[It's Hot There]

Any body else's usage jump with the new meter???

Last month SECO installed the new smart meter.
On their website, last month included both the old meter and new meter.
As a result, there were two "usage" reads.

The average temp from June to July increased from 81 to 83 degrees.
(according to their website)
But when you add both meter's usage, our usage went up 100%.

No Way!!

Any body else??
Thanks in advance.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by It's Hot There

Any body else's usage jump with the new meter???

Last month SECO installed the new smart meter.
On their website, last month included both the old meter and new meter.
As a result, there were two "usage" reads.

The average temp from June to July increased from 81 to 83 degrees.
(according to their website)
But when you add both meter's usage, our usage went up 100%.

No Way!!

Any body else??
Thanks in advance.

Mine was installed nine days before the end of my billing cycle. I can see that I used very close to 40kWh/day for those nine days. I was gone for most of the month of July last year but in the month of August 2023 I also used 40kWh/day. As far as I can see in this very short period of time, the new meter is reading exactly the same as the old meter.

[asianthree]

For some I think the new meter makes you more aware of use. Can’t really compare hvac $$ because of variable weather temps. Usage graft breaks down $$ for watt usage on items.

For us is “Always On” was $19 for the month (so anything plugged in, not in use)

Yet our pool is only $12 for the month. Granted we are not heating, but our chiller is on.

So just for S&Gs I unplugged every not in use item. Lamps, Alexa’s, toaster, blenders, printer, cell phone docks. So will post after next month end bill.

Our new meter bill increased by $2.37 from last month old meter.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by asianthree

For some I think the new meter makes you more aware of use. Can’t really compare hvac $$ because of variable weather temps. Usage graft breaks down $$ for watt usage on items.

For us is “Always On” was $19 for the month (so anything plugged in, not in use)

Yet our pool is only $12 for the month. Granted we are not heating, but our chiller is on.

So just for S&Gs I unplugged every not in use item. Lamps, Alexa’s, toaster, blenders, printer, cell phone docks. So will post after next month end bill.

Our new meter bill increased by $2.37 from last month old meter.

To the OP, sounds like they may be a billing error or double charge in your case?

I have a Sense device that monitors power usage real time. No difference with the new meter for total power usage.

I suspect the SECO usage breakdown are estimates, not actual detection and measurement of those devices as happens with Sense.

I think Village Tinker (and others?) has a Srnse also so maybe he will weigh in for what he's observing.

Sense - Control your home energy use

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Altavia

To the OP, sounds like they may be a billing error or double charge in your case?

I have a Sense device that monitors power usage real time. No difference with the new meter for total power usage.

I suspect the SECO usage breakdown are estimates, not actual detection and measurement of those devices as happens with Sense.

I think Village Tinker (and others?) has a Srnse also so maybe he will weigh in for what he's observing.

Sense - Control your home energy use

Our thoughts was never had seco daily usage available for us. So new toy to play with, app does ask for info and claims algorithms chart usage, such as appliances.

Sense by far has better capabilities, but not something I need to keep that much track of, unless we were not full time.

My guess is “always on” is unexplained watt usage for seco, gets grafted basically as such.

I also can or can’t explain is the 16 days of unplugged of all non use items I am 5.37 to 6.1 watts per day less than last month

[biker1]

Have you called SECO ? I wasn’t home when they replaced my meter so I didn’t have a chance to note the reading on the old meter. However, the numbers on their website for the old meter and new meter look about right.

Originally Posted by It's Hot There

Any body else's usage jump with the new meter???

Last month SECO installed the new smart meter.
On their website, last month included both the old meter and new meter.
As a result, there were two "usage" reads.

The average temp from June to July increased from 81 to 83 degrees.
(according to their website)
But when you add both meter's usage, our usage went up 100%.

No Way!!

Any body else??
Thanks in advance.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by It's Hot There

Any body else's usage jump with the new meter???

Last month SECO installed the new smart meter.
On their website, last month included both the old meter and new meter.
As a result, there were two "usage" reads.

The average temp from June to July increased from 81 to 83 degrees.
(according to their website)
But when you add both meter's usage, our usage went up 100%.

No Way!!

Any body else??
Thanks in advance.

Check if by mistake your hvac fan has been switched to always on. Or is your hvac running nonstop? Check your thermostat.
I would definitely call seco, 100% usage even if temps was 100 up from 80s wouldn’t cause that much increase.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by biker1

Have you called SECO ? I wasn’t home when they replaced my meter so I didn’t have a chance to note the reading on the old meter. However, the numbers on their website for the old meter and new meter look about right.

Which page on the website has the numbers for the old meter? The only place I see numbers is on my bill and those are only for the new meter. I'd like to see what the reading was for the old meter.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Which page on the website has the numbers for the old meter? The only place I see numbers is on my bill and those are only for the new meter. I'd like to see what the reading was for the old meter.

Usage tab.

The month of the conversion will have both meters on the chart.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Which page on the website has the numbers for the old meter? The only place I see numbers is on my bill and those are only for the new meter. I'd like to see what the reading was for the old meter.

You can go to billing and lookup any bill . My billing goes back to 2/23

[It's Hot There]

Originally Posted by biker1

Have you called SECO ? I wasn’t home when they replaced my meter so I didn’t have a chance to note the reading on the old meter. However, the numbers on their website for the old meter and new meter look about right.

Sent them an email from their website. Waiting the hear back.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Usage tab.

The month of the conversion will have both meters on the chart.

Thanks.

I've never had good luck with those tabs. Could be the browser I'm using or could be the display not meeting my expectations.

Looking on the Average Usage tab and narrowing the range I was able to see the old and new readings. I'll have to spend more time there to see what else is available.

[biker1]

For these sorts of things, I typically call as I like instant gratification ;-). They should be able to fix this quickly. Please report back.

Originally Posted by It's Hot There

Sent them an email from their website. Waiting the hear back.

[biker1]

You can now get daily usage. I was under the impression that we were going to be able to get usage in 15 min increments. Eventually, I believe they will be going to different rates based on the time of day.

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Thanks.

I've never had good luck with those tabs. Could be the browser I'm using or could be the display not meeting my expectations.

Looking on the Average Usage tab and narrowing the range I was able to see the old and new readings. I'll have to spend more time there to see what else is available.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

The daily may be accurate. but most likely the appliance level is based upon the usage estimates per day the database has for each item, based upon survey answers. . . though the company doesn't know wheyou are home or not, so the estimate will take the always on item estimates, and call that the fixed portion usage and then break down the variable usage be estimates, and air conditioner, etc. may be based upon weather temperatures. . . .

at least that's how I did these types of graphs and forecasts during my finance career. .