[forznoles]

Due to a "clerical error", Sumter County Animal Services put down a pregnant dog that was slated to be rescued by a local rescue group. The person responsible gets a "reprimand", but of course keeps their job and nice Florida FRS retirement going. Meanwhile, for the dog and her puppies.....

Sumter residents upset after pregnant dog euthanized | www.wftv.com

[kcrazorbackfan]

There are three things that really fire me up - messing with the family, talking trash about Police Officer's and hurting/killing animals. This is an outrage; totally unacceptable that this happened. Reprimanded? Right....Just a slap on the wrist. Too bad that people don't get fired for something as inexcusable as this is because "it's just a dog".

OP, be prepared to hear from the dog haters.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

This is an outrage; totally unacceptable that this happened. Reprimanded? Right....Just a slap on the wrist. Too bad that people don't get fired for something as inexcusable as this is because "it's just a dog".

I agree, this is outrageous.

[joldnol]

at the level of the employee their FRS retirement is far from "nice". FRS is not the bloated public pensions elsewhere but is very lean and modest and well funded

[looneycat]

so you're not upset by all the other dogs slated for euthanasia? Why is this dog different? She had been slated to be euthanized 3 days before until the rescue group said they would take her and due to her name not showing on the save list by accident, she was put down.
where's the hate and anger for the unfortunate person whose job it is to put animals down on a regular basis? fire them???

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by looneycat

so you're not upset by all the other dogs slated for euthanasia? Why is this dog different? She had been slated to be euthanized 3 days before until the rescue group said they would take her and due to her name not showing on the save list by accident, she was put down.
where's the hate and anger for the unfortunate person whose job it is to put animals down on a regular basis? fire them???

You are right, there is always two sides to every story Looney. I couldn't do that job, for sure but it is still what his job description is. Someone would be doing it if it weren't him. It sounds like an accident or an error, not an intentional act.

The animals are dead and nothing can be done about that now. I am sure that how things are handled will be changed.

I know I am preaching to the choir, but I will say. SPAY and NEUTER. Adopt rescues, don't promote unethical puppy or kitty mills. Love and cherish your pet and don't allow them to bother others. They don't know any better, but we do.

[Polar Bear]

Very unfortunate. But with no further details, I don't feel the tech should be fired. And just for the record, I'm a dog lover.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by looneycat

so you're not upset by all the other dogs slated for euthanasia? Why is this dog different? She had been slated to be euthanized 3 days before until the rescue group said they would take her and due to her name not showing on the save list by accident, she was put down.
where's the hate and anger for the unfortunate person whose job it is to put animals down on a regular basis? fire them???

I abhor any agency or individual that intentionally hurts/kills ANY DOG; I hope I made myself perfectly clear to you on that so there is no question; this dog was no different than others, it was just brought to light about this particular one.

[forznoles]

Originally Posted by joldnol

at the level of the employee their FRS retirement is far from "nice". FRS is not the bloated public pensions elsewhere but is very lean and modest and well funded

Nice how you decided to focus on this part of my message, and not the euthanized dog.

I would define a system that would let you retire with up to 90% last-five-years-average-pay for life, and then enter a DROP program that let's you accumulate 60 months of such and be paid out in a lump-sum upon your retirement in the last five years of your employment, with all of this on top of Social Security and any other savings one might have accumulated in their life to be "nice". If you think that's insufficient, then ask your handservants and butlers what they think.

Regarding "the level of the employee", the article did not give us enough information as to whether it was a managerial person, clerical person or otherwise who was identified as having made the specific error. Regardless, the fact that it takes an innocent dog like this, due to be saved by a rescue organization, to be put down BEFORE management decides to put in place "additional procedures" denotes incompetence of management, and they ARE at a level to procure a "nice" retirement if they put in their time.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by forznoles

Nice how you decided to focus on this part of my message, and not the euthanized dog.

You're the one who mixed your love of dogs with your obvious dislike for the retirement compensation that state employees work for their whole life.

Make up your mind...do you want to focus on your message or bad-mouth others. Pick one or both. But don't condemn others for replying to your statements.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by forznoles

..... (snipped) ...... the fact that it takes an innocent dog like this, due to be saved by a rescue organization, to be put down BEFORE management decides to put in place "additional procedures" denotes incompetence of management ...

[jbdlfan]

[QUOTE=forznoles;1046622]Nice how you decided to focus on this part of my message, and not the euthanized dog.

I would define a system that would let you retire with up to 90% last-five-years-average-pay for life, and then enter a DROP program that let's you accumulate 60 months of such and be paid out in a lump-sum upon your retirement in the last five years of your employment, with all of this on top of Social Security and any other savings one might have accumulated in their life to be "nice". If you think that's insufficient, then ask your handservants and butlers what they think.

Off topic, but I can't let that go unchallenged. The clerk working in an office that pushed that paper is not in that FRS class. Few employees get that pension. That's reserved for special risk like cops and firefighters.

Ok, back to your regular scheduled argument.

[joldnol]

Originally Posted by forznoles

Nice how you decided to focus on this part of my message, and not the euthanized dog.

I would define a system that would let you retire with up to 90% last-five-years-average-pay for life, and then enter a DROP program that let's you accumulate 60 months of such and be paid out in a lump-sum upon your retirement in the last five years of your employment, with all of this on top of Social Security and any other savings one might have accumulated in their life to be "nice". If you think that's insufficient, then ask your handservants and butlers what they think.

I focused upon your FRS statement so that others don't get as misinformed about FRS.

You are obviously ignorant of how FRS operates if you believe what you wrote. FRS is a distant cousin to public employee funds up North in that it is well funded and very modest in benefits. The average FRS retirement for state employees is 17 K (after 30 years of service). The average teacher pension is 30 K. FRS recipients (with the exception of special risk, ie state troopers) receive 48 % and not 90 % of the average of their best five years of service after they meet the 30 year minimum. Social Security is collected because the employee has paid into it for those 30 years just as in most jobs. Since 2011 FRS employees are the only citizens of the state that pay the state of Florida an Income tax. They pay 3% a year that is "suppose" to be their pension contribution but not a dime of the money gets put into FRS. It is instead placed in the general fund. DROP interest rates have been reduced since July 2011 to 1.3 % so the state actually makes money off of the participants.

[joldnol]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

You're the one who mixed your love of dogs with your obvious dislike for the retirement compensation that state employees work for their whole life.

Make up your mind...do you want to focus on your message or bad-mouth others. Pick one or both. But don't condemn others for replying to your statements.

Thank you