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mike1946 07-09-2021 05:13 AM
Somehow the USA Government instills a hatred of 'Snowbirds' I have to jump through hoops to get a visa for more than 90 days (and pay big bucks for it - plus time to go to the embassy). The DMV cancel my licence on the day I leave after a stay. The DMV also suspended my licence because my insurance on the car ran out and I didn't renew it because I'm 4000 miles away and not driving the car (it's up on tire savers and connected to a battery charger under cover) now they want $150 to renew my licence and remove the marker ???? AND although I'm fully vacinated the USA border is closed to me and my house is just sitting there ...and i'm paying all the taxes insurance utilities and amenity fee for no benefit. I'm feeling kindda miserable about all of this

golfing eagles 07-09-2021 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mike1946 (Post 1970391)
Somehow the USA Government instills a hatred of 'Snowbirds' I have to jump through hoops to get a visa for more than 90 days (and pay big bucks for it - plus time to go to the embassy). The DMV cancel my licence on the day I leave after a stay. The DMV also suspended my licence because my insurance on the car ran out and I didn't renew it because I'm 4000 miles away and not driving the car (it's up on tire savers and connected to a battery charger under cover) now they want $150 to renew my licence and remove the marker ???? AND although I'm fully vacinated the USA border is closed to me and my house is just sitting there ...and i'm paying all the taxes insurance utilities and amenity fee for no benefit. I'm feeling kindda miserable about all of this
Just go to Mexico, then cross.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: The border is wide open from the south. Canada, not so much.
(PS: license, vaccinated, and kind of:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:)

turnercw 07-09-2021 05:33 AM
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Bethwill 07-09-2021 05:39 AM
Personally I can't stand the entitled attitude that a lot of snowbirds display, along with the urgency on the roadways. Prices go up every fall so that the developers can further line their already bulging pockets, and frankly a lot of snowbirds are rude. I have some great snowbird friends, that do not act as I described. I do believe if the developers would quit lying about expansion, that part of the animosity would subside.

th2142a 07-09-2021 05:41 AM
That sounds racist to me.
 
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1969727)
Because it is human nature to despise anyone who is different from us.
That sounds racist to me

Roosmom 07-09-2021 05:41 AM
I’m a full timer but I haven’t noticed any angst against snowbirds. In fact many people refer to SB for distinction, as in, “my snowbird friends”, meaning, you can join the group when you’re here. I’ve not heard one negative reference. I’ve found that some folks just have to complain, if it’s not about snowbirds it will be about something or someone else. Just consider the source and live your life your way.

golfing eagles 07-09-2021 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bethwill (Post 1970406)
Personally I can't stand the entitled attitude that a lot of snowbirds display, along with the urgency on the roadways. Prices go up every fall so that the developers can further line their already bulging pockets, and frankly a lot of snowbirds are rude. I have some great snowbird friends, that do not act as I described. I do believe if the developers would quit lying about expansion, that part of the animosity would subside.
What on God's green Earth does the like or dislike of snowbirds have to do with the "developer"????? What does the price of a home have to do with snowbirds???? What does "expansion" have to do with any of it??????

Back about circa 1915 early psychiatrists developed diagnostic criteria for various mental disorders. One was called "loosening of associations" and another was "reality testing". My specialty is not psychiatry, but looking at that post I wonder if the criteria have been met:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

noslices1 07-09-2021 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1969714)
I honestly don't get it, why are TV snowbirds so despised? Can you explain it to us and help us understand what the divide is all about? Thank you.
I love the snowbirds. If it weren’t for them, we wouldn’t have all the restaurants that we have and all the shopping areas that we have, because we would only have half the population that we have.

Beyond The Wall 07-09-2021 06:09 AM
And no “full time villager” even ever rolls through a stop sign ,golfs slowly, or backs out of parking lot spot without looking?! Please !

JMintzer 07-09-2021 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bethwill (Post 1970406)
Personally I can't stand the entitled attitude that a lot of snowbirds display, along with the urgency on the roadways. Prices go up every fall so that the developers can further line their already bulging pockets, and frankly a lot of snowbirds are rude. I have some great snowbird friends, that do not act as I described. I do believe if the developers would quit lying about expansion, that part of the animosity would subside.
What does the developer have to do with any of this???

JMintzer 07-09-2021 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by th2142a (Post 1970409)
That sounds racist to me
Only if you think of "different" as racial... That's your problem...

Lynnesail 07-09-2021 06:18 AM
Why do people have to be called names at all?

Beyond The Wall 07-09-2021 06:18 AM
Taste like chicken? Cute. They drive faster because most are younger and can still turn their heads to see where they are going, Resturant’s in Florida are all empty in the warmer season, because half the state leaves. Try going off campus for a meal, use open table or rsty to make a reservation. Works every time.

Beyond The Wall 07-09-2021 06:20 AM
Best post on subject

rlcooper70 07-09-2021 07:20 AM
Ha ha .... great question. You would think they would love us - we pay taxes and don't use the amenities half of the year .... we are perfect neighbors.

