[LuvNH]

Originally Posted by Sage327

I left my home state of NY for what it has become. I was born and raised in the heart of NYC, lived in a wonderful, safe, close knit neighborhood, had a good job, access to museums and theater. I won’t go back even to visit because it is no longer safe to walk the streets or ride the subways. The politicians with their bail reform finally did NYC in.

Thank you for this post.

[Cobullymom]

Originally Posted by LuvNH

So many of us have found our way to Florida in our retirement years. The majority of us came from "up north", up north is where we made our living, went to school, made lifelong friends, met our spouse, married and bought a home. We then sold up everything and moved to TV in Florida to live out our retirement years.

I see no reason to diss your home state just because you moved here. Yes, northern winters can be brutal, but many of us continue to go back to family for holidays and have a great time.

We seem to forget that if we had been born in Florida sixty plus years ago we would never have had the quality careers we had "up north", we would never have made the money we made, never have had the opportunity to go to great schools or have great health care. Because sixty plus years ago Florida was known as the honeymoon state or for the nearly dead.

So before you start dissing your home state why don't you stop and think about how fortunate you were to be raised in a state with opportunities available to you and then been able to sell up and move to Florida.

Because it really stinks now, would never move back and feel sorry for the people stuck there that want to leave, a very happy day in my life when we loaded the truck and moved 34 years ago..buh bye NY

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You feel sorry for anyone who didn't grow up in NYC, but you're surprised at those who are "being ugly about NYC"...

Hmmm... There just might be a "cause & effect" thingy going on there...

I never said I was "surprised" by anything.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by Battlebasset

Quick question - When were your growing up years in NYC? If they were the 50s/60s then I would tend to agree. 70s/80s? Then I'm scratching my head.

50s and 60s.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

I never said I was "surprised" by anything.

"Surprised" is what you gleaned from my post?

Is "complaining about" a better descriptor?

[Battlebasset]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

50s and 60s.

I'm sure it was a magical time back then. Lots of people from lots of different places, and you are right about the food.

Didn't grow up there, but moved to NJ around 2005. Made a number of trips into NYC. Would visit with friends, and we would start walking in Times Square all the way down to the financial district, hitting bars and pizza places as we went.

Fast forward to 2019. The homeless, their "leavings", and the stench of pot. Saw my first body bag pulled out of the Times Square subway leaving work one night. Homeless woman pushed another woman into the path of the train. New Yorkers pulling their cell phone out to video it. No shame or respect.

Beginning of 2020 was the last time I was there. Sad what it has become, and I doubt I will ever go back.

[manaboutown]

"You can't go back." as they say. This thread got me curious so I checked on my former junior high, now a mid school, in Albuquerque. It is a public school in what used to be a good area, near the UNM campus and its medical and law schools. Many of my classmates went on to become engineers, scientists, successful business people, college professors, attorneys and physicians. Today only 21% of the students at that school are proficient in math and 27% proficient in reading. That saddens me...as does this, the direction the state has taken. It is circling the drain...IMHO.

It's official: The 'catch and release system' has failed | My Turn | taosnews.com

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[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by LuvNH

What a very peculiar reaction to my question. Take a deep breath and relax.

Your post was not 'a question' it was a lecture on how we should think & speak.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by mickey100

We lived in NY and when we go back to visit, I feel proud, not embarrassed like I do in Florida. But no place is perfect. I like to think the lifestyle choices in The Villages offset the negative aspects of the State of Florida.

I am guessing you are talking about the beautiful country of upstate not the embarrassing slum pig sty crime ridden city.

[Chi-Town]

Grew up in Chicago and rhe northwest suburbs. Would still live there if I didn't get sick of the long winters. The Villages made the move easier though and very happy here . But Chicago is still tuggin' my sleeve.

[SusanStCatherine]

I moved from Maryland which wasn't too bad a place except for the politics. Heavily gerrymandered. Look up Sarbane's Mayland's 3rd Congressional district (his father a long term senator). All four of my Marland representatives lived in the adjacent county (with very different demographics) due to gerrymandering. Our county had 40% and their 60% so nobody from our county could ever win. No voter ID. Non-US citizens can vote in municipal elections. I saw someone's ballot get rejected and the poll worker told the voter he couldn't vote for two people for president. Poll worker had sample ballots on who to vote for.
My representative blocked me on Facebook when I simply posted facts on a candidate. When I told her my health care premiums were no longer affordable to me due to the ACA, she emailed me a copy of a New York Times editorial. Weather is pretty cold January - April with high humidity that makes you feel even colder. Enough ice and snow storms to challenge drivers. The main thing I miss is the very high quality water supply.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by SusanStCatherine

I moved from Maryland which wasn't too bad a place except for the politics. Heavily gerrymandered. Look up Sarbane's Mayland's 3rd Congressional district (his father a long term senator). All four of my Marland representatives lived in the adjacent county (with very different demographics) due to gerrymandering. Our county had 40% and their 60% so nobody from our county could ever win. No voter ID. Non-US citizens can vote in municipal elections. I saw someone's ballot get rejected and the poll worker told the voter he couldn't vote for two people for president. Poll worker had sample ballots on who to vote for.
My representative blocked me on Facebook when I simply posted facts on a candidate. When I told her my health care premiums were no longer affordable to me due to the ACA, she emailed me a copy of a New York Times editorial. Weather is pretty cold January - April with high humidity that makes you feel even colder. Enough ice and snow storms to challenge drivers. The main thing I miss is the very high quality water supply.

My mother's family has lived in Maryland, mostly in the Baltimore area, since at least the 1890s. My mother, born in 1905 and a graduate of Goucher College, now part of Hopkins, taught school on the Eastern Shore before she married my father. Since the 1950s most family members have lived in Baltimore County as Baltimore City is a dangerous and highly taxed place to reside. My daughter lives in Cockeysville. I served in the Maryland Army National guard out of the Fifth Regiment Army back in the day. What has happened to the beautiful state of Maryland is tragic.

"EDUCATION REFORMER SAYS THAT BALTIMORE SCHOOLS ARE FAILING STUDENTS: In the Baltimore City Public Schools, the four-year high school graduation rate is 69%, the lowest in the state. In addition to the low district-wide proficiency, 23 schools reported zero students proficient in math.Mar 17, 2023"

From: Baltimore’s failing school system is making school choice the only hope for students, education activist says | Fox News.

[Sage327]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

50s and 60s.

I also grew up in Manhattan in the 50’s and 60’s. Where in Manhattan did you live? Its hard to explain how great it was living there because most people have a different view of NY. I wouldn’t live there now because of the high crime rate and it breaks my heart to see what Mayor Adams and Hochul did to a once great city.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

No. At least not in our younger years. But I had three brothers and there was always an ample supply of shovels around.

I recall once, about age 13 or so, when I asked dad why my brother and I had to saw up all the wood with a two-man saw when the big yellow Pioneer chainsaw, that I very well knew how to run, sat in the garage. His reply? "Because tired kids don't get into trouble". Sort of the same philosophy, I guess, with the driveway.

Now That is a parenting gem... Works with dogs as well, BTW.

[Laker14]

Spent my working years in Upstate NY...I return for May-October. I love upstate NY, and I enjoy NYC in very small doses.

I only dis the weather in winter, and to be more precise, the LENGTH of winter. I can do January, (although I prefer it here in TV), but dang, March...still sucks.....April....still sucks.....May....still kinda sucks a lot of the time....