[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by David from Denver

The issue is how golf cars can safely cross both SB and NB car traffic lanes on Morse Blvd without having to merge into the SB lane, waiting for NB traffic to clear, then cross.

To accomplish this, I propose:

1) NB gate operations continue as is
2) Move the SB gate back (north) 100-200 ft. (Yes, electricity required)
3) Install video cameras at each corner of building
4) Install and connect Artificial Intelligence (AI) to the cameras
5)Write "IF", "THEN" AI scenarios to control gates, such as:
a) IF 2 or more golf cars have been waiting > 2 minutes, THEN lower BOTH SB and NB gates to allow safe crossing of golf cars of BOTH lanes of car traffic
b) IF only 1 golf car waiting, THEN max wait time is 4 minutes (example only)
c) IF NB Morse starts to back up, THEN .........

These are only a few examples of "IF" "THEN" scenarios that can be imagined, however AI can be programmed for thousands of situations.

I am aware of other challenges, such as 911 vehicles, power outages, car wrecks, etc.
Some of these challenges may be eliminated by maintaining current staffing, using AI only for notification of traffic issues.

6) Install Red/Green signal lights to notify golf cars they can SAFELY cross both lanes of Morse without stopping in the middle median.

This is just a baseline that perhaps someone waaay smarter than me can take and run with.

yeah nice try, more beginner programmer stuff. the first issue is the AI, second is there isn't enough cases to predict the outcome, coding is an absolute nightmare, it's far easier to just move the crossing to the gate like any other area south of 466. that's just the expense of a widening of a smaller section of road. nothing else. Aside from that, if you know of a remote messaging system to put in their golf carts and constantly reminds them of the 'golf cart rules' it might add to the benefit LOL.

[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

This is one of the least expensive over 55 places to live in all the us

since when?

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by BillyGrown

They could ban golf cart traffic, that would be the easiest resolution to the problem. It’s a county road, the county sure isn’t footing the bill. Furthermore, why risk any lawsuits? Just get rid of the problem for free.

Sure, then they could change the tax assessment for all the homes in that area because the decision tanked their values. That would go over like a fart in church.

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

How long has the current set-up been there, 25- 30 years?
How many golf carts/ automobiles accidents have occurred?

Amazingly a very low number as far as I know. I've only witnessed about 10 near misses due to the golf cart drivers cutting in front of the cars hoping the only did it misjudging distance.

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Build a cart path down the north bound lane side? Seems to be the easiest way to protect carts.

That was what should have happened to begin with but for whatever reason the 2 way path ended at Soledad.

[justjim]

There was at least one fatality on Morse north of 466 several years ago. As I remember, the golf cart turned directly in front of the car and a male in the golf cart was fatally injured. In a thread a few years ago, a post said 12 fatalities in golf carts have occurred in The Villages. You would have to research back to the to the beginnings of The villages with all municipalities and all three counties to attempt to find accurate data on golf cart fatalities in The Villages. I seriously doubt if anybody has attempted such a task and if any such records are kept or exist.

I know for sure a number of years ago two ladies were traveling ln a golf cart adjacent to 466a near Sarasota golf course when a car jumped the curb on 466a and the two ladies tragically did not survive. Common sense tells you it’s much safer in a car than in a golf cart, however, The Villages is a golf cart community and for years that has been a “trade mark” and marketing tool of The Villages. Be safe out there…

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by justjim

The Villages is a golf cart community and for years that has been a “trade mark” and marketing tool of The Villages. Be safe out there…

It is also worth remembering that when the community was designed (especially "up north") golf carts probably couldn't go above 20mph (and none came equipped with the extra width of sliding doors).

If you drive your cart as if everywhere had an "official" 20mph limit, and slow down and take extra care when another cart is approaching, you should be alright.

[Topspinmo]

I have safest system, I avoid that gauntlet as all costs.

[shut the front door]

Why are we trying to fix things that aren't broken? EVERY golf cart fatality on Morse north of 466 has occurred much further north and was not caused by this intersection.
You want to make it safe? Tell the golf cart drivers to stop throwing their left arm out of the cart expecting every car to yield to them. Very simple concept.
Do people just sit around and think "what problem can I dream up to post about today?"
Get out and enjoy life! At the end of it, nobody cares that you posted 20,000 times on an internet message board!

[Babbs1957]

A bridge, doesn't have to be super fancy. Just basic prefabricated steel golf course bridge. Cost would be less than recent wasted pickleball purchase. I bring my own golf balls and clubs and pickleball set.

I guess like all road changes, it relies on number of deaths. Once TV hits national news with a cart full of dead visitors, maybe couple of small kids on the back of granddad's cart, they will put up a bridge. 100k vs. a life? Nope, TV residents want new pickleballs. Sad.
Nuff said.

[Bogie Shooter]

35 posts on this old July thread was covered to the nith degree. Let sleeping dogs lie……….

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

35 posts on this old July thread was covered to the nith degree. Let sleeping dogs lie……….

Why? Maybe someone has better idea ?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Babbs1957

A bridge, doesn't have to be super fancy. Just basic prefabricated steel golf course bridge. Cost would be less than recent wasted pickleball purchase. I bring my own golf balls and clubs and pickleball set.

I guess like all road changes, it relies on number of deaths. Once TV hits national news with a cart full of dead visitors, maybe couple of small kids on the back of granddad's cart, they will put up a bridge. 100k vs. a life? Nope, TV residents want new pickleballs. Sad.
Nuff said.

Golfers want more courses. O wait that’s your activity so that makes all the differents.


No golf cart bridge can be built for 15OK. Now if we tap into millions on golf courses maintenance, yes, elevated Vidock bridge can be built all way to spainish springs. With millions left over.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

Why are we trying to fix things that aren't broken? EVERY golf cart fatality on Morse north of 466 has occurred much further north and was not caused by this intersection.
You want to make it safe? Tell the golf cart drivers to stop throwing their left arm out of the cart expecting every car to yield to them. Very simple concept.
Do people just sit around and think "what problem can I dream up to post about today?"
Get out and enjoy life! At the end of it, nobody cares that you posted 20,000 times on an internet message board!

Cars have to yield if golf cart can safely move into turning lane. Problem got these inpatients that speed up so they can be 10 seconds ahead.

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Cars have to yield if golf cart can safely move into turning lane. Problem got these inpatients that speed up so they can be 10 seconds ahead.

Cars DO NOT yield to golf carts who are merging across a car lane.