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Sabella 01-05-2021 06:15 AM

Vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by MOMOH (Post 1879491)
It seems we can be used by politicians to make announcements and get publicity for themselves, but when it counts, aka COVID vaccine for Sumter County, we're just "chopped liver". Where's our vaccine?

The Sumter County Board of Commissioners released the following statement on COVID-19 vaccination:

"The Sumter County Health Department has not yet established a list, line, or registry for an individual to sign up to receive the vaccine as the State of Florida has not defined the schedule and volume of distribution to Sumter County at this time.

Please watch the Sumter County Health Department website and press releases for future announcements."

Local news station this morning did a story about COVID vaccine for people over the age of 65 and how many of the autos in line to get the vaccine WERE FROM ANOTHER STATE and not residents of Florida. People in cars were interviewed from other states and stated their states rules now were giving vaccines to people over 75 years or some similar reason . Maybe Florida s vaccines should go to seniors who are residents of Florida. Just saying.

j_vermilya 01-05-2021 10:49 AM

This I do know, because it happened to me yesterday: Tried with multiple phones for 4 hours yesterday to get through to Sumter Health, finally got only the message that the event was full. The website only says stay tuned...then after watching local news in the evening I went to every website and link, including those listed as affiliated with Orlando Health and every county site that doesn't require residency...everyone single one was full, it's going to be a long time I think...

C. C. Rider 01-05-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1882547)
You the one employing these people? You got the means and money to cover the liability? Leave the medicine application to the professionals. Just because a needle riding junkie can do it to themselves does not mean I want an amateur involved in the process.

Why do you think it is so complicated to wipe a person's arm with alcohol, draw some liquid from a vial into a syringe, and then inject the liquid into someone's arm? What part of doing that seems challenging to you?

Daddymac 01-05-2021 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOMOH (Post 1879491)
It seems we can be used by politicians to make announcements and get publicity for themselves, but when it counts, aka COVID vaccine for Sumter County, we're just "chopped liver". Where's our vaccine?

The Sumter County Board of Commissioners released the following statement on COVID-19 vaccination:

"The Sumter County Health Department has not yet established a list, line, or registry for an individual to sign up to receive the vaccine as the State of Florida has not defined the schedule and volume of distribution



to Sumter County at this time.




Please watch the Sumter County Health Department website and press releases for future announcements."

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:
According to the Democrats we were not going to have the vaccination until the middle of this year. So be patient, Trumps warp speed got it to you early.:welcome::boom:

C. C. Rider 01-05-2021 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BayLady57 (Post 1882579)
Last I heard my facility is expected to receive 200 doses of the Moderna vaccine next week to start administering it to patients since most all the employees who were determined high risk for exposure have already been immunized. I case manage patients for two PCPs of a staff of 30 PCPs and my combined PCP's patient panel size is 2000 patients. Of those 2000 patients of just my PCPs 60 patients are in the age range of 85 and above. Of all the PCPs combined all having roughly the same patient panel size significantly > 200 of all these combined patients are > 85. So with your "AGE ONLY method of determining priority" you tell me without utilizing additional criteria how are you going to immunize a possible 1000 85 year old patients who all want it now and not the following week with only 200 doses of vaccine ????

My post addressed the issue of determining priority. Your post concerns supply issues. Two entirely different issues. Obviously, you can't give shots if you don't have the shots/medicine on hand to give.

Bill14564 01-05-2021 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by C. C. Rider (Post 1882771)
Why do you think it is so complicated to wipe a person's arm with alcohol, draw some liquid from a vial into a syringe, and then inject the liquid into someone's arm? What part of doing that seems challenging to you?

You don't seem to be considering lawsuits.

There is no chance the Federal Government is going to ship me a box of vaccines to inject into people's arms.

There is a very good chance that there will be lawsuits down the road for something related to the vaccines. There is very little chance CVS or their insurer is going to take the risk of hiring me to inject vaccines into people's arms with no certification and only a 15 minute training session.

Blackie 01-05-2021 11:48 AM

Some Florida counties are scheduling online.
 
Florida counties use Eventbrite to schedule COVID-19 vaccine appointments - The Verge

Stanman134 01-05-2021 11:50 AM

It’s absurd that the Sumter County Health Dept expects seniors in The Villages to try and call a phone number to try and make a reservation for the COVID vaccine. Been calling the designated phone number and it’s always busy. Why can’t the county establish a web site where residents of The Villages can go on line to request the vaccine. A database can be created in the order someone registers. In numerous other states (I.e. Texas) the registration for the Vaccine is done on line.

