[G.R.I.T.S.]

Originally Posted by Marine1974

In reality , you anti maskers and risk takers are putting the healthcare workers at risk and other people in your community and most likely looking for attention . When there are no more ventilators for you or a shortage of doctors or nurses , don’t complain about it . As you say , “live your life “ without being able to breath and don’t complain about it , Sadly . You are a healthcare workers worst nightmare. No the squares should not reopen right now . The country just saw its highest one day new cases number of Covid 19 , 152,000 in a day . At that rate it means every 10 days 1 million 520 thousand people will have contracted Covid 19 . In 100 days a 3rd of the country could contract the virus . That’s pretty serious numbers all because people want to live their life and not take precautions like the smart people who do . You can’t blame the President for this . Thank you for the people who are taking precautions and sacrificing and staying home. God speed . We can fight and stop this .

I'm not worried 'cuz Joe Biden gonna stop the virus.

[Marine1974]

You didn’t listen to your Governor and state health department?

[Cubnut]

Originally Posted by jksturgeon

It is not the responsibility of The Villages to protect you. if you feel unsafe going to the squares, don't go.
You must take personal responsibility to protect yourself as you see fit.

You missed the point entirely. Sure you have to protect yourself, but responsible leadership should also prohibit social gatherings that would spread the virus.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Cubnut

You missed the point entirely. Sure you have to protect yourself, but responsible leadership should also prohibit social gatherings that would spread the virus.

Solitary confinement for everyone? It only takes two people for one to spread the virus to another.

Please stop asking the Govt to create laws and mandates to protect you from yourself or us from ourselves. Do the right thing. Accept that others may make different choices and should have the freedom to do so. Don't ask for an authoritarian state, you really won't like it.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Neils

So you like and want someone censoring free speech, but only as long as the process does not impact you??
Free speech is an American right. No one should support censorship of the right to speak out.

Threats of assault should not only be removed, they should also be considered for referral to the proper authorities. At the very least, they should be subject to the stated rules that "users are not allowed to direct comments toward another user."

[doyle31]

The problem is, you and I both go to the grocery store to get essentials and we cross paths there. Then I am exposed. I’ve now gone to grocery delivery because of that issue.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Well, one of the things I have learned during this pandemic is that it often shows people’s true colors. Many folks are very concerned about the well being of other people, and are more than willing to make personal sacrifices for the greater good of fellow human beings even if it causes them some inconvenience. Other folks are selfish, insensitive, self absorbed *&$#@‘s who obviously don’t get the long term big picture and are only concerned with their short term personal agendas. I will forever remember which side of the fence many people have chosen.

I don't think it's true that the one side (the mask advocates/stay at home people) are more caring than the people saying that it's time to return to normal and limit the economic devastation, massive job losses, despair and loneliness brought on by extended self isolation. Businesses are not going to stay afloat unless they can operate at capacity again. Young people need to be in the physical schools around their friends. We need fun things like concerts, football games, 4th of July parades, family gatherings, church services, weddings, parties, etc for our quality of life.

We ALL have done our part to slow the spread while the medical community figured out how to treat this virus and got a better understanding of it. We now know that this virus is not nearly as deadly as once feared which is wonderful news. People have grown frustrated with the "mask nazis" or "the maskholes" as I've heard them referred to.

Were you aware that Antifa wore masks over their faces BEFORE this whole pandemic even started? Those are the folks who were setting cop cars on fire, throwing bricks at police officers, looting businesses, making the streets unsafe in many of our cities across the country. Do you think that they wear those masks because they care about you?

[giorgio1948]

Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109

Why Covid deniers? You stay home and cower in your house. I’ll go out, be careful and enjoy the The life I worked 50 years to have.

As Spock once said..."Live long and prosper"..."May The Force be with you"

[kanoa1kale2]

Originally Posted by Krittermom

Yes, those of us with preexisting conditions do stay home. But we still need to go out to the pharmacy, groceries and doctor offices, where we run the risk of exposure from those who just don’t care to take precautions.

Not true!! The pharmacies have drive through pick up. Some groceries have delivery, some have pickup without contact ala Walmart. Doctors offices check you BEFORE you are admitted and enforce mask discipline. Therefore, the only exposure you would have is if you allowed it to happen, not that is is certain to happen. You are responsible for the degree of risk you take on. If you are indeed one with the comorbidities, then take the max care by staying home and having home delivery options. Be safe for you!

[kanoa1kale2]

Originally Posted by Sedlecky

EXACTLY correct!

