[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by michael 61

ugh - i‘m sorry i posted this question - i should have realized it would turn ugly - i simply was asking at about what time do many of the snowbirds leave, and nothing more than a simple answer would have sufficed without the commentary. I’ll know better next time.

one bad op does not a consensus make. Good ask imho.

[Villages Kahuna]

Whatever you do, stay off I-75 around the 1st of the month!

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by I'm Popeye!

Are you implying that you have MORE MONEY than those living here year-round?
I retired in 2009 and left a city home only to the working class or those looking to get killed. I moved to Florida to enjoy the days I have left and not run around from state to state like some gypsy.
Most of these snowbirds go back North or whatever to babysit the out-of-school brats anyway, but they will not admit it: it's the reason they go wild when they return to the Villages!

Many of the vilified "Snow Birds" didn't come here from "working class city homes" where they were waiting to be killed. Many (or most) come from fancy, expensive homes, in exclusive suburbs, that they have no need to escape from.

Perhaps if your life was more accomplished, you'd think differently about those who are in a position to enjoy the best of both worlds.

[Rwirish]

So you don’t like gators?

[banjobob]

True comment the exodus to the north begins in April . Truck stops are overloaded with RV’s

[La lamy]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

Such an ignorant, backwards comment. Shame on you.

[lisahathy]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

You are looking at the Snowbird population backwards. They aren't in TV clogging up everything for 1/2 a year- they are AWAY for 1/2 a year making things less crowed. If they were year round residents it would be crowed all the time. During the months they are away- and NOT using the amenities they are still Paying EVERY month. If they didn't pay while they were gone your amenity fees would possibly double. So, they pay year round, every month, and stay away freeing up space for half a year. Thank you Snowbirds.

Your comment is exactly right. Snowbirds pay a full year of property taxes, trash removal, amenity fees and only use these services for part of the year. The people that now live here full time and whine about snowbirds should be thanking them for subsidizing their retirement.

[hoot2602]

Originally Posted by Michael 61

I’ve only been here a few months - was just wondering at what point do most snowbirds return North?

Most of the permanent residents in TV are ignoring the fact that the permanent population of TV is increasing rapidly. This means that, on average, demand for services is going up daily. Then, add the Snowbirds and you have peak population and demand during the winter months. Ever wonder why there are new grocery stores, restaurants, etc., coming into TV? There are a few businesses that rely on the Snowbirds for survival/profits. But, you don't build a $100 million grocery store hoping that you will make a profit during 25% (3 months) of the year. The simple fact is that the population of TV is now more than 130,000 and it takes a lot of businesses to satisfy the needs and demands of that many people. Hence, growth begats growth. Thus, don't look forward to a significant drop in traffic or restaurant occupancy, etc., when the Snowbirds are gone because there are more of us permanent residents than ever before.

[Duppman]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Oh please with the nonsense argument about snow birds paying their amenity fees..big deal. They own a house, they pay. How about the renter snowbirds? They pay just rent to enrich home owners that arent true Villagers.

Snowbirds are merely vacationers, renter snowbirds are tourists.

Harold Schwartz never intended the Villages to be like this. Snowbirds should be shunned by all true full-time residents.

Hmm. Never took a 3+ month vacation while I was working. Please tell us more about Harold's vision! Shun away!

[WingedFoot78]

The traffic is going to get worse with every year as long as the developer keeps building new houses.

[TeresaE]

Snowbirds are welcome as long as they remember that this is not a resort, this is our HOME. Please treat it as such.

[seecapecod]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

You are looking at the Snowbird population backwards. They aren't in TV clogging up everything for 1/2 a year- they are AWAY for 1/2 a year making things less crowed. If they were year round residents it would be crowed all the time. During the months they are away- and NOT using the amenities they are still Paying EVERY month. If they didn't pay while they were gone your amenity fees would possibly double. So, they pay year round, every month, and stay away freeing up space for half a year. Thank you Snowbirds.

Finally - the voice of reason!

[Aviva]

Now that's a nice twist on the snowbird hate......and absolutely the truth!! If they stayed as they do own the house it would be busy ALL YEAR. You are lucky to have snowbirds to lower your amenity fees and free up space at pools and clubs for you in "off season"

[bowlingal]

when do the snowbirds leave? depends on how far north their other home is. They can leave anywhere from mid April to beginning of June. People from Canada can only be here 1 day less than 6 months. If they stay longer than 6 months, they lose their health insurance in Canada and also must pay taxes in 2 countries. As far as renters, usually March 31, as they rent for 3 months for the most part. So, April 1 ( on this Saturday) you should be seeing less congestion.

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The "have nots" will always resent the "haves". It's human nature, although you'd think by retirement age, folks would have gotten over it ... what the hell, they've spent a lot of time as "have nots".

I guess you’re one of those who doesn’t put his pants on one leg at a time. Just because we choose NOT to burden ourselves with the additional debt of owning and maintaining a second home somehow makes us inferior. You some how imply that $$$ makes you better…talk to God about that.