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I was a snowbird, now a frog. I do see why SOME renter snowbirds annoy SOME folks, they don't own here and some do not care like people who OWN property do. I do so like the summer when traffic drops and things aren't so "busy". But we have many friends are snowbirds or even come less than that, and they are treasured. |
The Villages treasures snowbirds.
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I run several leagues in TV, snowbirds want to join my leagues, the problem is they come to TV after we start play and all slots are filled. And if I do let them in they leave before the league is over and now I am short people. Many get verbally abusive to me. |
Snowbirds are a blessing. I have rented to several and they kept my place very clean. I sympathize with the hard core golfers who have trouble getting their preferred tee times but 8 months out of the year it is not a problem.
They are a big reason why the word has gotten out and made The Villages as special as it is. The only problem I see with the Snowbirds is that there is not more of them. |
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Here's a hint: it has nothing to do with how many months of the year they live here. It has everything to do with them, personally. Buttholes come in many shapes and sizes, from all cultures, in every color, in every income group, and live here both short term and long term, seasonally and year-round. Entitlement knows no boundaries, I've observed. All you need is to think that your freedoms are more important than their rights, and you have the makings of a butthole. |
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Many snowbirds/snowflakes are tadpoles that eventually turn into frogs. Meanwhile they pay a year's worth of fees, taxes, as well as other expenses for part time residency and spend a lot of money locally when they are down, keeping merchants, restaurants, medical practices, bank branches and food stores open and in business year round. Their presence thus supplements us frogs' cost of living in various ways.
I have resided in several areas that draw tourists. For years I lived in the Washington, D.C area and learned to look out for the driving of vehicles having other than, DC, MD or VA license plates. DC or course has circles and angled thoroughfares as we all know. When I rented a car for the first time in Barbados I found out rental cars have special plates so locals can watch out for them. Most Americans are used to driving on the right side of the road, not the left side, ie., the correct side (little British humor).. |
I don't think it's so much the "SNOW BIRDS" who own a home. Who cares when they come and go! I think it's the renters that people may have a problem with, although I'm sure most of them are respectful towards the property and area. Some just might not know the rules of the road. LOL
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Thats the answer hope it helps |
Doubt there are as many who despise snowbirds as it may seem. Itâs just that social media attracts the complainers
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But, how do you know they are a snowbird?
Since 07, you meet someone new, usually first questions are where are you from, what did you retire from, and what village do you live in. When our parents came to use our homes, never did they say they were renting. Because they werenât, renting, but using one of homes that we bought just for that purpose. So unless there is a sticker on someoneâs forehead how do you distinguish? Do you just assume because they are not living up to your expectations they are not a frog? Have to be honest, I have played golf with some really nice people, and not so nice, scary, not so scary drivers, rude and really nice people. Unless you ask, how do you know they are a snowbird, or a renter. If they answer to either one, does your opinion change so much that you become the not so nice person? |
As many of you know, I particularly dislike being looked down on by people who are younger than me, just because I am older. (I truly know I have a lot of annoying qualities but I have always had them.)
Here is a blog about OLDER snow birds from a younger person. Hmmmpf. I say. Open Letter To Florida’s Snowbirds – Funnier In Writing |
I think snowbirds are great. I call them winter residents. Without our winter residents we could not have the things we have. You continue to contribute to taxes, amenities and beauty in our neighborhoods. Sure it becomes congested in the winter, but in my eyes, you are most welcome. We look forward to our friends coming back each year. Donât take the derogatory statements to seriously. If people werenât commenting about you, it would be someone else.
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OP, are you referring to "rental" snowbirds, or homeowners (residents) who snowbird in the winter? The 3- or 4-month renters may be the ones who bring the wrath of non-snowbirds for whatever reason...
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Years ago when I was visiting my then snowbird father, in Bonita Springs, he was driving along with his Ohio license plate, on Tamiami Trail, not really going particularly slowly, when a local in a pick-up truck roared by in the left lane, stuck his middle finger across the passenger side of his truck and yelled through the open window..." F-YOU, YOU YANKEE A$$****!!!!", to which my dad giggled and said, "Man, I do hate it when they call me a Yankee."
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That February 16, 2012 letter to FL snowbirds is hilarious. Open Letter To Florida’s Snowbirds – Funnier In Writing |
You are so RIGHT!