JoMar 01-05-2021 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanman134 (Post 1882797)
It’s absurd that the Sumter County Health Dept expects seniors in The Villages to try and call a phone number to try and make a reservation for the COVID vaccine. Been calling the designated phone number and it’s always busy. Why can’t the county establish a web site where residents of The Villages can go on line to request the vaccine. A database can be created in the order someone registers. In numerous other states (I.e. Texas) the registration for the Vaccine is done on line.

Several Counties have tried that and servers crashed.....never designed for the volume. Seems they changed to first come first served which creates other issues but when people are impatient, and uninformed, the crush will happen.

Joe V. 01-05-2021 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by C. C. Rider (Post 1882771)
Why do you think it is so complicated to wipe a person's arm with alcohol, draw some liquid from a vial into a syringe, and then inject the liquid into someone's arm? What part of doing that seems challenging to you?


Why do nurses and doctors receive medical degrees and constant retraining? If they allowed a person to inject themselves I would not object to that. You assume the liability of screw up in that case. Keep the amateurs not trained, licensed and skilled away from the people. Not complicated, as you say, but may be challenging to you.

JoMar 01-05-2021 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1882913)
Why do nurses and doctors receive medical degrees and constant retraining? If they allowed a person to inject themselves I would not object to that. You assume the liability of screw up in that case. Keep the amateurs not trained, licensed and skilled away from the people. Not complicated, as you say, but may be challenging to you.

Did you have any issues when the allowed pharmacists to perform the service?

Joe V. 01-05-2021 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1882950)
Did you have any issues when the allowed pharmacists to perform the service?

Duh. A pharmacist is licensed and trained, with a medical degree in pharmacology.

chet2020 01-05-2021 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1882334)
Oh more excuses, blame the future distribution failure on the people who got the impossible to do vaccine developed and got the vaccine distribution started.

You left out that the new SG said lots things could go wrong on meeting that Summer 2021 target leaving plenty of wiggle room for failure to meet the Operation Warp Speed vaccine rollout schedule.

Excuses for an administration that's not in power yet? Again, the Surgeon General has nothing to do with the vaccine roll-out, not the current one, not the future one.

BTW, providing federal funding to vaccine companies to speed development of a COVID-19 vaccine during a pandemic (Operation Warp Speed), let's face it, was the biggest no-brainer of all time. If you want to do cartwheels over that, that's fine. Too bad they didn't so the same with PPE and COVID-19 test kits, both of which are still inadequate.

JoMar 01-05-2021 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1882955)
Duh. A pharmacist is licensed and trained, with a medical degree in pharmacology.

The pharmacology degree did not include a lot of stuff they do today....many of the old pharmacists received the same training that they are giving to those that are giving the shots. It's ok though, you can wait for those that you feel are the only ones qualified, I will get it from anyone the health department feels is qualified....and as soon as possible.

jebartle 01-06-2021 08:30 AM

largest retirement 65 plus community in the nation and we have to get in line to receive covid shot in LEESBURG, will remember who is responsible!!!!

giorgio1948 01-06-2021 08:51 AM

My morning COVID search...
 
No Vacs left in Sumter Health Dept. only received 320 and they are all gone now.
Poor distribution in the early going here.
Unacceptable

biker1 01-06-2021 09:08 AM

Nope. The vaccines are being distributed across the country. There are not 600 million doses available right now. What is available is not all being delivered to Sumter County, as much as you apparently think they should be. Take a chill pill.

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Originally Posted by giorgio1948 (Post 1883111)
No Vacs left in Sumter Health Dept. only received 320 and they are all gone now.
Poor distribution in the early going here.
Unacceptable


John_W 01-06-2021 09:19 AM

I never injected myself until about a year ago, now every other Saturday I give myself an injection of Repatha. It a drug for lowering your cholesterol, it's not a statin, which I became allergic. This goes to the liver and stops the body from creating cholesterol.

The first time I watched a video on youtube and called Repatha and a nurse talked me through the process. There are some Repatha's that are in an injector pen, which you just press against your body and don't even see the needle.

