pulling directly into my path in a parking lot - at least I know my brakes work well[*]- A car nearly getting hit as it entered a roundabout without yielding to the traffic already there[*]- A car blocking both the crosswalk and the intersection to let grandma and the grandkids out[*]- A driver holding up a line of traffic when he didn't notice the red change to green - apparently driving wasn't his top priority[*]- A cart driving about 10mph down the cart path until my wife pulled out to pass, then it was able to speed up to 20mph to try and prevent the pass (and yes, it slowed back down after being passed)[*]- A Sumter County Sheriff's deputy pass me heading into a roundabout and pull away through and beyond the roundabout - I need to get my spedometer calibrated since mine was reading 60 as I was trying to keep up with him (and no, no lights or siren and he stopped at the next red light)[/LIST
If this is any indication, it is going to be a long three months.

Ha, you think that is something. Yesterday I saw a cart going about 20 in the cart lane of ODell and a car pulling up along side going about 30 and they both pulled over for a passing ambulance. If that’s not weird enough, then they had the audacity to use their turn signals to pull back in traffic after the ambulance passed. Yikes, what is this world coming to?

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Actually, the progression is more like....slow driving causes impatience, which results in the person/people behind the slow driver doing any number of things that aren't safe, such as improper lane changes, excessive speed, passing inappropriately, and several other items on the list that was presented. But the PRIMARY cause is hazardous behavior and poor judgment brought on by excessive impatience on the part of the person BEHIND the slow driver, and the common denominator is speed.

What the poster appears to be saying is that he is not responsible for engaging in dangerous acts in his vehicle, if those acts are caused by him being impatient with the guy in front of him.

Sorry. I don't buy it.

"But the PRIMARY cause is hazardous behavior and poor judgment brought on by excessive impatience on the part of the person BEHIND the slow driver..."


Well said.

I am no longer amazed that so many people, especially around here, have the totally selfish/incorrect attitude of - "I have a right not to be inconvenienced."

Sure, being stuck behind a slow driver can be very aggravating, but is never justification for taking unsafe and idiotic actions.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by tvbound

"But the PRIMARY cause is hazardous behavior and poor judgment brought on by excessive impatience on the part of the person BEHIND the slow driver..."


Well said.

I am no longer amazed that so many people, especially around here, have the totally selfish/incorrect attitude of - "I have a right not to be inconvenienced."

Sure, being stuck behind a slow driver can be very aggravating, but is never justification for taking unsafe and idiotic actions.

First of all, it is possible, even the norm, to pass a slow driver in a safe and courteous manner without getting aggravated or behaving in an "unsafe and idiotic" manner.

Second, "I have a right not to be inconvenienced."???? So why does ONE idiot going 50 in the left lane of I-75 have the right to "inconvenience" HUNDREDS of other drivers?

[TCRSO]

The simple answer is YES. We have seen cars on the golf cart paths; Golf carts on major roads and on sidewalks and; a long list of dangerous driving in cars and golf carts. It happens all year but we have more people for the next several months so expect the worse.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

England has cameras everywhere and I bet that they have MORE Police in areas with high population density like The Villages - and they are not some anti-personal freedom country like Russia and China. Some parts of the US ALREADY have lots of cameras to prevent crime. Department stores and Walmart have had cameras for the last 60 years and that has NOT turned the US into a RAVING mad Communist country. I bet that Canada has plenty of cameras in large cities. And SOON in the future there will be cameras in the sky on drones watching traffic and spotting crime. That will NOT make or break The Villages into a socialist hellhole.
........The problem is that it would represent CHANGE and many people, especially the elderly RESENT change!
........More Police or more cameras could be BOTH a good OR a bad thing, just like Nuclear energy or rockets to the Moon or ANYTHING.........it is the INTENT and the application of ANY NEW idea that determines if its value is good or bad.

Who cares what England does.

The last time they tried to impose their will on us, we shot them...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well, that may be true, but it is also true that there are a lot of residents here that had sped-up, modified, hot rods in their youth. And they have the knowledge, inclination, and TIME to accomplish hot-rodding a golf cart. Also, they like to tinker. What better way to revisit their youth than to BLAZE down a residential street at 50 MPH, while proclaiming their GREAT individuality and giving a finger to norms !!!!!!
......Look at all the customized golf carts around here. I think that that would prove the possibility of interest in hot-rodding. And think of the psychological THRILL involved in passing all those ordinary residents going the mere speed limit of the average golf cart.

The Possibility?

Earlier, you stated you witnesses it...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Amazing how some people are in favor of the "nanny state". So much for individual responsibility

Remember what Ben Franklin sais...

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by tvbound

the PRIMARY cause is hazardous behavior and poor judgment brought on by excessive impatience on the part of the person BEHIND the slow driver..

I think that is what happened near me a few weeks ago.

I was driving south on Buena Vista at 35 mph in the right lane. When I got to the roundabout at lower Bailey Trail, I decreased my speed to 20 mph, went thru the the RAB, and then started to accelerate to 35 mph.

A car behind me in the right lane must have been annoyed at me, so he cut over to the left lane to get around me. Unfortunately for him, there was another car in the left and they collided. In my rear-view mirror, I saw them both pull off the road.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Correct. It's not cameras that would turn the Villages and the rest of America into a socialist hellhole-----it's people and their woke ideas.

