[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by mulligan

The visitor must have a guest pass to use any facility (pool etc.), and they are issued in 30 day increments.

Thank you for that info. Appreciate it.

[elevatorman]

The restrictions are there and can be enforced. This article explains how the law came about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age-restricted_community
This one explains the HOPA law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing...er_Persons_Act
This one is also helpful in understanding the law.
http://www.manufacturedhousing.org/p...10&article=120

[skyguy79]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

Funny. How would they go about taking the baby away from the parents?
First of all, they probably should not allow people under the 55 to purchase if they are of child rearing age.........

I cannot believe TV has the "power" to evict a baby born to someone who bought a resale.

Does anyone know for sure??

Really....who counts the days of each grandchild's visit so that they know when the 30 days timeframe has expired. I'm serious. Thanks.......

SC, they don't take the baby away from the parents. The parents and baby would be required to vacate the property under the authority of the deed restrictions - no exceptions. We all know there are these restrictions when purchasing or at least should know. So if someone has this problem after purchasing a home, they don't have a complaint since they entered into the deed restrictions with eyes wide open. As they say, ignorance is not excuse under the law!

As for your last question, there are a few ways they could find out as far as I know. One would be neighbors who might complain. I do emphasize might! The other would be if they obtained a guest pass for the underaged individual.

[Ohio RailGirl]

My cousins live in a 55+ community in Tavares. Their neighbor divorced and married a much younger woman. She became pregnant and they were told they had to move. When the baby was born they did move but their house didn't sell for a long time and they lost a lot of money as well.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by skyguy79

SC, they don't take the baby away from the parents. The parents and baby would be required to vacate the property under the authority of the deed restrictions - no exceptions. We all know there are these restrictions when purchasing or at least should know. So if someone has this problem after purchasing a home, they don't have a complaint since they entered into the deed restrictions with eyes wide open. As they say, ignorance is not excuse under the law!

As for your last question, there are a few ways they could find out as far as I know. One would be neighbors who might complain. I do emphasize might! The other would be if they obtained a guest pass for the underaged individual.

Ayup........we just read all the laws. Good to know. Protects the neighbors.

At 66, we will not be having any more babies, that's for sure. What made me wonder was after reading that people of "any age" can buy the resales.

So, who actually evicts the family? Like a court order? What if they refused to leave? We've never heard of anything like this before. What if they can't sell the house.........and thus, have no place to go.........being in their twenties or thirties and house poor? This is a hypothetical question. Has it ever actually happened in TV?

Our daughter in law did send us the bylaws to read before we enter into any contracts......actually, we have a very angelic 4 month old grandaughter who never screams and cries. Very contented baby.

We live in a neighborhood where everyone is our age and actually when all their grandchildren visit, we never hear a thing. People respect other's properties and "hours of rest and relaxation". Guess it's just a silent thing as we all turn in early. Not to say that the grandparents aren't exhausted after all the fun and games and happiness floating around. Thanks again.

[skyguy79]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

At 66, we will not be having any more babies, that's for sure. What made me wonder was after reading that people of "any age" can buy the resales.

So, who actually evicts the family? Like a court order? What if they refused to leave? We've never heard of anything like this before. What if they can't sell the house.........and thus, have no place to go.........being in their twenties or thirties and house poor? This is a hypothetical question. Has it ever actually happened in TV?

I can't answer all of your questions but I can tell you that the deed restrictions state that the developer is the party that determine who under 55 can purchase under a "hardship exemption" as defined within the DR's and depending on the current 80/20% status. As for who actually evicts? I don't know or know if it's ever happened. But I would presume that the developer could obtain an eviction order from the courts if it became necessary. The owner would probably then either have to sell the property or rent it out! You can find an "example" of a deed restriction at the following pdf document and what you'll be looking for is subdivision 2.25 at the bottom of page 3:

http://www.districtgov.org/images/De...207/S7-140.pdf

or if you have a problem with the above link, go to this link where all DR's can be found:

http://www.districtgov.org/departmen...standards.aspx

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by skyguy79

I can't answer all of your questions but I can tell you that the deed restrictions state that the developer is the party that determine who under 55 can purchase under a "hardship exemption" as defined within the DR's and depending on the current 80/20% status. As for who actually evicts? I don't know or know if it's ever happened. But I would presume that the developer could obtain an eviction order from the courts if it became necessary. The owner would probably then either have to sell the property or rent it out! You can find an "example" of a deed restriction at the following pdf document and what you'll be looking for is subdivision 2.25 at the bottom of page 3:

http://www.districtgov.org/images/De...207/S7-140.pdf

or if you have a problem with the above link, go to this link where all DR's can be found:

http://www.districtgov.org/departmen...standards.aspx

Senior. All I can say is that these convenants are enforced. That is the reason we all chose to live here. When you visit it will be clear to you that this place is unlike any other.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by skyguy79