Forever reason, the ones I get from Walmart Pharmacy at Colony are like regular needles. I give it to myself in my stomach. There is absolutely no pain, no bleeding, and it's really not a big deal anymore.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...EeBlQ&usqp=CAU

Sabella 01-06-2021 09:32 AM

Vaccine Lawsuits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1882792)
You don't seem to be considering lawsuits.

There is no chance the Federal Government is going to ship me a box of vaccines to inject into people's arms.

There is a very good chance that there will be lawsuits down the road for something related to the vaccines. There is very little chance CVS or their insurer is going to take the risk of hiring me to inject vaccines into people's arms with no certification and only a 15 minute training session.

I believe ALL the pharmaceutical companies making the vaccines no matter what the vaccines end up doing to us short or long term CANNOT BE SUED. We the people better wake up .

EdFNJ 01-06-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Stanman134 (Post 1882797)
It’s absurd that the Sumter County Health Dept expects seniors in The Villages to try and call a phone number to try and make a reservation for the COVID vaccine. Been calling the designated phone number and it’s always busy. Why can’t the county establish a web site where residents of The Villages can go on line to request the vaccine. A database can be created in the order someone registers. In numerous other states (I.e. Texas) the registration for the Vaccine is done on line.

Well many seniors would have computer problems as well however they did it online today. Sumter County used EVENTRBITE.COM (be careful, there were some EVENTBRITE scams) to "sell free tickets" for tomorrows vaccine. You had to be be FAST AND FIRST so use a PC not a phone. There weren't many because they "sold out" in 6 minutes. Lucky us we got in early for 2. Keep an eye on the Sumter County health dept website. Also they are starting to test a program at PUBLIX stores in Marion County. This was the link for the now SOLD OUT online signup but more will be announced by S.C.H. Sumter County Health Department COVID-19 Vaccination Tickets, Multiple Dates | Eventbrite

That being said, we would have much preferred NOT to get tickets if priority went to those essential workers who really need & deserve them however the Gov decided (IMO wrongly) the 65+ should be priority over those folks and if we didn't get one it would still go to another person like us.

EdFNJ 01-06-2021 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1882955)
Duh. A pharmacist is licensed and trained, with a medical degree in pharmacology.

"Pharmacists are trained in immunization technique and are well versed in how to administer shots, according to Carmen Catizone, D.Ph., executive director of the National Association of Boards of Pharmacy (NABP). "In fact, today, more patients are receiving their vaccinations from pharmacists than other healthcare providers," says Catizone."


Above quote from:
Should You Get Vaccinated at the Pharmacy? - Consumer Reports

Joe V. 01-06-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1883023)
The pharmacology degree did not include a lot of stuff they do today....many of the old pharmacists received the same training that they are giving to those that are giving the shots. It's ok though, you can wait for those that you feel are the only ones qualified, I will get it from anyone the health department feels is qualified....and as soon as possible.

Every practicing pharmacist today has received approved training and certs for injections.

Joe V. 01-06-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1883224)
"Pharmacists are trained in immunization technique and are well versed in how to administer shots, according to Carmen Catizone, D.Ph., executive director of the National Association of Boards of Pharmacy (NABP). "In fact, today, more patients are receiving their vaccinations from pharmacists than other healthcare providers," says Catizone."


Above quote from:
Should You Get Vaccinated at the Pharmacy? - Consumer Reports

I thought I implied that?

John41 01-06-2021 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1882448)
Good post...makes sense.

Getting the "political" aspect out, should have happened about 11 months ago and we would be better off.

The facts are below
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Read more
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is never shy to point out that President Donald Trump attacks him more than any other governor in America.

But on Monday, Cuomo took to an unlikely venue -- The Howard Stern Show -- to offer genuine praise for the president's response to the coronavirus in his home state.

"He has delivered for New York. He has," Cuomo said of Trump, in response to a question from Stern about whether the president has really done anything of consequence to help.

"By and large it has worked," Cuomo said of the relationship.

John41 01-06-2021 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1882403)
Not sure who the "people who got the vaccine impossible to do" developed that you refer to.

This vaccine has been in the works for years, and it took many hardworking folks throughout the world to get it done.

"Researchers were not starting from scratch when they learned about SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.