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Most of the negative comments regarding snowbirds come from year round residents that are spoiled during the summer when things are less congested, restaurants less busy and tee times a little easier to obtain. My wife and I are in TV for about 9 months each year. We consider ourselves "seasonal residents" because we continue to pay our utilities and amenity fees during our 90 day trips north. To us the term snowbird applies primarily to folks that rent for 3 - 4 months during the winter. Either way there is a fixed number of "homes" and they are occupied at a higher rate during the cold seasons. That's pretty much why we are all here. The missus and I adjust by going to dinner earlier, scheduling shopping excursions during less busy times, leaving a little earlier and being patient. There is room here for everyone, try looking at the great lifestyle we enjoy even during busy times. It's a hoot and we are all blessed to be enjoying it.
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To us, they are NOT despised, after all, most of us were at one time snowbirds or renters. For us itâs more of a fun saying my wife and I use when we see a gate knocked down, half hour wait for dinner, town square parking filled, etc. it could be June or July and we will smile and say âDamn Snowbirdsâ. Itâs sort of our way to make fun of the few real aholes that put them down. We also do it when people jump on the great developers and family of this wonderful place we call home. They bitch about something and call them âGreedy Developersâ so we turn it around when we see a new rec center or restaurant opening an smile and say âGreedy Developersâ. When something new is tried, the snakes come out and blame the Family,
Stop and think, if it were not for the family trying new things, then seeing what works and what doesnât , we would all still be living in another Florida Trailer Park. So next time you hear the term Snowbird, smile and be thankful for them, many of them will be future Villagers and keep this place growing and vibrant. Yes, there will always be âNegative Nelliesâ but donât give them the power to take your joy and fun away. Most are just lonely, miserable people who see the glass as half empty. We all knew kids like that back in school. Some never grow up unfortunately. Smile everyone, in five months, a new wave of Snowbirds will be here, some perpetual, some new, and some last timers. And in 4 short months, they are gone, then who will the negative souls blame for their unhappy lives? Enjoy life, it is short lived at this stage of our lives, why not make the best of it? We are proud to call this place home, and love âLiving the Lifestyle â. đđđđ |
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Well said!
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Pay for 12 months and enjoy for 3 is not taking advantage
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Given the overwhelmingly positive responses, I have to believe disdain for Snowbirds is not pervasive in TV. I appreciate all the responses, including those who honestly expressed their negative feelings toward Snowbirds. You've made points that I hadn't considered. To the 3 who expressed their negative feelings toward me personally, I don't know but I think your posts say more about you. And to all of you who have no issues with Snowbirds, you made my day.Thank you!!
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Being a royal ass is not the sole provenance of part-time residents. Consider they probably learned it from some of the full-timers, who've been here long enough to be pros at it. |
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Through our original lifestyle visit, and a one month rental the next year, we were welcomed and treated very friendly by everyone we encountered. Definitely the most often shared advice was to rent first to determine which area(s) would be best for us.
We are now homeowners in TV, and after reading all the posts on this thread, I thought it fitting to point out that MOST "full timers" we have met have at one time been a renter, and/or seasonal owner. After months of reading TOTV for information, I understand why the OP and others asked/commented about this topic. I haven't seen a thread devoted to it before, but it winds its way through many discussions. But I have yet to feel hostility from any live person. And we hit the jackpot on our neighborhood of welcoming & friendly neighbors. I have now experienced TV in both the peak season and summer. I enjoyed both. I enjoyed the more relaxed feel in the summer, and not having to show up to the square early for a good seat or dinner. But I also enjoyed the energy of the square when it's packed. We learned to just park in a parking lot behind the businesses and enjoy what we came for - that eliminates the hassle, and fortunately, we are blessed to still be very mobile so the extra walking is good for us. The traffic, of course, is heavier, but we try to follow the speed limit, the proper roundabout pattern (with a defensive eye always), and leave early enough to avoid feeling rushed. So my summation is, TV is a GREAT and friendly place. I thank all Villagers for their warm welcome and hospitality, whether you are a snowbird, a snowflake, a frog, OR a grouch! |
I have no Iâll feelings for the snowbirds. Some of my good friends are snowbirds
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Then, we rented for two months, from Christmas thru the end of February. During that time, we purchased a home. No one, and I mean absolutely no one, we met, was anything less than kind to us during either visit. We've been back twice since then, once moving in a bunch of furniture, having the house painted, etc, and again last week for a quick vacation... Each time we came back, we would take nightly walks and introduce ourselves to our new neighbors... Our new neighbors were quick with a "Welcome back! How long are you staying? Let's do dinner!" My wife and I have already found respective golf groups (still looking for a championship group), and She's joined some clubs and exercise groups... Put out good vibes and they'll come back in spades... |
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There are always the arrogant that think their opinion is superior to all others, so if is such a problem for you, go to some other 'Perfect" location!!!
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