MikeandAnn 07-09-2021 07:31 AM
He wasn’t talking about what you pay or that you don’t use the place in the summer. It was about their attitude and you kind of proved his point. Everyone just relax and have fun, you are in The Villages playing around. It shouldn’t matter how long you are here just have fun.

Jtcoggin@bellsouth.net 07-09-2021 08:06 AM
Snowbirds
 
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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1969714)
I honestly don't get it, why are TV snowbirds so despised? Can you explain it to us and help us understand what the divide is all about? Thank you.
I would not say snowbirds are despised. I would say full time residents are annoyed by snowbirds creating congestion and hazards on the roadways, and long lines at restaurants, squares, and other gathering locations. Examples: Many snowbirds do not know how to negotiate roundabouts which creates hazards. Snowbirds always are in a rush by driving too fast on the roadways and multi-modal paths. At the squares, snowbirds seem to just take over the squares by reserving seating areas, blocking off sidewalk areas with their chairs, coolers, and bags placed in a large circular area. And forget going to a restaurant during normal dining hours...way too crowded, long lines, and rushed food service resulting in poorly prepared meals.

graciegirl 07-09-2021 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bethwill (Post 1970406)
Personally I can't stand the entitled attitude that a lot of snowbirds display, along with the urgency on the roadways. Prices go up every fall so that the developers can further line their already bulging pockets, and frankly a lot of snowbirds are rude. I have some great snowbird friends, that do not act as I described. I do believe if the developers would quit lying about expansion, that part of the animosity would subside.
Ummm. They have snowbirds in Miami too. And in Phoenix.

Seamus6 07-09-2021 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1970528)
Ummm. They have snowbirds in Miami too. And in Phoenix.
I can't imagine why nobody comes to my stinking state as a snowbird! heheh

Guitarman1951 07-09-2021 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bandsdavis (Post 1969745)
So here's my 2 cents. I think 90% of all full-time Villagers do not resent or hate snowbirds. It's the other 10% who have nothing better to do than complain about a number of things that makes it seem that way. No, I can't "prove" the % I used. It's a gut feel after living here (fulltime) for 9 years. I occasionally will have a conversation with someone who disparages snowbirds, but those discussions are extremely rare. I have been the leader for 2 large groups (150 people plus each) that have included both fulltime and snowbird residents. I've never heard of anyone in those groups who have not been excited to welcome our snowbirds back. So take the complaints with a grain of salt, and remember if you are basing your thoughts on what you read here and on other social media, you are getting an extremely small sample size, and one that in my opinion tends overall to be slanted toward the negative about such topics.
Absolutely agree!! I like all my snowbird neighbors, hate to see them leave and glad when they return!!

justjim 07-09-2021 09:04 AM
Snowbirds/Sunbirds
 
There is a new term (nickname) that I’ve found which fits a number of Florida residents. SUNBIRDS! Sunbirds are residents who own property here and go north or other places during the summer. There are many of em’ living here in The Villages. :coolsmiley:

Spalumbos62 07-09-2021 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mike1946 (Post 1970391)
Somehow the USA Government instills a hatred of 'Snowbirds' I have to jump through hoops to get a visa for more than 90 days (and pay big bucks for it - plus time to go to the embassy). The DMV cancel my licence on the day I leave after a stay. The DMV also suspended my licence because my insurance on the car ran out and I didn't renew it because I'm 4000 miles away and not driving the car (it's up on tire savers and connected to a battery charger under cover) now they want $150 to renew my licence and remove the marker ???? AND although I'm fully vacinated the USA border is closed to me and my house is just sitting there ...and i'm paying all the taxes insurance utilities and amenity fee for no benefit. I'm feeling kindda miserable about all of this

Wow.that does suck!
Hopefully you could rent the fl place out.

OhioBuckeye 07-09-2021 09:18 AM
Ohiobuckeye
 
I understand that snowbirds would be a little upset. They pay to have their yards mow, pay Amenities for 4,5 or 6 months then can’t play golf & do several other things when they do come. But in defense of the yr. round residents, snowbirds have to know play time in the south is when it’s winter in the north. When do the snowbirds think everyone comes to Florida? So the solution is sell your place, or be a full time resident in TV yr. round. I lived in Ohio & living in the north I didn’t miss a thing.

JMintzer 07-09-2021 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeandAnn (Post 1970503)
He wasn’t talking about what you pay or that you don’t use the place in the summer. It was about their attitude and you kind of proved his point. Everyone just relax and have fun, you are in The Villages playing around. It shouldn’t matter how long you are here just have fun.
What point was that?

