[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

About 100%. Let me rephrase: 99% of global warming papers are fake. The only truly accurate papers are those that show global warming is cyclical and has nothing to do with human activity

Oh, look! A family of cheetahs! 😃

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Huh? Okay, so we are doing a study on US crime. Up or down? Well, it would make us look bad if we told the truth, so let's use data that excludes major crime centers. Voila! Crime is down! We weren't trying to mislead you! Same with the fake jobs report that keeps getting revised down by several hundred thousand every single time. No misleading, just made an honest mistake!

So tell me, did we only need data from zip codes 32159, 32162 and 32163 to prove crime is down? I mean, that's several data points.

Sorry, your argument is not convincing.

It is said that, "the TREND is your FRIEND". Whether one data point about jobs is revised up or down is REALLY NOT important. What IS important is the TREND. The same is true when discussing US CRIME.The SAME FEW cities that do not report each time will NOT affect the TREND. Just look at a graph of the total US crime over TIME and see if the US is succeeding or failing to protect its citizens. I believe that crime per capita is FALLING today.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Huh? Okay, so we are doing a study on US crime. Up or down? Well, it would make us look bad if we told the truth, so let's use data that excludes major crime centers. Voila! Crime is down! We weren't trying to mislead you! Same with the fake jobs report that keeps getting revised down by several hundred thousand every single time. No misleading, just made an honest mistake!

So tell me, did we only need data from zip codes 32159, 32162 and 32163 to prove crime is down? I mean, that's several data points.

Sorry, your argument is not convincing.

I fear you are being intentionally obtuse!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

About 100%. Let me rephrase: 99% of global warming papers are fake. The only truly accurate papers are those that show global warming is cyclical and has nothing to do with human activity

It sounds like North Minneapolis would be a terrible place to live. Makes you glad that you live in The Villages. They might need to form a residents association to patrol the streets or seek help from the State. Police are too important to ANY community to allow them to engage in "stand down" tactics.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

Its a matter of critical thinking, "let's say that Chicago and Philadelphia refuse to report violent crime. So, they get left OUT of the FBI report every year. That report will still be of value for evaluating the National TREND, which is the main point of the FBI report. The US as an entity is much greater than a FEW cities." only IF that has been the practice in the past. Electroshock therapy , prefrontal lobotomy were seen by intuitions as a new froward thinking opportunity for those with phycological problems, and so it continues

LOL, no. If the previous data included ALL cities, and the you take out some cities, the trend is not real. You have to compare ALL cities in the baseline year to ALL cities in the comparison year to actually see the true trend. Which they didn't do.

And to make matters worse, the police aren't responding to as many calls or making as many arrests due to pressure from above. Then prosecutors aren't filing the same degree of charges on rare occasions when they actually prosecute. All leading to more fake comparisons over given time frames.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

About 100%. Let me rephrase: 99% of global warming papers are fake. The only truly accurate papers are those that show global warming is cyclical and has nothing to do with human activity

Sorry that my response about Minneapolis went to the wrong poster. As far as Global Warming goes we just had a Cat 4 hurricane hit Tallahassee. It set an all-time record for rapid intensification and the strongest ever to hit Tallahassee. This is because the Gulf waters are very HOT, maybe also an all time record for Sept. Global Warming is proved, not just by strong hurricanes, but by actual temperature measurement. They show increasing warming for the recent time period starting about 30 years ago and getting HOTTER worldwide each year. We are NOT out of the Hurricane Season yet. And next year will likely be even HOTTER.
.......There are 22 deaths attributed to Hurricane Helene as of right now.

[bp243]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

For those of you who "trust the media", "trust the experts", "trust the science" or "trust the government", or think data is unbiased or even consistently accurate:

Recent evidence indicates the constant pressure to generate data and publish papers may be affecting the quality of research and fueling retractions of research papers.

In the past decade, there have been more than 39,000 retractions, and the annual number of retractions is growing by around 23% each year.

Nearly half the retractions were due to issues related to the authenticity of the data.

Plagiarism was the second most common reason research papers were retracted, accounting for 16% of retractions.

Fake peer review was another reason why research papers were retracted.

