[Michael G.]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Because Floridians have historically been hostile to Northerners. Some of them still aren't over the fact that the south lost the Civil War.

Trouble is historically a lot of (not all) Floridians were/are Northerners at one time.

[Michael G.]

I'm jealous of snowbirds because they have enough brains
to go north during a Florida summers.

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

I'm jealous of snowbirds because they have enough brains
to go north during a Florida summers.

Oh contraire. Snow birds are jealous of frogs who get to enjoy TV in the summer.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

For which you should be thankful since NY drivers are among the best in the world. In NY, Florida drivers are referred to as "road kill". NY politics are all over the board, just like everywhere else, as are the entitled an loud people. As far as no sense of direction---the drivers here can't even navigate a roundabout!

Born and raised on Long Island, hubby and I still joke that the turn signals here in Florida are the brake lights.

[wlasowicz]

First off what's the classification of a snowbird? Someone that's a full time resident but goes north for the summer because they may have a lake house or a snowbird is a person who is just a renter whether seasonally or full time? For those of you who just drive around in a golf cart and just stay in the TV you need to get in a car drive around Fl. during the winter months because the snowbird issue is just not a problem in the TV. but all of of Fl. Its crowded in all of Fl. during the winter months. I'm sure many of you were renters before buying into the villages. For those of you who say the snow birder don't follow the rules or bad that applies to the full timers also It all depends on the character of the person. Love them or hate them they bring a a lot of tourist money into Fl. and I'm sure that's one of the reason there is no state income tax

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

I honestly don't get it, why are TV snowbirds so despised? Can you explain it to us and help us understand what the divide is all about? Thank you.

We tend to use words such as despised to the point that they are meaningless. Awesome
is a clear example that seems to be gone-I HOPE. When, everything is awesome, nothing is. As far as snowbirds, it is a bit of an invasion. I only have xxxxxx weeks and it is costing me $$$$$$$$$. Sadly, this is true with too many things. HURRY UP AND RELAX.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Opengineer150

I grew up in Florida and the the reason we did not care for them was they bring their New York driving habits and Politics No idea where there going no sense of direction , To Loud and the sense of entitlement…

Perhaps, an interesting aspect of human nature. I hate them because. To the best of my limited ability before I hate anyone or anything I get to know them. Then vs us is the start of the problem. I try to keep my hate list empty AS IT IS NOW. That way when someone makes my HATE LIST I can give them my full attention.

"We did not care for them." is a clear indication of the problem.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by wlasowicz

First off what's the classification of a snowbird? Someone that's a full time resident but goes north for the summer because they may have a lake house or a snowbird is a person who is just a renter whether seasonally or full time? For those of you who just drive around in a golf cart and just stay in the TV you need to get in a car drive around Fl. during the winter months because the snowbird issue is just not a problem in the TV. but all of of Fl. Its crowded in all of Fl. during the winter months. I'm sure many of you were renters before buying into the villages. For those of you who say the snow birder don't follow the rules or bad that applies to the full timers also It all depends on the character of the person. Love them or hate them they bring a a lot of tourist money into Fl. and I'm sure that's one of the reason there is no state income tax

Of course I cannot say for sure, but I have a hunch that "snowbirds" were being vilified when the current "historic" sections of The Villages were shiny and new.

It is a pretty common phenomenon and is certainly not limited to The Villages, Florida, etc. As an example my sister and her family live in Las Vegas. Some years back Las Vegas suffered the beginnings of an inundation of Californians which continues to this day. There seems to be a mindset among them, that somehow Las Vegas now belongs to them. Bumper stickers saying "You've seen Las Vegas--now go HOME" are prevalent. People moving to Las Vegas from anywhere BUT California certainly do not seem to be welcomed by the current crop of transplanted Californians living there.

It is not much different here, really. Just judging from the posts here there seems to be a pretty significant number of current Villages residents who see snowbirds (as well as other people moving to The Villages) as somehow raining on their little piece of heaven. Which in my opinion is precisely the WRONG attitude, if for no other reason than the kind of people The Villages attracts. Villagers as a rule are more highly-educated, significantly more well-off and far less apt to be living off any kind of government largesse than are people moving to other parts of the country. I come from such an area: the population of Minnesota, numbers-wise, is relatively stable, but that fact merely obscures that the people moving FROM Minnesota are taking their jobs (or retirement income), their taxpaying abilities, purchasing power and respect for law and order with them when they move to places like The Villages, while those moving TO Minnesota in large part are people for whom devouring tax dollars as a career. It is an untenable situation not just for Minnesota but for numerous other areas of the country as well. It got so bad that some years back, the then-Governor of Florida (I forget who) joked that he was going to send a thank-you card to the then-Governor of Minnesota, to express his appreciation for implementing the policies in Minnesota that were driving so many people with money to his state.

To use an overworked phrase, The Villages, precisely because of the people who call it home, attracts the best and the brightest. We should welcome the new (and seasonally returning) additions to our ranks, because they continue to make The Villages a better place to live for all of us.

[Mosells]

So if snowbirds lived here full time, then the congestion, lack of restaurant space and of course the lack of T times would be FULL TIME.

[Ben Franklin]

I don't think of snowbirds as a class of people. It's human nature that the more congested the area, the higher the stress. If snowbirds became full-timers we would all get used to the crowds and then maybe many of us would move out of TV.

For me it's more of having to endure snowbird drivers who don't know how to keep driving past a golf cart. Some drivers slow down so as to allow the golf cart to stay ahead of them. It's trying to enter the round abouts, when the SBs don't know how to use them, so they become super slow drivers, or they come to a complete stop, while in the inside lane, because they missed their turn off. Or they turn onto roads right in front of you and go 30 MPH when the speed limit is posted as 45MPH.

It's about not being able to get into your favorite restaurant during season. Snowbirds would feel the same way, if our roles were reversed. It has nothing to do with you personally, and everything about the added inconvenience.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by DAVES

We tend to use words such as despised to the point that they are meaningless. Awesome is a clear example that seems to be gone-I HOPE. When, everything is awesome, nothing is. As far as snowbirds, it is a bit of an invasion. I only have xxxxxx weeks and it is costing me $$$$$$$$$. Sadly, this is true with too many things. HURRY UP AND RELAX.

I do not think the word "awesome" has lost its punch. I like the word and I use it rarely when I really, really, really, really mean something is........let me find a good word..........AWESOME!!!

[perrjojo]

I don’t know anyone who despises Snowbirds. We just,like to complain when it gets more crowded.

[Flyers999]

This year I like them. It means things are back to "normal."

[Bizdoc]

In a single phrase "Back home __________".

No, they aren't "back home". If it so wonderful "back home", why are you here?

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

I honestly don't get it, why are TV snowbirds so despised? Can you explain it to us and help us understand what the divide is all about? Thank you.

We have several friends that are SEASONAL. Don't really like the term snowbirds.