[biker1]

The old Katie Belle’s did have a minimum you had to spend for some performances. Some performances also had a charge for each seat at a table. I am not sure what the new Katie Belle’s was doing in that regard. The old Katie Belle’s was a lot of fun with the right band. I saw Uncle Bob there a number of times.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Gets me that people say that Katie Belles closed due to people coming in and not ordering anything.

All management had to do is have a certain minimum charge per person and the problem goes away.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by biker1

The old Katie Belle’s did have a minimum you had to spend for some performances. Some performances also had a charge for each seat at a table. I am not sure what the new Katie Belle’s was doing in that regard. The old Katie Belle’s was a lot of fun with the right band. I saw Uncle Bob there a number of times.

The old Katie Belle's did go to a minimum when there was entertainment, attendance decreased whenever they applied the charge. Reconfiguring allowed less space but evidently they couldn't make the business plan.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by KRM0614

Nothing will change. Money is the pivotal driver in everything here. There may have been a vision 40 yrs ago however TV strayed from that exponentially. The lack of honesty the aggressive sales tactics the control of the messaging thru media just makes the vision merely that. Everything here is nothing like the commercials.

All a matter of opinion.....assume you stay because a significant other like it here?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Dream on! Not in our life time.

Better tell Tesla' sElon Musk that! Tell that boy that he is just wastig his time. Maybe some believe that loud noises are good for people. Science says otherwise. Learn science or live in a dark age forever.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

A apartment or two fine, but they will be popping up like assisted living on every corner. At some point this will affect resales. So, if you can’t sale you’re home you can’t move into apartments. Laugh now but wait when they pop up of CR42 in open fields, polo fields, glenview, lopez, and work way south when developers properties become to runs down and defunct?

Not to worry. No worries mate. We all will be paying our amenity fees in heaven or the warm whatever.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I liked Katie Belles, as did a lot of people. I was a fun place. But you are right. The developer gets to "dictate"! And that makes us......What?

A customer. Free to buy or not any product or service offered for sale. Don't like it? Move on.

[npwalters]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Gets me that people say that Katie Belles closed due to people coming in and not ordering anything.

All management had to do is have a certain minimum charge per person and the problem goes away.

I'm with you. We visited Katie Belles several times and enjoyed it. I can promise you that my table, nor any of the tables near us, were ordering water with lemon. There was always a wait list in the high season. I'm sure the overhead vs income was the deciding factor but sure did hate to see it go.

[biker1]

The several times I was at the old Katie Belle's, with minimum charges and seat charges, were completely sold out. I can't speak to the new Katie Belles's - was never really interested in going there.

Originally Posted by JoMar

The old Katie Belle's did go to a minimum when there was entertainment, attendance decreased whenever they applied the charge. Reconfiguring allowed less space but evidently they couldn't make the business plan.

[WindyCityzen]

It’s a five person board, correct? Three votes would be a majority. Did they shrink the board size in the One Sumter plan? I’m confused what’s wrong.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Somewhat surprisingly, the three candidates that challenged the three developer-supported Incumbents for positions as Sumter County Commissioners won the Republican Primary convincingly. The challengers will have to win the General Election in November, and there will be lots of developer-designed and funded challenges, probably for write-in candidates. The upcoming weeks will be interesting as this will be the first time in at least a decade when the Sumter County Board won’t be cleanly “in the pocket” of The Villages Developer.

What’s at risk for the Developer? Lots of things. Without a lot of study, how about...

—A repeal of the major change which has the new roads and infrastructure in the new southern end of The Villages funded by the taxpayers rather than the Developer as had been the practice until this year. The result of the change was a 25% increase in property taxes. The challengers all ran with the repeal of those tax increases as a major plank in their platforms.

—The possible repeal of the “One Sumter” procedure for the election of County Commissioners. The change in the electoral process goes back almost fifteen years and was designed and sponsored by the Developer. The result of the electoral change was that the County Board could be controlled by three members, all of whom have turned out to be choices of the Developer and financed by them. The result of course was pretty much complete control of the Board in getting anything the Developer wanted approved.

—There are lots of other decisions facing the County Commissioners that will effect all Villages residents living in Sumter County (the vast majority of us). Not the least important issue might be approval of the re-zoning of the Hacienda Hills CC parcel to permit the construction of a high-rise 286-unit apartment building.

So it’ll probably be important for all of us to begin to pay lots more attention to local Sumter County politics. You can be certain that the Developer will be very creative approaching the General Election and beyond, trying to regain control of the Sumter County Board. Keeping local politics in the control of the taxpayers will take our collective, continual attention.

Little late IMO should of happen 4 or 5 years ago. But, that don’t mean it would of fixed anything or made it better or worse? We’ll see what future hold?

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by KRM0614

Nothing will change. Money is the pivotal driver in everything here. There may have been a vision 40 yrs ago however TV strayed from that exponentially. The lack of honesty the aggressive sales tactics the control of the messaging thru media just makes the vision merely that. Everything here is nothing like the commercials.

WTH are you talking about with the “aggressive sales tactics”? Give examples of how you’re feelings were hurt....

We just bought our 2nd home from The Villages last week and never during the purchase of either home were we pressured to buy or were told anything that wasn’t actual fact.

Some of you need to GROW UP and quit whining about everything.

This is life; it’s not Disneyland.

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by WindyCityzen

It’s a five person board, correct? Three votes would be a majority. Did they shrink the board size in the One Sumter plan? I’m confused what’s wrong.

It is, indeed, a five-person Commission. Therefore, the EMS team, when elected in November, will constitute a majority. One Sumter did not affect the size of the Board.

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

Hacienda Hills... The Developer wants to build a nice apartment complex with a pool (SWIM UP BAR) and restaurant. All residents have access. Or... you can have a parking lot. You don't get to dictate what is on that site. (Neither do the new commissioners).

Remember Katie Bell's? You want the Developer to build a restaurant for Villagers so they can order a water with lemon and split the entree.

So many people complain that The Developer is abandoning the older sections of The Villages. The Developer is willing to provide housing for some of the older residents that don't want the maintenance of a house anymore. The complex will feature a new pool and a new restaurant.

But many of you don't want that. You would prefer a parking lot.

So you expect the older residents who are probably living with a paid off mortgage and no bond to want to move into apartments that cost about $1700 for a one bedroom one bath unit, extra for covered parking just so they can have a swim up bar????

and the old Katie Bell's was always packed with people at the bar. one of the few places in The Villages opened late and there seemed to be some heavy drinking. as someone once said, anyone with a liquor license can make money.

[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

So you expect the older residents who are probably living with a paid off mortgage and no bond to want to move into apartments that cost about $1700 for a one bedroom one bath unit, extra for covered parking just so they can have a swim up bar????

and the old Katie Bell's was always packed with people at the bar. one of the few places in The Villages opened late and there seemed to be some heavy drinking. as someone once said, anyone with a liquor license can make money.

Have you priced Independent Living Facilities? $1700 is a bargain. Plus... you still have access to all Villages amenities.

I know a few people (in their early 80's) that think the Brownwood Lofts are very appealing.

And I don't think people are going to move to the apartments for the swim up bar. I'm saying that as a Villager resident with access to the apartment amenities, I'M interested in the swim up bar.

[pauld315]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I though that Hacienda Hills CC was in Lake county.

Unless Sumter County was inspecting restaurants in Lake County, then you were incorrect in your thinking.

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