[Wondering]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Electric Mandates Have California Truckers Charging Overtime - WSJ

Electric Mandates Have California Truckers Charging Overtime - WSJ

Not thinking that this scenario was the intended outcome, but then again, CA govt was a bulb that has never lit up to be seen.

Not sure which link will work, or if either link will work for everyone, posted with no guarantee of visibility. This was a link which I clicked on and was visible to me and i read, and I was not logged into the WSJ, so apologies if it doesn't work for you. . has to be a disclaimer as someone turned me in for a link which was behind a paywall for them, but not for me and I don't know why i could see it and they couldn't, even when not being logged into the site. I will copy and paste the article if requested if the link doesn't work

Why post a WSJ article? It is owned by the Murdochs. The same family that owns Fox Noise, which lost a law suit for more than 3/4 of a billion dollars for lying to their viewers, and is being sued for more than a billion, for the same reason, by other corporations for the same lies. Why are you criticizing California, which has the 8th leading economy in the world! Not very smart!

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Exit tax… good luck with that once exited.

Oh, do NOT underestimate the power of the CA Franchise Tax Board! They’re WORSE than the IRS! They reached into my back pocket while a GA resident—after 15 years—merely because I paid my father’s caretaker (he lived in CA) as an employee of my GA corporation. They said I was “doing business” in their State and thus subject to their corp and income taxes. Pure BS!

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

They used to be big when they first arrived, same as the car batteries.
They will get smaller and safer as they evolve.
Early days!

Very early days, the first electric car was built by German engineer Andreas Flocken in 1888.

[PurePeach]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Electric Mandates Have California Truckers Charging Overtime - WSJ

Electric Mandates Have California Truckers Charging Overtime - WSJ

Not thinking that this scenario was the intended outcome, but then again, CA govt was a bulb that has never lit up to be seen.

Not sure which link will work, or if either link will work for everyone, posted with no guarantee of visibility. This was a link which I clicked on and was visible to me and i read, and I was not logged into the WSJ, so apologies if it doesn't work for you. . has to be a disclaimer as someone turned me in for a link which was behind a paywall for them, but not for me and I don't know why i could see it and they couldn't, even when not being logged into the site. I will copy and paste the article if requested if the link doesn't work

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First one worked for me. This is insane. We’ve got to get this country straightened out or we’re headed to destitution.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Wondering

Why post a WSJ article? It is owned by the Murdochs. The same family that owns Fox Noise, which lost a law suit for more than 3/4 of a billion dollars for lying to their viewers, and is being sued for more than a billion, for the same reason, by other corporations for the same lies. Why are you criticizing California, which has the 8th leading economy in the world! Not very smart!

If it’s so great why didn’t you move there?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by PurePeach

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First one worked for me. This is insane. We’ve got to get this country straightened out or we’re headed to destitution.

Prefect example of Rome falling and too far in drink IMO. Luckily I won’t see the total destruction.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by Wondering

Why post a WSJ article? It is owned by the Murdochs. The same family that owns Fox Noise, which lost a law suit for more than 3/4 of a billion dollars for lying to their viewers, and is being sued for more than a billion, for the same reason, by other corporations for the same lies. Why are you criticizing California, which has the 8th leading economy in the world! Not very smart!

Look at all the stupid people leaving California. Don't they realize what a great government they have?

The moving truck rental company’s annual growth index shows that more moving trucks departed from California than any other state for the third consecutive year. California has had one of the greatest net losses of U-Haul trucks since 2016, always landing in one of the lowest-growth spots.

More U-Haul trucks left California than any other state in 2022

[rsmurano]

We are decades away from making EVs a viable choice for a vehicle:

When you can charge an EV at as many charging stations as there are gas stations;

when it takes the same amount of time to charge an EV as it does to fill up a car with gas;

When your neighborhood mechanic will work on the EV;

When the battery system can last as long as a gas engine, which can be decades;

When disposing an EV battery isn’t a hazardous waste issue;

When the EV is priced similar to a gas car;

When the countries electrical infrastructure can handle the hundreds of millions of EVs charging on a daily basis;

When you drive an EV across country, you are not nervous as heck that you will get to the next charging station with chargers in working order and you don’t have to wait hours in line to charge your car;

Maybe my great great grand kids will be able to enjoy an EV.