JMintzer 07-09-2021 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jtcoggin@bellsouth.net (Post 1970527)
I would not say snowbirds are despised. I would say full time residents are annoyed by snowbirds creating congestion and hazards on the roadways, and long lines at restaurants, squares, and other gathering locations. Examples: Many snowbirds do not know how to negotiate roundabouts which creates hazards. Snowbirds always are in a rush by driving too fast on the roadways and multi-modal paths. At the squares, snowbirds seem to just take over the squares by reserving seating areas, blocking off sidewalk areas with their chairs, coolers, and bags placed in a large circular area. And forget going to a restaurant during normal dining hours...way too crowded, long lines, and rushed food service resulting in poorly prepared meals.
You mean the very same things people are complaining about now, 2 months after they've left? (except the restaurant part...)

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-09-2021 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Beyond The Wall (Post 1970443)
Best post on subject
Which post is that? You need to click the "reply" button connected to a specific post, or else it won't quote the post you're referring to and no one will know.

You could also reference a post number by just typing it into your response.

Spalumbos62 07-09-2021 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bethwill (Post 1970406)
Personally I can't stand the entitled attitude that a lot of snowbirds display, along with the urgency on the roadways. Prices go up every fall so that the developers can further line their already bulging pockets, and frankly a lot of snowbirds are rude. I have some great snowbird friends, that do not act as I described. I do believe if the developers would quit lying about expansion, that part of the animosity would subside.

I am just rereading these post again this morning and ya know what...you full timers can stick it where the sun doesn't shine!! How dare you..we pay as much as you do every month, that is our village, equally. Your dispise for us is childish, rude, selfish and totally wrong. You are lucky you are not charged more for amenities while we are away.
This message does not go out to everyone, of course, but the ones that responded that they hate/dislike etc,etc us returning...shame on you.

graciegirl 07-09-2021 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1970571)
There is a new term (nickname) that I’ve found which fits a number of Florida residents. SUNBIRDS! Sunbirds are residents who own property here and go north or other places during the summer. There are many of em’ living here in The Villages. :coolsmiley:
Don't forget the ones who are seasonal residents in the Fruitland Park area of The Villages are called;


Fruit flies.

graciegirl 07-09-2021 09:40 AM
The people who live here year 'round are those whose grandchildren are not small anymore or they have none. Those people are called FROGS and we are here 'til we croak as we all know.

P.S. I found this, just now;

The Florida Frogs are one of the rare true frogs that can be found solely in the western parts of Florida. These frogs mostly occur in seepages or sluggish backwaters that have sand at the bottom. They have a light green body and display sexual dimorphism, wherein the males are smaller than their female counterparts and have a yellow throat.

juddfl 07-09-2021 09:51 AM
I'm here full time and I agree with your statement. They pay just as much as I do, but they are gone for part of the year. They could be here all the time (like me) and I bet people would really complain about traffic all year long instead of just winter season. Love the snowbirds!!!

JMintzer 07-09-2021 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1970591)
Which post is that? You need to click the "reply" button connected to a specific post, or else it won't quote the post you're referring to and no one will know.

You could also reference a post number by just typing it into your response.
It was most likely in reference to one of my posts...

They recognize greatness when they see it! :icon_wink:

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-09-2021 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1970624)
It was most likely in reference to one of my posts...

They recognize greatness when they see it! :icon_wink:
Weird. I was sure it was one of mine, since I'm an expert on everything and always right.

golfing eagles 07-09-2021 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1970645)
Weird. I was sure it was one of mine, since I'm an expert on everything and always right.
No, that's me you're describing:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Laker14 07-09-2021 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1970624)
It was most likely in reference to one of my posts...

They recognize greatness when they see it! :icon_wink:
2nd greatest post of all time!!!!

boatorgolf 07-09-2021 10:48 AM
Snowbirds have every right to be here and enjoy their homes and community!! Many of my friends are snowbirds.
The only reason I don’t look forward to their arrival :
Grocery store shelves bare at Walmart, etc. Not snowbirds fault
Can’t get Tee Times, not their fault. New homes but not enough new Facilities ..😫
Roads congested. Not their fault. Morse and Buena Vista only main artery’s North and South - can’t handle
On and on !
Welcome Snowbirds 😎

Janhug123 07-09-2021 11:28 AM
Personally I love when the snowbirds return🥰 I find my street way too quiet and a bit lonely when they are “home”. We FROGS need some excitement in our everyday lives…just sayin…….

perrjojo 07-09-2021 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kahuna32162 (Post 1970099)
That's not "human nature", that's called RACISM.
There are many ways people can be different besides racism.

Velvet 07-09-2021 01:53 PM
Coming from a large busy city, I prefer the quiet time myself. It is relaxing and peaceful mostly because of fewer people around.

Red Rose 07-09-2021 02:11 PM
When I was a Snowbird, I felt insulted when anybody said I was one because it always felt like a putdown until one day a full time friend said to me, being called a "Snowbird" isn't so bad. Look at me. I'm a "Frog". I said "What does that mean?" She said "It means I'm here till I croak". I didn't like that at all!! So, from then on being called a Snowbird didn't bother me anymore and as of a few years ago, I am now a Frog.

Bent Tree 07-09-2021 02:45 PM
It might be the reason you just stated. Think about how negative you were…just saying.
I do not have anything against snowbirds as long as they have good manners..welcome any time.


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