[chuckinca]

Not for me and I don't think it is a good addition to the local attractions.

A dog track or trotters without the card room would get my vote (if I had one)

[samhass]

I vote yes. I enjoy the track and cards very much.

[chelsea24]

I vote yes! I'm with Samhass. I love the track and poker. And as I asked on the other post, where do you people live? There is already gambling in TV. Many high stakes poker at house clubs and some at the rec centers. Cards and Mahjong for money everywhere. It's really no secret. As for the extra traffic, you all complain when the snowbirds get here too! Heck yes, bring em on. Many of the snowbirds are my best friends. I don't want The Villages to become an old people's home, no matter what my age is. I also think they should open up a couple of really late night clubs for drinks and dancing. The streets roll up at 10! I'm not that old yet and hopefully I'll always stay young at heart. You'll soon see a difference in attitude as the real Baby Boomers start arriving in the next two to three years. My hubby retired early. I want lots of new things to do, lots of new people to meet. My favorite line from one of the Marx Brothers movies "I want to sing, I want to dance, I want hot-cha-cha!" Ante up! ;D

[captain1202]

Perhaps we could convince the petitioners to do a combo horse/NASCAR track. Now THAT would be some noise!

According to the info in the "Oxford Park" thread it says "approx. 2 miles north of 466 and west of 301." I fail to see how that would cause huge traffic or noise problems in TV.

[dolpterry]

The new proposed track and card rooms will be located 1.7 miles north of 466 and right on 301 next to browns produce,thats the trouble 301 is already getting busy. Please vote no

[redwitch]

301 is being widened and more funds have just been allocated for even more work on 301. Either way, traffic on it will increase as it becomes more of a major thoroughfare.

I won't vote on this issue for the simple reason I don't know enough of the pros and cons. If I can find out enough to let me feel comfortable voting, I will. For now, it is truly an I don't know for me.

I've lived near race tracks. The traffic really wasn't that much worse on race days (but we are talking the SF Bay Area where traffic congestion is the norm). You adjust; just like you do when a ball game starts or ends at commute time. The noise level honestly wasn't that bad and, for awhile, I lived in a high-rise apartment right next to Golden Gate Fields, so I do know. You could occasionally hear the announcer but the wind had to be just right. As to the bad elements, yes, it will bring some. So will and does the expansion of TV. More people, activities, etc. bring crime. It's the nature of the beast.

[Barefoot]

Jan, I can understand why this would be of concern to you. And to anyone else who lives in a Village north of 466 on the western side of TV. Residents living on the western perimeter of TV are already subject to noise from the train tracks. It seems unfair to now locate a busy horse park in that same area.

Those of you who would vote for a horse park .. would you really want one within hearing distance of your back yard? I don't think so.

[nONIE]

Chuck, did you say dog track????

Are ya ready to get blasted??? I thought you learned your lesson with Veal?? >

[DENNIS G]

Another NO, NO, NO

[Russ_Boston]

I'm with Chuck - a good braised veal shank - yum - nothing better!

Bring on the bashers.

[nONIE]

Russ,

lucky for you, I am a peace loving soul.

[redwitch]

Russ, darlink, we would never think of bashing you. Hitting you over the head with your plate, yes, but never bash you.

How can you even think of eating an innocent calf that has been raised in a crate, never allowed to turn around, lie down, do anything but be force fed so that some human can eat its flesh? Don't get me wrong, I am a big time beef eater, but I do try to eat free range beef. However, just picturing a calf that never has a chance to do anything but suffer and die makes it impossible to eat veal.

I really, truly hope you are kidding. In the meantime, I hope Linda is reading this thread and decides to "bash" you for us.

[nONIE]

I cant begin to tell you how many times people have ordered veal when they are out to dinner with us, and I am absolutely sure they are doing it to upset me. So I have learned to keep my mouth shut and suck it up but a very strange thing happens almost every time they order it.I hear comments about how dry and tasteless it is all the time.

Im thinkin this must be justice prevailing, it happens way too often to be anything else.
Next time yur thinking of ordering veal off the menu, try giving a little thought to that baby calf who never had a chance to run and play and graze which is so natural to them, just so you could eat Veal, which will probably be dry and tastless anyway.

OK, Im done. Now Im ready for the bashing >

[beady]

Nonie :
You underestimate yourself. You are projecting your "distaste" into the universe and causing the veal to be dry and unsatisfactory. I am a believer , it can happen.

[nONIE]

Beady,

Of course, you are so right! I believe it, not intentionally of course, I would never do anything like that! evil6



So how did a racetrack lead to veal????