Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 854840)

I am one of those that got my insurance cancelled not once, but twice. Now it is costing 57% more than before I found coverage that will meet the ACA standards. The policy is NOT superior to my old coverage. In fact I will pay up to 15 times more for 7 of my drugs.

The concept behind the Affordable Care Act was the only good part.

The execution was abominable.

The economics were infeasable.

The fact that it was passed by a congress that did not read it is irrational and reeks of malfeasance.

Theoretically, the best part of the ACA was the pre-existing condition portion. However, the only insureds that can take advantage of that are the poor who will not have to pay anyway or the wealthy that can afford the thousands per year in premiums.

More people will end up UNINSURED after the smoke clears than were uninsured before ACA. Many middle income people may be able to keep some coverage, but they will see a reduced standard of life in order to be able to pay the premiums.

At the end of the day, if you had been working hard to make a good living, you will suffer under the ACA.

Like I said, the Concept of Affordable Health Care is a Wonderful thing! However, taking that Affordable Health Care from one family and giving it to another is a SERIOUSLY FLAWED process.

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 854814)

BTW: The White House just announced enrollments hit 7.041 million before midnight last night, and that doesn't count people enrolled yesterday on state exchanges.

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 854795)

Again, the poll I was speaking of was the 2012 election where the choice between repealing the ACA and keeping it could not have been clearer, and the voters spoke loud and clear that they did not want it repealed.

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 854840)

I am one of those that got my insurance cancelled not once, but twice. Now it is costing 57% more than before I found coverage that will meet the ACA standards. The policy is NOT superior to my old coverage. In fact I will pay up to 15 times more for 7 of my drugs.

The concept behind the Affordable Care Act was the only good part.

The execution was abominable.

The economics were infeasable.

The fact that it was passed by a congress that did not read it is irrational and reeks of malfeasance.

Theoretically, the best part of the ACA was the pre-existing condition portion. However, the only insureds that can take advantage of that are the poor who will not have to pay anyway or the wealthy that can afford the thousands per year in premiums.

More people will end up UNINSURED after the smoke clears than were uninsured before ACA. Many middle income people may be able to keep some coverage, but they will see a reduced standard of life in order to be able to pay the premiums.

At the end of the day, if you had been working hard to make a good living, you will suffer under the ACA.

Like I said, the Concept of Affordable Health Care is a Wonderful thing! However, taking that Affordable Health Care from one family and giving it to another is a SERIOUSLY FLAWED process.

Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 854858)

Does anyone actually believe what the White House says? That's the same White House that told us we could keep our doctor and insurance. None of those enrolled counts until they pay a premium and those number who have actually paid are kept top secret. Only one reason for that.

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 854879)

but like the majority of Americans, I want to know exactly what the 7 million is.
How many that never had insurance.
How many that had their insurance cancelled and are now applying......these do not count you know!
How many are what age?
How many of the applicants are paid?

I don't think some acknowledge that even if an application is accepted and the applicant says OK BUT does not pay, it is not a valid claim.

If you put an item on Amazon in or any other website and do not check out and pay for it.....it is not a sale......even though it remains in the shopping basket.

Let's keep it real simple.........If you need 7 million people with red hats and you get 7 million people but only one million have red hats....the 7 million does not count.

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 854879)

but like the majority of Americans, I want to know exactly what the 7 million is.
How many that never had insurance.
How many that had their insurance cancelled and are now applying......these do not count you know!
How many are what age?
How many of the applicants are paid?

I don't think some acknowledge that even if an application is accepted and the applicant says OK BUT does not pay, it is not a valid claim.

If you put an item on Amazon in or any other website and do not check out and pay for it.....it is not a sale......even though it remains in the shopping basket.

Let's keep it real simple.........If you need 7 million people with red hats and you get 7 million people but only one million have red hats....the 7 million does not count.

Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 854872)

I was well aware that you used an old obsolete poll, but it would be helpful to the reader if you provided a link to that poll so they can see for themselves what you're trying to say. Anyway, I do thank you for reinforcing what I was saying! :ho:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 854905)

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 854465)

Thank you America for the Affordable Care Act.

I can visualize the mother being able to take her child to her doctor on a scheduled appointment. This WILL speed up the time spent in emergency rooms for true emergencies.

This humanitarian act took less than 6 months. We humans are slowly becoming more Humane.