[TrudyM]

Read on here someone in Sanibel has pops in the cement on their lanai.

Is a pop a hole?
According to engineer hubby if there are holes in the concrete within the first few years after a pour then the mix wasn't right or they didn't vibrate it enough to get it to settle properly. If this is a problem on the lanai what about the interior slab under tile that may then crack.
I worry about the level of construction when they were putting them up so fast. The warranty is a year is that right? Non visual structural issues can take years to show up.

[graciegirl]

I think they do an excellent job putting up homes. Their concrete crews have been with them for twenty years as have most all their building crews. They have many, many specialty crews. They have different ones for each kind of home; designer, premier and villa. They have crews who ONLY roof, crews who ONLY frame and crews who ONLY plumb and those that do electricity. They even have a group that seals each seam on the interior, the crown moulding and the baseboard, etc.

They may work quickly but they work carefully and every single thing is checked. I could see the builders notes and directions that were stuck to the back sliders when our house was being built. We have built many homes over the course of our lives and our children have built several This is the most efficient process here in The Villages that we have encountered and we have built a couple larger custom homes too.

If you have a question call warranty. They are the ones who have power over all the different teams and they will see that any problem is corrected.

P.S. I don't work for the developer.

[villagetinker]

I think structural warranty, is much longer.

[dgammon6]

They may be referring to this, if a rock in the concrete is close to the surface, the hot sun will heat the rock causing it to pop out leaving a small hole. In the Northern states this can happen with a porous rock that absorbs moisture and then freezes. I had this happen to a couple of spots in my driveway when we first moved in, that was the explanation I got.

[Sable99]

I've been told it is happening because the contractors TV hired didn't let the concrete sit (cur?) long enough before they applied the coating.

[wudda1955]

Structural has a 10 year warranty.

[graciegirl]

We had an "eroded" area on the corner of our driveway and they fixed it...three years later.


There are thousands and thousands and thousands of homes here. I don't see the concrete driveways falling apart.

[mulligan]

Originally Posted by Sable99

I've been told it is happening because the contractors TV hired didn't let the concrete sit (cur?) long enough before they applied the coating.

What coating ??

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I think they do an excellent job putting up homes. Their concrete crews have been with them for twenty years as have most all their building crews. They have many, many specialty crews. They have different ones for each kind of home; designer, premier and villa. They have crews who ONLY roof, crews who ONLY frame and crews who ONLY plumb and those that do electricity. They even have a group that seals each seam on the interior, the crown moulding and the baseboard, etc.

They may work quickly but they work carefully and every single thing is checked. I could see the builders notes and directions that were stuck to the back sliders when our house was being built. We have built many homes over the course of our lives and our children have built several This is the most efficient process here in The Villages that we have encountered and we have built a couple larger custom homes too.

If you have a question call warranty. They are the ones who have power over all the different teams and they will see that any problem is corrected.

P.S. I don't work for the developer.

there are so many things wrong with your post i don't know where to begin.
I have also been a builder in the north for 36 years and they do have a lot of employee rotating and some builders have been there awhile.
Concrete needs 28 days to Cure and the houses are built in 60 to 70 days so you do the math. for the speed they build for production houses they do ok, don't get me wrong i am very pro Morse and what he does for the economy here in Central florida, they feed a lot of families.
The reason why they stay to the production houses and not custom homes here, is less chance for errors and it becomes repetitious.
a lot of the help knows their job once there told and they do it over and over again, but a lot of them don't have the ability to read plans.
I will stop here or this post will be a mile long. To the average eye the homes are ok, to a trained eye there is a lot of hidden errors due to them moving too fast. One thing to point out, look above eye level, top of tiles on roman showers are rarely chalked (mildew can build behind tile) , top of ledges on archways are not textured or painted, the Molding on base molding have way to much chalking and miter joints are poor etc.... I HAVE TO STOP have a nice day

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

there are so many things wrong with your post i don't know where to begin.
I have also been a builder in the north for 36 years and they do have a lot of employee rotating and some builders have been there awhile.
Concrete needs 28 days to Cure and the houses are built in 60 to 70 days so you do the math. for the speed they build for production houses they do ok, don't get me wrong i am very pro Morse and what he does for the economy here in Central florida, they feed a lot of families.
The reason why they stay to the production houses and not custom homes here, is less chance for errors and it becomes repetitious.
a lot of the help knows their job once there told and they do it over and over again, but a lot of them don't have the ability to read plans.
I will stop here or this post will be a mile long. To the average eye the homes are ok, to a trained eye there is a lot of hidden errors due to them moving too fast. One thing to point out, look above eye level, top of tiles on roman showers are rarely chalked (mildew can build behind tile) , top of ledges on archways are not textured or painted, the Molding on base molding have way to much chalking and miter joints are poor etc.... I HAVE TO STOP have a nice day

Did you buy one? Are you sorry?

[Chellybean]

I did buy a Ivy on a viewed lot and had my father-law taking pictures every day and it was a day to day challenge to get things done correctly from 1200 miles away. At one point i thought i was going to have to fly down to deal with the problems. Thank God i had A designer Gentleman that set are home up, when they were still building for folks. The Designer was also a builder and helped us through a lot of problems. They were building 350 to 400 house a month and going way too fast and alot of errors. Supply and demand is the problem and you just can't snap your fingers and increase your workforce by 30 % when Morse decides to ramp up.
P.s. My wife said Nurses make the worse Patients, (she is a Nurse) i think you get my Point.
Also i did get most of everything repaired that needed repair, but it took a great deal of convincing. The Blame game among contractors is endless.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Sable99

I've been told it is happening because the contractors TV hired didn't let the concrete sit (cur?) long enough before they applied the coating.

By whom?
Those guys at the 19th hole will tell you anything....................

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Did you buy one? Are you sorry?

Good questions.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

I did buy a Ivy on a viewed lot and had my father-law taking pictures every day and it was a day to day challenge to get things done correctly from 1200 miles away. At one point i thought i was going to have to fly down to deal with the problems. Thank God i had A designer Gentleman that set are home up, when they were still building for folks. The Designer was also a builder and helped us through a lot of problems. They were building 350 to 400 house a month and going way too fast and alot of errors. Supply and demand is the problem and you just can't snap your fingers and increase your workforce by 30 % when Morse decides to ramp up.
P.s. My wife said Nurses make the worse Patients, (she is a Nurse) i think you get my Point.
Also i did get most of everything repaired that needed repair, but it took a great deal of convincing. The Blame game among contractors is endless.

We have built seven houses and watched our kids build two.

The last one in Cincinnati was 4500 sq ft.

We have had two brand new homes here. One was a spec home and the second one built for us. We watched the second one being built every day. One day we walked in to see the tile guy tearing out the cap tile in the kitchen backsplash. I said what is wrong? And he was not happy, he said the builder told him to redo it. Both of our builders said they had been with the developer for many years. I am very happy with our home here. It doesn't have some of the wow factors of our last home in Cincy but it is well built and insulated and finished. Certainly worth the money and a very good investment.

Picture of tile in our small bath.

[Walter123]

[QUOTE=TrudyM;978341]Read on here someone in Sanibel has pops in the cement on their lanai.

It's an old Italian term.