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pqrstar 12-06-2012 04:34 PM

I would call moving here "Drinking from the Fountain of Youth"

because you feel much younger living here

duffysmom 12-06-2012 04:34 PM

[quote=senior citizen;590376]They don't tell people NOT to bring up the tragedy. It's actually cathartic to discuss it. We always listen with interest and tears in our eyes.....even my adult children. Better to talk about the memories and family stories than to bottle it up.
The biggest kick I have gotten reading TOTV is when so many folks DENIED that the lawyer had jumped into his backyard pond to rescue his little pooch that was truly being attacked by a REAL LIVE ALLIGATOR.

They denied the man existed, that it was all a made up story......even when the gator was captured by the trapper..........it was still denied, even when it made the GREAT BRITAIN (England) newspapers.
Does anyone else see something wrong with this picture?????????

Senior this is the first I've heard that people denied the man existed.
Anyone who has lived in TV for over a week or two knows there are alligators and they need to be cautious around ponds. It gets old when people who do not live here become authorities on how we Villagers think and feel. Oh and thank you for the psychoanalysis of why people who suffered a tragedy should be more open and discuss it, I know I feel better.:shrug:

Taltarzac725 12-06-2012 04:53 PM

Seen the Buffalo.

eweissenbach 12-06-2012 04:55 PM

"Got Morsed"

Down Sized 12-06-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 590230)
It does seem offensive especially with its relationship to the Jonestown Massacre. Seem to recall at least one TOTVer who had a relative who died in that tragedy.

Any statement or comment made could be offensive to SOMEONE somewhere. Can't please everyone.

duffysmom 12-06-2012 05:05 PM

Kissed a frog, got all hopped up and bought a pad, became a frog and love it here warts and all.

Taltarzac725 12-06-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Down Sized (Post 590508)
Any statement or comment made could be offensive to SOMEONE somewhere. Can't please everyone.

True, but TOTVers interests and sensitivities should be taken into account especially when you know that someone who is on TOTV almost every day had friends or relatives who died in Jonestown.

Villageshooter 12-06-2012 06:09 PM

a better idea
 
i agree with the statement of drinking the KA,,it can describe folks true blind faith that is perceived about this place .just another adjective. as they say in the NFL...
COMEONMAN!!!!!

coconutmama 12-06-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 590297)
I do not think "drinking the kool-aid" as an analogy is older than Jamestown. I think it is directly related to that tragedy, and refers to people who blindly follow along with the crowd or a charismatic leader, without regard to the consequences.

As for people who snap at newbies, I think they see certain opinions as a threat to their strongly held beliefs and react accordingly. The dynamics of chat sites like this, and I have been a participant on several over the last ten plus years, are interesting to say the least, and would probably make for a fascinating psychological study. People who are relatively non-confrontational in their real life, suddenly become active debaters on a keyboard. People who are passive-aggressive in life become simply aggressive on a keyboard. With a level of anonymity comes a "courage" to say things one would seldom, or never, say to another person's face. Add that to the fact that many people struggle to accurately express their opinions and feelings, and you have a situation rife with the probability of misunderstandings. I have often found statements I have made to be minconstrued or mischaracterized. Sometimes it is my fault, particularly in an effort to be brief and concise when I don't provide adequate context, and sometimes it is because the responder did not read carefully, or misinterpreted what I said. I try not to get too excited about what people say here because; a. everyone is entitled to their opinion, and legitimate opinions can coexist, even if diametrically opposed, and; b. because I can choose what I read, and I can choose what I want to beleive, regardless of what anyone else thinks or types. Have a nice day and be kind to one another! Merry Christmas.

Nice post. A Merry & Blessed Christmas to you too.

Irish Rover 12-07-2012 04:30 PM

mgm444, I agree completely and that's why I rarely respond to any topic.

rubicon 12-07-2012 05:07 PM

Senior citizen thank you for this thread
 
This thread is classic The Villages"".

First there is more than one genesis for an idea. I can recall a guy who wrote the editor that the state finally listened to him and created a new license plate. Really just how many thousands of risents do you suppose had the sme thought. So I believe more than one incident created the need for the term kool aid.

Secondly, the over-reaction to senior citizen's informational post providing a definition of kool aid is instructive as to how deeply "political correctness has replace candid conversation in our society. Since most residents are over 55 should we also avoid the term dying death? What other terms or issues should we prohibit. How much further should we go in our society until we finally succeed in ending free speech. My best friend(a brother to me) committed suicide should I ask people not to use that term in my presence? No I welcome the oportunity to explain to people that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem

As to kool aid in connection to The Villages the fact remains that there are folks who did just that. You want to identify them? they are the residents who actually believe that by moving here they are wealthier, safer, healthier and living in a Disneyworld. Personally I have always subscribe to the belief that you can ignore reality and have it work against you or embrace it and have it work for you.

Some residents here just have to get a grip.

Senior citizen thank you for your post

Taltarzac725 12-07-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 591002)
This thread is classic The Villages"".

First there is more than one genesis for an idea. I can recall a guy who wrote the editor that the state finally listened to him and created a new license plate. Really just how many thousands of risents do you suppose had the sme thought. So I believe more than one incident created the need for the term kool aid.

Secondly, the over-reaction to senior citizen's informational post providing a definition of kool aid is instructive as to how deeply "political correctness has replace candid conversation in our society. Since most residents are over 55 should we also avoid the term dying death? What other terms or issues should we prohibit. How much further should we go in our society until we finally succeed in ending free speech. My best friend(a brother to me) committed suicide should I ask people not to use that term in my presence? No I welcome the oportunity to explain to people that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem

As to kool aid in connection to The Villages the fact remains that there are folks who did just that. You want to identify them? they are the residents who actually believe that by moving here they are wealthier, safer, healthier and living in a Disneyworld. Personally I have always subscribe to the belief that you can ignore reality and have it work against you or embrace it and have it work for you.

Some residents here just have to get a grip.

Senior citizen thank you for your post

I had a very close great uncle who committed suicide and one of the worst murders in the history of Nevada (according to law enforcement) occurred on my birthday of 2-24 in 1976. This was the murder of my then high school teacher's daughter Michelle Mitchell in Reno, Nevada near the University of Nevada, Reno campus.

I would be insane to insist that people not celebrate birthdays even though they do remind me of Michelle Mitchell's murder on 2-24. And the word "suicide" should not immediately dredge up painful memories for you as it does not for me.

It just seems to be a matter of decency to at least two TOTVers who had friends or relatives who lost their lives due to the cult in Jamestown to not use this phrase.

Bogie Shooter 12-07-2012 05:25 PM

[QUOTE=senior citizen;590376]
The biggest kick I have gotten reading TOTV is when so many folks DENIED that the lawyer had jumped into his backyard pond to rescue his little pooch that was truly being attacked by a REAL LIVE ALLIGATOR.

They denied the man existed, that it was all a made up story......even when the gator was captured by the trapper..........it was still denied, even when it made the GREAT BRITAIN (England) newspapers.

Does anyone else see something wrong with this picture?????????

QUOTE]

I read every post on the threads regarding the rescue of the dog. I did not see any posts where the poster denied that the lawyer existed. Let alone "many folks" as you suggest. Where do you get this information.......just make it up as you go along?
What I find wrong with this picture is you are attacking posters that don't exist........but you make it a great story.

Bogie Shooter 12-07-2012 05:42 PM

For your enjoyment, here is the previous thread.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ool-aid-31004/

Villages PL 12-07-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ugotme;590***
How about "We are Villed-out?"

Okay so shoot me argggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !

How about, "losing all sense of reality?"


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