I can't answer all of your questions but I can tell you that the deed restrictions state that the developer is the party that determine who under 55 can purchase under a "hardship exemption" as defined within the DR's and depending on the current 80/20% status. As for who actually evicts? I don't know or know if it's ever happened. But I would presume that the developer could obtain an eviction order from the courts if it became necessary. The owner would probably then either have to sell the property or rent it out! You can find an "example" of a deed restriction at the following pdf document and what you'll be looking for is subdivision 2.25 at the bottom of page 3:

http://www.districtgov.org/images/De...207/S7-140.pdf

or if you have a problem with the above link, go to this link where all DR's can be found:

http://www.districtgov.org/departmen...standards.aspx

Appreciate it. Was just wondering.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Senior. All I can say is that these convenants are enforced. That is the reason we all chose to live here. When you visit it will be clear to you that this place is unlike any other.

Don't worry Gracie.....we have no babies or children moving in with us.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by Ohio RailGirl

My cousins live in a 55+ community in Tavares. Their neighbor divorced and married a much younger woman. She became pregnant and they were told they had to move. When the baby was born they did move but their house didn't sell for a long time and they lost a lot of money as well.

I can well imagine. I think I did read about that case.

There was also a case whereby a family of children lost their parents via death; not sure if it was an accident or what. The grandparents were the only surviving next of kin. What to do? Up here, it would not be a problem to take in the orphans. This can be looked at through many perspectives.

I do "get" the reason for living in an age restricted community, but why would TV even allow "resales" to be sold to people who might conceive a child?

Just thinking aloud.

To me, if it's really 55+ then keep it that way.

There are well behaved intelligent polite children and then there are the ones that drive all of us nuts with the late night skateboarding........which we had in another home we lived in. It all depends on the children I guess.

Thank you.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

I can well imagine. I think I did read about that case.

To me, if it's really 55+ then keep it that way.

.

Thank you.

Federal law won't allow the exclusion.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

Don't worry Gracie.....we have no babies or children moving in with us.

Boy Howdy.

I have a reputation for loving little ones back in Ohio. I taught kindergarten for several decades and LOVED it and loved my students.

but...I like the restrictions here.

[ajbrown]

Here is another thread if you would like more info:

Is this info correct??

The part most misunderstood about the law is people think the 55+ community MUST allow a person under the age of 55 to purchase up to the 20% threshold. This is not correct.

The law states to be a 55+ community it MUST have 80% of the population over the age of 55, but makes no requirement they allow ANYONE under the age of 55.

[Schaumburger]

I am under 55 (a TV wannabee at this point), single, no human kids (I have a fur kid). When I have gone to open houses in TV I have asked both TV sales reps. and MLS real estate agents if I could buy as I'm under 55, single, no kids. I have been told -- no problem, just have extra paperwork to sign acknowledging the rules about no permanent residents under the age of 19.

Last year when I went to an open house in TV, a TV sales rep. told me about a couple over 55 in TV who gained custody of their grandchildren after their child and their child's spouse were killed in a car accident. This couple had to either sell their home in TV, or only occupy their TV home for one month out of the year to be able to abide by the 30 day rule for visitors under the age of 19. The agent didn't know what they decided to do.

[buggyone]

I heard a similar story about a Villager's single child who was a soldier and got killed. The grandparents got custody of the single parent's child who was around 7 or 8. They tried appealing the situation but were told they had to move out of The Villages.

Sounds harsh - but rules are rules. Their neighbors did not buy in The Villages to be next door to children. If you would allow one child who may be extremely well-mannered to stay permanently with grandparents, how would the board justify the same situation with a very loud and ill-mannered child?