[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by huge-pigeons

So if abc/nbc/cnn/msnbc/cbs and any of the other fake news channels say the same thing, then it’s true? All these fake news outlets get together each day to come up with the “theme” or “word” of the day to bash a person. It’s funny, you can watch 10 mins of each of these outlets during the day and see what the common “theme”/“word” is and I know millions of people believe this garbage.

They won't ever admit it, but there can be no other explanation.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by Wondering

You are talking in generalizations --be specific! What research is in question, that would affect the population of the US and the world? Otherwise, I can't take your sense of alarm serious.

You're entirely missing the point. Too many people just blindly accept whatever they are told as truth. Everyone needs to do some critical thinking when "facts" don't pass the sniff test. Especially with constant proof that "trusted sources" are lying to you regularly, often for some agenda.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by coconutmama

When we were in high school one of our best and most used life courses was Truth in Advertising, along with a civics class. Hopefully it is still being taught but looking at society now, I doubt it. Everyone should attempt to question data & do their own free thinking but without the conspiracy hoopla.

Another FAIL of the current public school system. Civics. The Constitution. Personal finance. Basic reading and math. Where has it gone?

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

As to the FBI report - let's say that Chicago and Philadelphia refuse to report violent crime. So, they get left OUT of the FBI report every year. That report will still be of value for evaluating the National TREND, which is the main point of the FBI report. The US as an entity is much greater than a FEW cities.
.......The last sentence seems to me to be an OVER-GENERALIZATION where many variable quantities are lumped together And I disagree with the conclusion that a person can't believe ANYTHING because the experts lie. That conclusion is too NEGATIVE for me. The whole FABRIC of society is BASED on trust. We depend on our established institutions to give us economic stability. To lose that TRUST is to stumble into an abyss of social uncertainty. We MUST guard AGAINST that !

No, if the conclusion being presented as fact purposely omits multiple critical data, then the entire premise is useless.

Society historically has been based on trust. But now there is enough information available rapidly to make it clear that much of what has been presented is not trustworthy.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by kingofbeer

What does this have to do with "The Villages" ?

The same thing as 90% of the threads on TOTV. Nothing.
That's why it is in the "Non Villages Discussion".

[AMB444]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Another FAIL of the current public school system. Civics. The Constitution. Personal finance. Basic reading and math. Where has it gone?

Also cursive writing. My kids can't read it. Why did they stop teaching it?

We were taught in high school that a proper article written by a journalist was a list of facts. Not opinion. Now you can't watch the news without getting 99% opinion from the news people.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

No, if the conclusion being presented as fact purposely omits multiple critical data, then the entire premise is useless..

Depends on what the premise is. Ex: If premise is that the sea level is getting higher, one needs only data from multiple locations demonstrate the trend. Measurement of the depth of every square foot of ocean surface is not necessary. One who wants to argue the trend can always claim insufficient data, whether reasonable or not. Ask silly questions as red hearings. Claim data was , omg, "manipulated", when simply rounded up or down to a reasonable decimal point. And, who gets to decide what is critical to demonstrating a premise? The researcher? The ones requesting the research? Or some random guy /gal on totv? Just because, whatever it is, doesn't match one's own preferred narrative does not mean the demonstrated premise is "fake" or intended to mislead in any way.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by AMB444

Also cursive writing. My kids can't read it. Why did they stop teaching it?

We were taught in high school that a proper article written by a journalist was a list of facts. Not opinion. Now you can't watch the news without getting 99% opinion from the news people.

One guess is, computers can't read it. Block letters, yes, but not cursive. Vague, lettery shapes strung together to express non-digital thoughts or feelings. When AI robots take over and the terminators come after us, cursive (artistic) writing may be our only weapon to defeat our human created overlords. Make a good story/movie. Remember, your heard it here first.������������������������������

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

They won't ever admit it, but there can be no other explanation.