Don't you wear your mask and practice social distancing at the store and gas station? If the stores have the mask sign, most of us will acknowledge that and comply as respect to the store's wishes. Therefore, the only problem you would have is if YOU don't comply with the guidelines. Don't force your views on the rest of us. That will simply not work!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

I don't think it's true that the one side (the mask advocates/stay at home people) are more caring than the people saying that it's time to return to normal and limit the economic devastation, massive job losses, despair and loneliness brought on by extended self isolation. Businesses are not going to stay afloat unless they can operate at capacity again. Young people need to be in the physical schools around their friends. We need fun things like concerts, football games, 4th of July parades, family gatherings, church services, weddings, parties, etc for our quality of life.

We ALL have done our part to slow the spread while the medical community figured out how to treat this virus and got a better understanding of it. We now know that this virus is not nearly as deadly as once feared which is wonderful news. People have grown frustrated with the "mask nazis" or "the maskholes" as I've heard them referred to.

Were you aware that Antifa wore masks over their faces BEFORE this whole pandemic even started? Those are the folks who were setting cop cars on fire, throwing bricks at police officers, looting businesses, making the streets unsafe in many of our cities across the country. Do you think that they wear those masks because they care about you?

Yes, and the KKK wore masks before anyone ever heard of the word antifa (which is NOT an organized group, for the umpteenth time, sheesh).

That has NOTHING to do with the need to wear masks during a pandemic. Nothing, zilch, nada, zip.

Try to stay on topic.

Yes, people have a need, as social creatures of the human race, to be social creatures and interact with each other. Yes, it is considered "cruel and inhuman punishment" to force anyone into isolation or intimidate them through YOUR actions such that they feel unsafe in your presence.

Yes, people who REFUSE (not merely forget, and not have some life-threatening disease that might exist but I've never actually hard of a real actual bonafide example of) to wear a mask, ARE uncaring dolts. Yes, they are. There is no "fine people on both sides." There are two sides here. The people who - regardless of how they feel about masks - are willing to wear them as a courtesy and consideration to their fellow human being. And there are people who don't care, and won't wear them, period.

People can ABSOLUTELY congregate. They can hang out at each others' houses, they can go to school, they can dance in the squares, they can vote in elections in person, they can shop in the supermarket, they can go to the movies.

They can ALSO be required to wear masks while they're doing it. The thing is - no one should need someone else to "require" it. But sadly - some people are SO myopic, SO selfish, SO aggressively nasty, that they will REFUSE to comply and allow mask-wearing to become a social nicety, and the rest of society is allowing them to change the entire tone of society into one of anger and "my rights are more important than your health." We are no longer a community. There is no spin on this. A community works together. We work against each other. Therefore, we are not a community.

We're just a bunch of neighborhoods where people all live. That's all we are now.

[Niferlou06]

AGREE, agree, and agree more with you. Just because time has passed does not mean we should lower our defences or attention. Now more than ever EVERYONE MUST WEAR MASKS, remain away from ALL crowds, to include all Villages activities and clubs. Sorry, but if we truly want this to go away we need to be vigilant now, more than ever.

[kendi]

Life is good and meant to be lived. For myself I simply take the proper precautions while out, for the sake of myself and others. If I get the virus then so be it. If I die....well shouldn’t we all be looking forward to that at least a little? At least for Christian’s that is. If not then maybe it’s time to rethink the ultimate goal of the Christian life.

[denniskathyb]

Most of my golfing buddies believe that the numbers are only going up because of increased testing. More testing more cases uncovered. (ie: Trump's position).
I disagree.

[Gulfcoast]

OrangeBlossomBaby - I know from other posts that you are a sweet lady. But the reality is there is no way to make it safe for a vulnerable person to be in a crowd. Wearing a homemade mask does not make it safe for you to do any of the things that you say. If you are susceptible to infection and severe complications from what amounts to a cold virus then you really do need to take added precautions to keep yourself safe - staying at home, ordering delivery, teledoc, pharmacy drive thrus, grocery pickups, etc. You can't live in a car dependent, active adult community like The Villages and expect to stay perfectly free from the risk of catching a cold or other virus. That is simply not the lifestyle of the community that you live in.

FWIW, I see nearly 100% compliance with mask requirements at the stores and I currently live in a regular Florida suburb. People are wearing masks but this virus is still going around because the masks offer only so much protection. "Global Pandemic" only means widespread around the world. It doesn't mean that a virus is particularly deadly even though the media would love for you to believe otherwise.

As far as Antifa not being an organized group, I beg to differ. There has very obviously been a coordinated group of anti American agitators inciting mobs across this country to riot and terrorize. The media has been doing nothing but fanning the flames.