[ken.yotz]

You obviously don't know that your credit rating also affects your auto and home insurance rates.

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

It’s not a scam, property and casualty insurance companies are in the business of profitably underwriting, pricing, and diversifying risk. Statistically significant data has proven that customers with lower credit scores are more likely to file tenuous claims and are therefore riskier to insure. Hence the higher premiums based on inferior credit scores. Without this credit based pricing adjustment, everyone would be charged higher premiums, effectively requiring those with better credit to subsidize others.

I believe it to be a scam because people are unable to have a mortgage without insurance, I believe it to be a scam because state legislatures have made car insurance mandatory. I believe it to be a scam because the insurance industry used its power to convince legistatures & mortgage banks to comply with the insurance companies best interests. I also believe that insurance companies gladly take premiums, but frequently do everything they can to avoid making payments. I am not making a value judgement as to whether people should or should not have house & car insurance. So now that insurance companies have made it imperative to have insurance (sold by them), they use credit ratings to raise premiums, yeah, I do see your point, but I will continue to consider it a dirty business.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star

Very early days, the first electric car was built by German engineer Andreas Flocken in 1888.

Don't think he used Lithium batteries though.
I worked a weekend milk round as a kid with electric milk float.
I used to have to push it home for milkman as it died!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by ken.yotz

You obviously don't know that your credit rating also affects your auto and home insurance rates.

Yep, any excuse to raise rates.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by Wondering

Why post a WSJ article? It is owned by the Murdochs. The same family that owns Fox Noise, which lost a law suit for more than 3/4 of a billion dollars for lying to their viewers, and is being sued for more than a billion, for the same reason, by other corporations for the same lies. Why are you criticizing California, which has the 8th leading economy in the world! Not very smart!

Was this an attempt at humor? First, implying that just bc ABC NBC CBS MSNBC CNN WaPo NYTimes haven't been sued, they must be telling the truth. LOL. All of the MSM lies, fabricates stories to fit their preferred narrative and gaslights their viewers.

As for CA, the size of their economy is mostly irrelevant. China and Russia have huge economies, but that doesn't mean you'd want to live there or that they are doing anything right. As someone else already pointed out, people are fleeing in droves. Not exactly an endorsement. If it's so great, why are they leaving? The weather is great tho.

[biker1]

Originally Posted by rsmurano

We are decades away from making EVs a viable choice for a vehicle:

In decades, the only gas vehicles you will be able to buy will be used.

When you can charge an EV at as many charging stations as there are gas stations;

We don't need as many charging stations today as gas stations. The number will ramp up with time as the number of EVs increase.

when it takes the same amount of time to charge an EV as it does to fill up a car with gas;

Is that really any issue? For most people, the majority of their charging will be over night at home.

When your neighborhood mechanic will work on the EV;

Reliability has ceased to be an issue for both ICE and EVs. EVs have lower maintenance than ICE vehicles.

When the battery system can last as long as a gas engine, which can be decades;

Same for EVs. There are many EVs with 300K miles.

When disposing an EV battery isn’t a hazardous waste issue;

Recycling of EV batteries is ramping up, the same as it did for gas engines. This isn't an issue, as much as you would like to make it so without any evidence.

When the EV is priced similar to a gas car;

Check out prices of current EVs.

When the countries electrical infrastructure can handle the hundreds of millions of EVs charging on a daily basis;

If all autos were replaced by EVs tomorrow, the amount of electric would need to increase by about 25%. We have about 30 years before this will happen.

When you drive an EV across country, you are not nervous as heck that you will get to the next charging station with chargers in working order and you don’t have to wait hours in line to charge your car;

Please provide evidence that this is a real issue.

Maybe my great great grand kids will be able to enjoy an EV.

Whatever.

If you don't want to buy an EV then fine, don't buy one. Nobody is forcing you, but stop making up nonsense.

[biker1]

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