I can think of several. I'm just a little bit surprised you can't, too. Or, maybe you can but 🤐
No matter. 🫠

[biker1]

Computers can read cursive via trained neural networks. Perhaps not 100% reliably.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

One guess is, computers can't read it. Block letters, yes, but not cursive. Vague, lettery shapes strung together to express non-digital thoughts or feelings. When AI robots take over and the terminators come after us, cursive (artistic) writing may be our only weapon to defeat our human created overlords. Make a good story/movie. Remember, your heard it here first.��������������� ����������������

[AMB444]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

When AI robots take over and the terminators come after us, cursive (artistic) writing may be our only weapon to defeat our human created overlords. Make a good story/movie. Remember, your heard it here first.��������������� ����������������

Lol!

Search for a list of historical documents written in cursive.

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

One guess is, computers can't read it. Block letters, yes, but not cursive. Vague, lettery shapes strung together to express non-digital thoughts or feelings. When AI robots take over and the terminators come after us, cursive (artistic) writing may be our only weapon to defeat our human created overlords. Make a good story/movie. Remember, your heard it here first.��������������� ����������������

The PO reads millions of cursive addresses daily using computer scanners.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz

You use critical thinking skills for reasonableness. Otherwise, you’ll believe in nothing and that destroys a society. No matter what in life there are mistakes. Rarely perfection. You don’t base your beliefs on one person, one article, one of anything. You read a lot on the subject from many sources and usually the similarities between them all give you a reasonable truth.

Not entirely accurate, and can create an agenda-driven narrative that you believe, because "many" sources are telling you the same thing.

The critical thinking part of your comment is THE #1 most important part. That's what helps you figure out what to look for in the first place.

Example

Non-critical-thinking person wants to know if the rumor he heard about vaccines is true. He runs a search for "vaccine hoax"

And of course he will end up with pages of search results that insist vaccines are a hoax. That's because - that is what he asked for.

Critical-thinking person wants to get more information about the same thing. He runs a search for "vaccines medicine science"

and finds a plethora of returns on a vast array of sub-topics about vaccines, some of which will say it's a hoax, some of which will say it's legit. He'll completely discount any result that doesn't come from an actual medical source, and check at LEAST the summaries of the first dozen that are left. If there's a term he doesn't understand or hasn't ever heard before, he'll run a search on that term and learn what he can about it.

He'll then read thoroughly some more actual medical sourced results, and check THEIR bibliographies and footnotes. He'll dive deep into the medical rabbit hole to find as many facts as he can about it

And THEN he'll conclude that no, the rumor is false, or yes, the rumor is true.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

I don't think you should trust anyone! Doctors, lawyers, politicians, teachers, researchers ... nobody! Not even your pets. They aren't "kissing" you, they are tasting you. 😉 Just saying! 😏

You forgot to mention the con artists who claim to speak for their god.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Depends on what the premise is. Ex: If premise is that the sea level is getting higher, one needs only data from multiple locations demonstrate the trend. Measurement of the depth of every square foot of ocean surface is not necessary. One who wants to argue the trend can always claim insufficient data, whether reasonable or not. Ask silly questions as red hearings. Claim data was , omg, "manipulated", when simply rounded up or down to a reasonable decimal point. And, who gets to decide what is critical to demonstrating a premise? The researcher? The ones requesting the research? Or some random guy /gal on totv? Just because, whatever it is, doesn't match one's own preferred narrative does not mean the demonstrated premise is "fake" or intended to mislead in any way.

Huh? Okay, so we are doing a study on US crime. Up or down? Well, it would make us look bad if we told the truth, so let's use data that excludes major crime centers. Voila! Crime is down! We weren't trying to mislead you! Same with the fake jobs report that keeps getting revised down by several hundred thousand every single time. No misleading, just made an honest mistake!

So tell me, did we only need data from zip codes 32159, 32162 and 32163 to prove crime is down? I mean, that's several data points.

Sorry, your argument is not convincing.