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Originally Posted by BrianL99

Yep, Canada gained independence in 1982.

Australia, in 1986.

It only took them 200 years longer than it took the USA.

Great Britain has lost every single country they controlled. Now they have a few islands in the Caribbean.

94 Countries were under British rule or major influence, in the past.

Waiting around would have been a lot like betting on the Chicago White Sox last year.

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The Revolutionary War is often painted as the glorious American Patriots, vs the mean old English Tax man. The truth is somewhere in the middle, probably leaning toward England, who treated the Colonies fairly well.

It was almost strictly a "Tax Revolt", as the colonists were ****ed that England raised taxes to pay for the recent French-American War ... that England financed on behalf of the colonies.

Revolutionaries are often revered when they win and vilified when they lose.

Looks like debt played a big part.

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British Reforms and Colonial Resistance, 1763-1766 | The American Revolution, 1763 - 1783 | U.S. History Primary Source Timeline | Classroom Materials at the Library of Congress | Library of Congress


Worth a look.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by Caymus

Does anybody wonder what life would be like without the revolution? Canada and Australia had peaceful transitions.

Not sure about Australia,but Canada is still owned by the Crown.

The King of England, through his representative, approves all their laws and can disband their government at will.

They are kinda independent...

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by bmcgowan13

Huh...all because of tariffs on the tea we imported for China.


Interring concept...

No, a direct tax on tea like a VAT the people in n those countries pay today. Come on, schools were far better before Carter created the fed dept of ed, you know it was a tax on tea.

A tariff is not a tax the people pay. It is not a tax at all.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The Revolutionary War is often painted as the glorious American Patriots, vs the mean old English Tax man. The truth is somewhere in the middle, probably leaning toward England, who treated the Colonies fairly well.

It was almost strictly a "Tax Revolt", as the colonists were ****ed that England raised taxes to pay for the recent French-American War ... that England financed on behalf of the colonies.

Revolutionaries are often revered when they win and vilified when they lose.

The phrase "no taxation without representation" does not mean they rebelled over the tax.

Had King George simply gave the colonies representation we would not have rebelled...even with the tax still in place.

The tax on tea was the straw the broke the King's back.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Not sure about Australia,but Canada is still owned by the Crown.

The King of England, through his representative, approves all their laws and can disband their government at will.

They are kinda independent...

I think you'll find that is not correct.

[Donegalkid]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Attached is a photo of my hometown of Concord from about 10 years ago and the Old North Bridge (as it is today) where it arguably started (credit to the Concord Journal).

Concord was destination of the British troops. Supposedly, there was a large cache of weapons hidden in Concord. Paul Revere and William Dawes were sent to warn the locals of the British arrival, but never made it to Concord or Acton.

Samuel Prescott was supposedly with his "girlfriend" in Lexington and on his way home, he ran into Revere & Dawes. He was able to reach the Acton Militiamen to warn them. The Minutemen then travelled to the Old North Bridge ( 2-3 miles away) to engage the Red Coats, along with the Concord Militia.

There's always been a rivalry between Acton - Concord, as to how the events of that day truley unfolded, but it did mostly begin at the Old North Bridge, about a mile from Concord Center. The Myths of Samuel Prescott, the “Third Midnight Rider” | Historical Digression

“ By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
Their flag to April’s breeze unfurled,
Here once the embattled farmers stood,

And fired the shot heard round the world.

The foe long since in silence slept;
Alike the conqueror silent sleeps;
And Time the ruined bridge has swept
Down the dark stream which seaward creeps.

On this green bank, by this soft stream,
We set to-day a votive stone;
That memory may their deed redeem,
When, like our sires, our sons are gone.

Spirit, that made those heroes dare
To die, and leave their children free,
Bid Time and Nature gently spare
The shaft we raise to them and thee.”

—Ralph Waldo Emerson (on the bridge and Concord).

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Yep, Canada gained independence in 1982.

Australia, in 1986.

It only took them 200 years longer than it took the USA.

Great Britain has lost every single country they controlled. Now they have a few islands in the Caribbean.

94 Countries were under British rule or major influence, in the past.

Waiting around would have been a lot like betting on the Chicago White Sox last year.

Probably would have happened quicker for the "Colonies". The population would have exceeded Great Britian by the early/mid 1800's.

Would GB have tried to take additional lands from France and Spain?

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I think you'll find that is not correct.

I am confused. Years ago, on July 4, I asked a Canadian when Canada got their independence.
He stated that it was confusing!

Do we have any Canadians to clear it up for us?

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Originally Posted by BrianL99

Attached is a photo of my hometown of Concord from about 10 years ago and the Old North Bridge (as it is today) where it arguably started (credit to the Concord Journal).

Concord was destination of the British troops. Supposedly, there was a large cache of weapons hidden in Concord. Paul Revere and William Dawes were sent to warn the locals of the British arrival, but never made it to Concord or Acton.

Samuel Prescott was supposedly with his "girlfriend" in Lexington and on his way home, he ran into Revere & Dawes. He was able to reach the Acton Militiamen to warn them. The Minutemen then travelled to the Old North Bridge ( 2-3 miles away) to engage the Red Coats, along with the Concord Militia.

There's always been a rivalry between Acton - Concord, as to how the events of that day truley unfolded, but it did mostly begin at the Old North Bridge, about a mile from Concord Center. The Myths of Samuel Prescott, the “Third Midnight Rider” | Historical Digression

My home town as well, CCHS 62. Our home on Barretts Mill road was a tavern at the time and was visited by the British troops on the day of the fight. With Acton and Westford minutemen heading their way they retreated back over the north bridge and took up a defensive position. Shots were fired, they were heard around the world.

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Originally Posted by Rainger99

I am confused. Years ago, on July 4, I asked a Canadian when Canada got their independence.
He stated that it was confusing!

Do we have any Canadians to clear it up for us?

They never got true independence, still part of the British empire.