SARS-CoV-2 is a member of the coronavirus family. According to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, there are hundreds of coronaviruses — including four that can cause the common cold, as well as the coronaviruses that sparked the SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, epidemic in 2002 and the emergence of MERS, or Middle East respiratory syndrome, in 2012.

Dr. Eric J. Yager, an associate professor of microbiology at Albany College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences in Albany, NY, told MNT that scientists have been studying coronaviruses for over 50 years. This meant scientists had existing data on the structure, genome, and life cycle of this type of virus.

Dr. Yager explained, “Research on these viruses established the importance of the viral spike (S) protein in viral attachment, fusion, and entry, and identified the S proteins as a target for the development of antibody therapies and vaccines.” He continued:"

COVID-19 vaccine: How was it developed so fast?

Yes it was in the works for years and it would have been more years had Operation Warp Speed not brought it to fruition in mere months.
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Dr. Yager said that thanks to advances in genomic sequencing, researchers successfully uncovered the viral sequence of SARS-CoV-2 in January 2020 — roughly 10 days after the first reported pneumonia cases in Wuhan, China. The ability to fast-track research and clinical trials was a direct result of this worldwide cooperation.

dahrens1 01-07-2021 11:19 AM

As was mentioned in a previous post Publix started giving out appointments for the vaccine shot at some of their pharmacies in the Ocala area. They are all gone now but more will become available soon.

COVID-19 Vaccine | Publix Super Markets

dahrens1 01-07-2021 02:53 PM

From the Florida Department of Health Website:
COVID-19: vaccine summary
Vaccination data through Jan 6, 2021 as of Jan 7, 2021 at 12:05 AM
Total cumulative number of first doses given by county

Citrus 2,283
Hernando 2,656
Lake 7,728
Marion 4,051
Orange 28,008
Seminole 10,242
Sumter 1,218

rmd2 01-07-2021 11:08 PM

Covid Vaccine
 
Out of all the counties in Florida Sumter County the 6th LOWEST in vaccinations!
The Villages is the 5th largest community in Florida! Other large populations have vaccinations 400 to 500. We have 45!! Who is looking out for us?!

rmd2 01-07-2021 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1879505)
Hopefully, it's being given to those who have to work and interact with the public, instead of those who have the ability to stay home and are simply just bored and feel inconvenienced.

Really?? Older people are the ones who are most likely to die from it!!

rmd2 01-07-2021 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dahrens1 (Post 1879883)
Sumter County residents can call (352) 569-3102 starting Jan. 4 to schedule an appointment.

Before signing up, residents must review the pre-vaccination checklist link provided by The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention at: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ening-form.pdf.

This is now Jan 7th and that number has been busy all day every day since the 4th.

Bill14564 01-08-2021 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmd2 (Post 1883936)
Out of all the counties in Florida Sumter County the 6th LOWEST in vaccinations!
The Villages is the 5th largest community in Florida! Other large populations have vaccinations 400 to 500. We have 45!! Who is looking out for us?!

According to the FL Dept of Heatlh report, Sumter is doing much better than sixth lowest - it is about 39th in total vaccinations given.

Your 45 number might be the number of vaccinations just yesterday and even then we aren't sixth lowest (more like 10th). I wonder if that 45 number is accurate.

While we may have the 5th largest retirement community (I actually thought it was the largest), Sumter county is about the 32nd largest county in FL.

Sumter county's position in total vaccinations given (39th) is not too far off from it's position in total population (32).

EdFNJ 01-08-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rmd2 (Post 1883939)
This is now Jan 7th and that number has been busy all day every day since the 4th.

Because that number is shut down. That group of vaccines was gone. That number was only for that ONE DAY of vaccines. They are using EVENTBRITE website to schedule appointments but since there are none available as of last night there will be no way to schedule. Best place to check is the Sumter County Dept of Health website. ALL info is updated there including when they get their next shipment and a web link to try to schedule if you can get through. They are at the mercy of the Feds to ship vaccines. If you keep trying that number you will NEVER EVER get a vaccine.

Yesterday (thursday) they had just about 310 to give, they received over 35,000 ATTEMPTS to schedule on that website and were "sold out" in under 10 minutes.

Altavia 01-08-2021 10:18 AM

Large cities have more doses and a lower percentage of 65+ Which means more doses available for those in a hurry and willing to take a 1-2 HR drive.

Relatives had no problem registering and getting vaccinated in Jacksonville.


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