[JP]

Originally Posted by Parker

Whatever our government does, I'm confident it will be the wrong thing.

How true.

They have been hacking people to death over there with machetes. What difference does it make how people die.

Machetes, chemical weapons, wart hog gun ships that spew thousands of rounds a second. Dead is dead.

[jblum315]

Where are the TOTVers who are watching Al Gazeera now that it's available?

[kittygilchrist]

Putin demands US provide Syria attack proof - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
Here's an interesting tidbit in this article from Aljazeera:
"On Tuesday, the Arab League accused the Syrian regime of carrying out chemical weapons attacks.
Permanent representatives condemned the "horrible crime carried out with internationally prohibited chemical weapons" and put the "entire responsibility" on Assad's regime."

[LI SNOWBIRD]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

My guess is that as soon as we get our people home, we'll immediately launch air strikes intended to be surgical. I'm not very well-informed but I trust my gut that our military is scrambling as I write.
Praying...

(please refrain from pejorative and/or partisan comments)
Be

You are quite the wordsmith "pejorative and/or partisan comments"- -well said

[billethkid]

the even more sad part of this whole circus is the media tracking the "whatever action" like it was a given time table for flight or train arrivals.
Since when did the when and where and how execution of military tactics become public dialogue?

Every single day by every single news provider we have to listen what the options are, who said what today, reporting that the POTUS has all the facts but has not decided yet, Kerry continuing to pour gasoline on the fire by saying we got the info and we are going to do it.

It is so self politicized it is a joke. Can you imagine what the so called enemy is doing? Digging in, hiding what they don't want to be found, Assaad is no doubt deep in hiding and the press continues to yelp...ready or not...no I mean I think we are ready....no,no we are not ready yet....and my favorite we are ready but haven't made a decision yet.

We played that game for 3 months before attacking Iraq.....hmmmmnnnn I wonder if they could have hidden what ever was not supposed to be there. Nah, that would not be fair.

This has become a game of personal testosterone bluff by those in power with little to do with the killing of innocents. Just like the daily killing of innocents continues but the only news worthy ones are the ones in the media's and those in power's cross hairs.

Totally and completely disgusting displays of politics with the American people being sucked in....again.....as usual.....GET YOUR CHECK BOOK OUT UNCLE SAM!!.

btk

[DaleMN]

Thank goodness we don't make these decisions.

[njbchbum]

is it at all possible that the pussy-footing is all about taxes and the debt ceiling?

'The White House has been banking on defense hawks within the GOP breaking ranks with Tea Party conservatives and embracing a debt deal that includes some higher taxes and reverses cuts to domestic programs.

'Their hope is that the cuts to the Pentagon will grow so painful, some defense-minded lawmakers will accept more tax revenue as part of a deal to end the defense cuts.

'That effort needs a shot in the arm.

'Obama faced a setback this week when secretive White House debt talks with Senate GOP centrists were suspended indefinitely over the issue of new taxes. Experts also cautioned that for the Syrian action to move the fiscal goalposts, they will need to be successful and popular with the public.'

Some see Syria as edge for Obama in fiscal showdown (Video) - The Hill's On The Money

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

is it at all possible that the pussy-footing is all about taxes and the debt ceiling?

'The White House has been banking on defense hawks within the GOP breaking ranks with Tea Party conservatives and embracing a debt deal that includes some higher taxes and reverses cuts to domestic programs.

'Their hope is that the cuts to the Pentagon will grow so painful, some defense-minded lawmakers will accept more tax revenue as part of a deal to end the defense cuts.

'That effort needs a shot in the arm.

'Obama faced a setback this week when secretive White House debt talks with Senate GOP centrists were suspended indefinitely over the issue of new taxes. Experts also cautioned that for the Syrian action to move the fiscal goalposts, they will need to be successful and popular with the public.'

Some see Syria as edge for Obama in fiscal showdown (Video) - The Hill's On The Money

Yes, that.....and that the pussy-footing is all about cluelessness as to what to do while rattling the cages of Iran, Russia, etc.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by billethkid

the even more sad part of this whole circus is the media tracking the "whatever action" like it was a given time table for flight or train arrivals.
Since when did the when and where and how execution of military tactics become public dialogue?

Every single day by every single news provider we have to listen what the options are, who said what today, reporting that the POTUS has all the facts but has not decided yet, Kerry continuing to pour gasoline on the fire by saying we got the info and we are going to do it.

It is so self politicized it is a joke. Can you imagine what the so called enemy is doing? Digging in, hiding what they don't want to be found, Assaad is no doubt deep in hiding and the press continues to yelp...ready or not...no I mean I think we are ready....no,no we are not ready yet....and my favorite we are ready but haven't made a decision yet.

We played that game for 3 months before attacking Iraq.....hmmmmnnnn I wonder if they could have hidden what ever was not supposed to be there. Nah, that would not be fair.

This has become a game of personal testosterone bluff by those in power with little to do with the killing of innocents. Just like the daily killing of innocents continues but the only news worthy ones are the ones in the media's and those in power's cross hairs.



Totally and completely disgusting displays of politics with the American people being sucked in....again.....as usual.....GET YOUR CHECK BOOK OUT UNCLE SAM!!.

btk

"It is so self politicized it is a joke"

This is unfortunately has become the dominate factor, and it should not even be a consideration.

I will give POTUS the benefit of the doubt until he speaks to the nation and I hear the motives and desired result. Remember he still has an out if he wants it to avoid some very uncomfortable times next week with Putin in Russia, and that is not to say that what Putin thinks is important, it is just that the timing of this is uncomfortable. Will wait to hear from the POTUS.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by Bucco

"It is so self politicized it is a joke"

This is unfortunately has become the dominate factor, and it should not even be a consideration.

I will give POTUS the benefit of the doubt until he speaks to the nation and I hear the motives and desired result. Remember he still has an out if he wants it to avoid some very uncomfortable times next week with Putin in Russia, and that is not to say that what Putin thinks is important, it is just that the timing of this is uncomfortable. Will wait to hear from the POTUS.

You are taking about the same stance as me on this big issue. No problem with that.

I would like to know why you continue to use POTUS instead of saying President Obama? It is shorter, easier to type, official, but rather impersonal, don't you think? Nothing wrong with it from a technical viewpoint - but ...

[kittygilchrist]

gentle reminder...thankful for respectful comments all the way through this thread!

(please refrain from pejorative and/or partisan comments)
Be

[Suzi]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

We MUST stop poking the middle east. Kill 100,000 using conventional weapons and that was accepted. Kill 1400 with gas and now its time for another War. Without consensus of the rest of the world and since we are not directly attacked, I say stay the he&& out of it. We simply must stop being the worlds police before the world retaliates on us here.

I am all for humanitarian efforts, such as help with natural disasters - earthquakes, tsunami's etc. Civil wars in the east have been going on for millenniums......we need to stay out of other peoples business. How about we let the UN figure this one out for a change!