Winston Smith and Julia were in love with the cameras

Woke Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

1
: aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

From Dictionary.com:

verb
a simple past tense of wake1.
adjective
having or marked by an active awareness of systemic injustices and prejudices, especially those involving the treatment of ethnic, racial, or sexual minorities:
In light of incidents of police brutality, it’s important to stay woke.
He took one African American history class and now he thinks he’s woke.
This generation of kids is trying to make woke choices in life.
Disparaging. of or relating to a liberal progressive orthodoxy, especially promoting inclusive policies or ideologies that welcome or embrace ethnic, racial, or sexual minorities.
Slang. aware of the facts, true situation, etc. (sometimes used facetiously):
The moon landing was staged. Stay woke!

First definition in urban dictionary:

Spiritual and intellectual enlightenment, like waking up from a deep sleep and seeing things clearly for the first time.
I never knew what really mattered in life. Now I'm woke.

Another awesome definition from urban dictionary:

Getting woke is like being in the Matrix and taking the red pill. You get a sudden understanding of what's really going on and find out you were wrong about much of what you understood to be truth.
I understand the extra burden it puts on you but I still feel everyone needs to get woke.

-----------------------------

Remember - the opposite of woke would be oblivious, or ignorant, or asleep, lacking conscience, myopic, blind, and in the extreme, sociopathic.

I'll gladly be woke, given the alternatives.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by VApeople

I think that is what happened near me a few weeks ago.

I was driving south on Buena Vista at 35 mph in the right lane. When I got to the roundabout at lower Bailey Trail, I decreased my speed to 20 mph, went thru the the RAB, and then started to accelerate to 35 mph.

A car behind me in the right lane must have been annoyed at me, so he cut over to the left lane to get around me. Unfortunately for him, there was another car in the left and they collided. In my rear-view mirror, I saw them both pull off the road.

That is a good story about a situation of impatience. My pet peeve is when I am in the right lane on a highway or interstate and I am going 5 MPH over the speed limit because that is what most of the traffic is doing - and then I see some clown show person racing up to me to "bumper tag" me. I think that maybe some of these people MUST ACTUALLY believe that they are SAFER by being as close as possible to the car in front of them. This MERELY makes me just want to SLOW down so that they will pass me because I feel SAFER with a clown like that in FRONT of me. I wonder if the police hand out many tickets for tailgating - I don't think so - I think they ignore it.
........And when I leave adequate space between my car and the car in front of me, invariably along comes another clown that thinks that they have a MISSION in life to fill that space in order to tailgate that car in front of me.
.........Here is something that I have observed. If you see a certain car that made one bad driving mistake of some kind - keep your eye on that car and likely if you stay behind him for about 5 miles - you will see them make ANOTHER mistake. They seem to repeatedly make mistake after mistake.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That is a good story about a situation of impatience. My pet peeve is when I am in the right lane on a highway or interstate and I am going 5 MPH over the speed limit because that is what most of the traffic is doing - and then I see some clown show person racing up to me to "bumper tag" me. I think that maybe some of these people MUST ACTUALLY believe that they are SAFER by being as close as possible to the car in front of them. This MERELY makes me just want to SLOW down so that they will pass me because I feel SAFER with a clown like that in FRONT of me. I wonder if the police hand out many tickets for tailgating - I don't think so - I think they ignore it.
........And when I leave adequate space between my car and the car in front of me, invariably along comes another clown that thinks that they have a MISSION in life to fill that space in order to tailgate that car in front of me.
.........Here is something that I have observed. If you see a certain car that made one bad driving mistake of some kind - keep your eye on that car and likely if you stay behind him for about 5 miles - you will see them make ANOTHER mistake. They seem to repeatedly make mistake after mistake.

Hey---one of your best posts and I can actually agree upon! Is the world coming to an end?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Remember what Ben Franklin sais...

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Context is everything. That quote is often misapplied. Just a moment...

It doesn't mean what you think it means.

[Calisport]

It seems to be much worse this year as soon as December rolled around. I saw a lady in a golf cart on Morse today. No license plate and going about 20mph south of 466A. Two carts not stopping turning right in front of me at a golf cart underpass by the Sarasota golf course.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

First of all, it is possible, even the norm, to pass a slow driver in a safe and courteous manner without getting aggravated or behaving in an "unsafe and idiotic" manner.

Second, "I have a right not to be inconvenienced."???? So why does ONE idiot going 50 in the left lane of I-75 have the right to "inconvenience" HUNDREDS of other drivers?

Since you purposely chose to cherry pick what I said, one can only presume that I hit a nerve...and you somehow saw yourself?

Here is my post in its entirety.

Originally Posted by tvbound

"But the PRIMARY cause is hazardous behavior and poor judgment brought on by excessive impatience on the part of the person BEHIND the slow driver..."



Well said.

I am no longer amazed that so many people, especially around here, have the totally selfish/incorrect attitude of - "I have a right not to be inconvenienced."

Sure, being stuck behind a slow driver can be very aggravating, but is never justification for taking unsafe and idiotic actions.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Since you purposely chose to cherry pick what I said, one can only presume that I hit a nerve...and you somehow saw yourself?

Here is my post in its entirety.

Please show me the part that is "cherry picked", considering I hit reply and therefore copied your post IN IT'S ENTIRETY

And then tell me how a statement that refers to "courteously and safely" passing a slow driver has anything to do with "hitting a nerve" other than exercising caution when SOME IDIOT is dictating THEIR speed to hundreds of other drivers.

Lastly, don't "presume" unless you know what you are posting.