[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

New Mexico Statutes Section 30-2-3 (2018) - Manslaughter. :: 2018 New Mexico Statutes :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia

Baldwin did not have any reasonable expectation to view the firearm as loaded as he was on a movie set which had a person assigned to weapon safety.



Facts matter.

New Mexico is notorious for going very easy on killers. Perhaps that is one reason there have been 100 homicides in Albuquerque so far this year. Alec will walk. That will not excuse his culpability as he failed to check for a live round in the weapon then carelessly aimed the weapon at the lady and pulled the trigger.

Then he lied, claiming he had not pulled the trigger. The FBI lab proved he had pulled the trigger. What a guy!

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In the long run facts and laws do indeed matter. Hollywood rules, regulations and procedures do not.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

They use plenty of fake replica items during the filming of a movie. No reason for a real gun to be anywhere on that set. Unless you needed one that only fired blanks.

A gun that fires blanks will also fire regular rounds...

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

A gun that fires blanks will also fire regular rounds...

Sometimes.............and if it does, MOST of the time the gun has been modified.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Sometimes.............and if it does, MOST of the time the gun has been modified.

Most times... Especially in revolvers with ZERO modifications...

In semi-automatics, a blank cartridge will not cycle the weapon...

[Nucky]

Justice here is the key. Who pulled the trigger?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Sometimes.............and if it does, MOST of the time the gun has been modified.

No need for a closeup shot while aiming at anyone. Photo shot of several people they wouldn't need an exact replica, a "stunt double" for the gun would work fine. Whether the gun could fire live ammo or not is not what I am currious about. What I want to know is, WHO is the idiot that thought it was acceptable to bring live ammo to the venue. Certainly, the person who provided the ammo and loaded the gun is just as, if not more, responsible for this horrible incident as the idiot that thought he was playing with a harmless gun.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

No need for a closeup shot while aiming at anyone. Photo shot of several people they wouldn't need an exact replica, a "stunt double" for the gun would work fine. Whether the gun could fire live ammo or not is not what I am currious about. What I want to know is, WHO is the idiot that thought it was acceptable to bring live ammo to the venue. Certainly, the person who provided the ammo and loaded the gun is just as, if not more, responsible for this horrible incident as the idiot that thought he was playing with a harmless gun.

Making a movie; not playing.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Most times... Especially in revolvers with ZERO modifications...

In semi-automatics, a blank cartridge will not cycle the weapon...

[Boston-Sean]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

In semi-automatics, a blank cartridge will not cycle the weapon...

A firearm doesn't need to cycle to fire a single shot.

[Boston-Sean]

All the Baldwin defenders should ask themselves this question:

If the script had called for Baldwin to point the gun at his own head do you think he would have taken the word of someone else that it was unloaded or would he have checked it himself?

Keep in mind that he's a gun owner himself and knows how to verify that a gun is unloaded. A task that would take less than 5 seconds.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Making a movie; not playing.

Fine. Doesn't really matter. Who brought the ammunition and loaded the gun? There is culpability there.
Old question that goes as follows, " if a chimpanzee is given a loaded gun and the chimpanzee shoots someone, who is responsible? The chimp, or the person that gave it a loaded gun?"

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

All the Baldwin defenders should ask themselves this question:

If the script had called for Baldwin to point the gun at his own head do you think he would have taken the word of someone else that it was unloaded or would he have checked it himself?

Keep in mind that he's a gun owner himself and knows how to verify that a gun is unloaded. A task that would take less than 5 seconds.

People including actors have been killed doing that.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Fine. Doesn't really matter. Who brought the ammunition and loaded the gun? There is culpability there.
Old question that goes as follows, " if a chimpanzee is given a loaded gun and the chimpanzee shoots someone, who is responsible? The chimp, or the person that gave it a loaded gun?"

Baldwin is not a chimp. He is a chump at times.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Baldwin is not a chimp. He is a chump at times.

Personally, I'm inclined to think he is a bit of both. 😀

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

All the Baldwin defenders should ask themselves this question:

If the script had called for Baldwin to point the gun at his own head do you think he would have taken the word of someone else that it was unloaded or would he have checked it himself?

Keep in mind that he's a gun owner himself and knows how to verify that a gun is unloaded. A task that would take less than 5 seconds.

Or if it was one of their own family members would they be so forgiving.