[Topspinmo]

I think some are confused between elected officials and there aids, vs career fed employees. IMO The retirement benefits are NOT the same. The so called LAW MAKERS get 100% and FREE health care Vs, compared to the working calls GS or WG fed employee. Fed employees pay into there retirement after I think 86 to be more inline with civilian counter part even though the hourly wage or salary was for the most part lower than civilian counter part.
IMO Once Your so called Civilian CEO's started outsourcing and cutting the fat federal wage maybe equaled civilian counterpart. Fed employees (NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS) pay for health care and their retirement fund.

I was Veteran Non-commissioned officer with 24 years service. Which includes moving all over the world and getting shot at. Compared to teacher I retirement pay is probably half and I was NOT able to retire at the 20 year mark due to my retirement pay was enough to verily make house payment. Some Civilian counterpart usually has house paid for by retirement time.

IMO SO you can't slop all federal retires into the LAW Maker category and their aids or staff retirement plans.. they are totally different.

By the time I retire I will have 40 years federal service and 6 years civilian service. That should be worth something IMO. After all if the federal retirement plans were so great everybody had the change to Join the military and get those great benefits of 125 bucks every two weeks and that free military health care every body raves about that they are not getting.

Lets Do little research before we lump all fed employee's in with the career elected officials that YOU elected to run the country in the ground.

[gomoho]

Military pension is pathetic - it's all those other folks that are getting 80% plus of their ending salary we have a problem with. I personally know of 2 federal retired employees whose combined retirement income (pension) is $13,000 a month! And while they were collecting this pension they were called back as contract workers making their old salaries and call me during the day because they were bored and nothing to do. Sorry if I sound irritated, but this is a big beef with me.

[njbchbum]

gomoho - i thought maybe we knew the same retirees - until i got to the part where your friends went back to work after a call back! my retired friends are lovin' the retiree life they're livin' too much to ever thing about a call back! god bless 'em!

[Golfingnut]

When I decided to make the army my career friends said I was crazy, now they are mad that I have free medical for life. I am sorry some folks have fallen short of their financial goal, but that should not cause one to be angry at someone else that chose a wiser path. I salute all military and federal workers for their service.

[rubicon]

Don't get me started

[SoccerCoach]

Originally Posted by rubicon

don't get me started

exactly !

[Bonnevie]

for many years I was called a moron for working for the government because the private sector paid considerably more. It was my choice to work for the government because of the benefits. Now I'm considered a parasite for having those benefits.

[clekr]

There is no 80% plus. Fed pensions capped at 80%. To reach that, in a non-law enforcement position,one has to have 42 years and 8 months of service. BTW, federal employees and retirees play 40% of their medical insurance premiums.

[Topspinmo]

"they were called back as contract workers" (Fed Government don't rehire, Contractor's rehire retiree's and the GOV pays the Contractor and has no control over who contractors hire!) That's not the retiree fault, Contracting is another waste of government money and needs it own thread to cover all the fraud, cheating, and pay backs that goes on.

I agree 13,000 month is way too much and they should be cap for at least half that, but try getting that bill in with your elected officials, Course they would jump at the change to cut someone else pay, but they won't touch their 16,000.00+ month retirement pay with the free medical that Fed career retirees DON'T get.

[De Lis]

"$6500.00 is way too much and they should be capped for at least half that". Excuse YOU?

My guess is that each of those 2 people have advanced degrees, supervised many, and worked far more than your typical 9-5 job - without overtime!

[Bonnevie]

and remember, to get that percentage they would have to be under the "old" system so don't get social security
with that many years, many have spent time in the military so if they've put in all that, they have served their country
newer federal retirees have a much, much lower pension, a 401K system, and social security.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

and remember, to get that percentage they would have to be under the "old" system so don't get social security
with that many years, many have spent time in the military so if they've put in all that, they have served their country
newer federal retirees have a much, much lower pension, a 401K system, and social security.

So many folks do not understand the CSRS retirement system nor the FERS system. They just equate federal employees with the current inept bums in Congress which is 100% wrong.

Both my wife and I are very proud to have been long time Federal employees (me at 36 years, she at 32 years) and we both did a lot of good for the citizens of the USA.

[Monkei]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

for many years I was called a moron for working for the government because the private sector paid considerably more. It was my choice to work for the government because of the benefits. Now I'm considered a parasite for having those benefits.

You say it all in your post. I did a combination of 37 yrs federal service and military time. I spent 14 in the military so I am not getting two pensions. My neighbors (in Tennessee) think I get free health care and one actually told me that I pay a reduced federal income tax as a perk.

My main question to any if you on here who thinks that fed workers had it or still have it made tell me, where in the heck do you get your incorrect information?

Hopefully my Villages neighbors are much smarter than my Tennessee neighbors.

[kstew43]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Military pension is pathetic - it's all those other folks that are getting 80% plus of their ending salary we have a problem with. I personally know of 2 federal retired employees whose combined retirement income (pension) is $13,000 a month! And while they were collecting this pension they were called back as contract workers making their old salaries and call me during the day because they were bored and nothing to do. Sorry if I sound irritated, but this is a big beef with me.

it's all relevant,

Married couple as federal employees, should equal out to 62-65 percent of high 3 years salaries, if federal CSRS and stay till manditory retirement age 56, $13k is on the lower end.... FAA anyway... no tax breaks but goverment does pay a portion of insurance and will into retirement.
stop and think about it ....used to much more funds a year and soon only half the original salary, a little scary.

Its all what your used to ......
But going back as a contract worker....not gonna happen....
staying till the manditory for the higher percentage...then its time for fun...

[gomoho]

WOW - mid to high level management in corporate America don't come close to that.