Read the rest here

Herein lies the issue. Everyone who questions the validity of a study or someone’s hypothesis needs to dig deeper, particularly if you’re going to use that information to make a decision for yourself. Some studies are flawed as many have pointed out here, but it takes time to figure out why. Evaluative thinking should be our own responsibility and it’s one of the reasons why we have the luxury of exercising our brains.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Incorrect. In 2021, the FBI stopped accepting submissions from the old collectiin system and only used the new collection system. That year, it lost roughly 30% of the data it normally received. The FabI itself said no trend could be reported due to this.

Anyone who used the data from 2021 forward would present false trends. As an example, the FBI later went back and gathered data about hate crimes from the old system and added that info and discovered they went up by 21% from 2020 to 2021 rather than going down like the incomplete data showed.

Police departments are still transitioning to the new system,so all trends report led are still using incomplete data. Any trends shown are useless and those reporting them know this. They also know most people do not.

Both sides of the aisle are taking advantage of this to sell lies.

EDIT: as an aside, it took me longer to type this post than it did to find the info contained in it.

3 years later and they're still transitioning? LOL, believe any narrative you want, but people who live in cities are complaining it's not as safe.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

It is said that, "the TREND is your FRIEND". Whether one data point about jobs is revised up or down is REALLY NOT important. What IS important is the TREND. The same is true when discussing US CRIME.The SAME FEW cities that do not report each time will NOT affect the TREND. Just look at a graph of the total US crime over TIME and see if the US is succeeding or failing to protect its citizens. I believe that crime per capita is FALLING today.

Not true, the FBi stopped collecting data from the old reporting system in 2021. The cities not reporting are still using the old system.

The various police forces are only moving to the new system, slowing increasing the data used.

There is no valid trend data available from 2021 onward, not until they all start using the new system.

Google exists, you should try it. It took me longer to type this I do than it took me to find it.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

3 years later and they're still transitioning? LOL, believe any narrative you want, but people who live in cities are complaining it's not as safe.

This info is directly from the FBI itself, the same people gathering and then reporting the data.

It is easy to believe the many police districts in NYC aline are not yet transitioned, considering all the "define the police" cries there have been.

You choosing to not believe the truth is a you issue.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

It is said that, "the TREND is your FRIEND". Whether one data point about jobs is revised up or down is REALLY NOT important. What IS important is the TREND. The same is true when discussing US CRIME.The SAME FEW cities that do not report each time will NOT affect the TREND. Just look at a graph of the total US crime over TIME and see if the US is succeeding or failing to protect its citizens. I believe that crime per capita is FALLING today.

The trend is only a trend if comparable data points are used between time frames for measurement. See my post #97.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Sorry that my response about Minneapolis went to the wrong poster. As far as Global Warming goes we just had a Cat 4 hurricane hit Tallahassee. It set an all-time record for rapid intensification and the strongest ever to hit Tallahassee. This is because the Gulf waters are very HOT, maybe also an all time record for Sept. Global Warming is proved, not just by strong hurricanes, but by actual temperature measurement. They show increasing warming for the recent time period starting about 30 years ago and getting HOTTER worldwide each year. We are NOT out of the Hurricane Season yet. And next year will likely be even HOTTER.
.......There are 22 deaths attributed to Hurricane Helene as of right now.

The rise in global temps would be happening regardless of human activity. The Milkanovitch Cycles show this clearly. We can expect more warming by nature alone.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by spd2918

Everything is climate change according to the true believers. It's a cult.

As far as a "cult" goes it is those that deny science that are in a CULT.

[spd2918]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

As far as a "cult" goes it is those that deny science that are in a CULT.

When your science is politicized it is no longer valid. When your science is propped up by governments seeking new taxes it is no longer valid. When the media only reports science items favorable to the lie it is no longer exists.

And, as we see in this thread, when research papers are falsified to continue funding it is no longer valid.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Sandabern

I used to work for a well known "research hospital". They used to go around and "brag" about the fact that you could pretty much get the results you wanted from their research "based upon the extent of testing". As long as the grant money was sufficient, the test results would come out just fine. It wasn't even hidden and used as marketing for grant money/donations.

No system is perfect and free from people that want to "play or USE" the system. But, if a system is well designed and tested for flaws, it can produce worthwhile results.