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sounding 01-25-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2179732)
As you base your whole cooling argument on this thread on 7 years of 'DATA, 200+ years of records showing the opposite, would seem to me, to make your claim somewhat shaky.

What's to argue? The data shows the last 7 years of (atmospheric and oceanic) temperatures shows slight cooling. It's called data, which shows CO2 is NOT a control knob. So ... why the 7-year cooling trend?

Bill14564 01-25-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2179735)
What's to argue? The data shows the last 7 years of (atmospheric and oceanic) temperatures shows slight cooling. It's called data, which shows CO2 is NOT a control knob. So ... why the 7-year cooling trend?

Temperature graph misrepresented to deny climate change | AP News

And also post #67 on the other thread.

Two Bills 01-25-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2179734)
Likewise, 200 years of records vs. 4 1/2 million years of the current ice age make that claim "shaky" as well.

4 1/2 million years?
Now we are going back before even my time!
200 years of records still beats 7 to show a trend in my book.
The planet is getting warmer without a doubt. Even in my short time in the world, the climate has changed.
Man made?
I lean on the 'not' side in that argument, but the jury is still out on that discussion, and none of the opinionated on TOTV will ever hear the official verdict.

sounding 01-25-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2179742)
4 1/2 million years?
Now we are going back before even my time!
200 years of records still beats 7 to show a trend in my book.
The planet is getting warmer without a doubt. Even in my short time in the world, the climate has changed.
Man made?
I lean on the 'not' side in that argument, but the jury is still out on that discussion, and none of the opinionated on TOTV will ever hear the official verdict.

Why the 7-year cooling trend?

Bill14564 01-25-2023 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2179763)
Why the 7-year cooling trend?

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2179740)

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sounding 01-25-2023 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2179764)
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Thanks. Hopefully that will also be discussed at the next Weather Club meeting, where Carl Sagan's wacky claim about runaway greenhouse warming on Venus will be revealed ... The Villages Weather Club

Byte1 01-25-2023 01:37 PM

Just curious, how does one attribute the ocean's warming due to underwater volcanoes, to mankind? Are we also responsible for erupting volcanoes? Years ago, I accidentally wandered onto a military website that kept readings on equipment located at the poles that measured polar ice thickness. According to the information provided by the instruments, the ice was melting from the bottom, not the top. Experts suggested that the ocean was warming due to under water volcanoes. Not sure if anyone(military) was making large sums of money for their "research" so the information from the military may have been less accurate....;)

jimjamuser 01-25-2023 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2179702)
Don't know if it would be called a field trip, but they are definitely "trippin'".

It's a one-way trip so they are taking lots of Bettle Albums and songs like, "Day Trippen".

jimjamuser 01-25-2023 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2179707)
Wow ... love the word unprecedented. Kind of like the unprecedented growth of legalized hunting of hundreds of polar bears each year, unprecedented global human longevity, unprecedented global crop yields, and the unprecedented lack of reporting of the current 7-year cooling trend.

That can't be correct about high crop yields in total because the war in the Ukraine has stopped the export of wheat. And the Ukraine HAD BEEN contributing about 40% of the world's supply. That's why parts of Africa are starving and its inhabitants are moving northward to TRY to get into Europe. Same, same for parts of South America migrating North to the US and Canada. This would NOT be happening were it NOT for Global Warming which IS man-made and causing BIG problems. But, why believe what your lying eyes are telling you (like pictures of migrants crossing the Rio Grande) when you can believe what the lying local Weather Wackos (The WW's) are spouting. Pick a side !!!!!
.....Note......post # 136 proved CONCLUSIVELY who to believe.

jimjamuser 01-25-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2179707)
Wow ... love the word unprecedented. Kind of like the unprecedented growth of legalized hunting of hundreds of polar bears each year, unprecedented global human longevity, unprecedented global crop yields, and the unprecedented lack of reporting of the current 7-year cooling trend.

As far as hunting goes......more people have had to do survival hunting because of losing jobs because of the Global Pandemic. Also, GIANT Chinese fishing fleets have been overfishing the oceans. And on TOP of that many fish species DEPEND on smaller fish that USED to be abundant on coral reefs before the coral began dying after the ocean water contained TOO MUCH CO2.........because the Earth's terrestrial plants have been cut down and can NOT contain ALL the CO2 produced by increased populations of humans that require IC engines to dominate their lives. E-bikes and Electric lawnmowers anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

jimjamuser 01-25-2023 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2179710)
You no longer can take a "field" trip, since the word field was banned by the USC social work college as "racist". You may however call it a "practicum trip":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

That hit the wall and "practicumly" bounced.

jimjamuser 01-25-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2179720)
???

From your numbers, the temperature rose approximately 0.07 degrees fahrenheit per century. The data I can find shows the temperature rising at about 1.4 degrees fahrenheit per century since 1880 (about 2 degrees total).

I searched on "temperature rise over last 120 years" to find the data I used, what did you use to find data that showed much less than a 0.07 degree increase?


Discussing sea level rise will take more time than I am willing to spend. Some data points I found:
- The 432ft rise was from 21,000 years ago to about 3,000 years ago
- At the end of the 432 ft rise the seas were at their current level which means there was a great deal more ice to melt in those 18,000 years than there is now
- While 8" over 120 years seems correct it is important to know that half of that was over the last 30 years indicating the rate of sea level rise is increasing
- The seas will not rise another 432 ft (not enough ice) but at a rate of more than one foot per century and increasing, sea level rise could be a big problem not too long from now

I read about that concern about the world's sea level rising relatively RAPIDLY in recent years. We can just look to MIAMI where on high tide and certain lunar phases the base of Miami skyscrapers have seawater and also the nearby roads. And seawater is NOT VERY helpful to concrete.

jimjamuser 01-25-2023 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2179732)
As you base your whole cooling argument on this thread on 7 years of 'DATA, 200+ years of records showing the opposite, would seem to me, to make your claim somewhat shaky.

The Weather Club meets right before the Flat Earth Club so people can get a double dose of ...................? I think that Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner is a member in good standing at each club.

sounding 01-25-2023 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2179782)
Just curious, how does one attribute the ocean's warming due to underwater volcanoes, to mankind? Are we also responsible for erupting volcanoes? Years ago, I accidentally wandered onto a military website that kept readings on equipment located at the poles that measured polar ice thickness. According to the information provided by the instruments, the ice was melting from the bottom, not the top. Experts suggested that the ocean was warming due to under water volcanoes. Not sure if anyone(military) was making large sums of money for their "research" so the information from the military may have been less accurate....;)

The Villages Weather Club mentions this issue repeatedly, because climate alarmists won't touch this subject -- it's too hot. Here's 2 reasons ...
1. Arctic volcanoes ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_a0exADJtk
2. Antarctic volcanoes ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raR5YgFcIQQ

sounding 01-25-2023 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179813)
The Weather Club meets right before the Flat Earth Club so people can get a double dose of ...................? I think that Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner is a member in good standing at each club.

For those not familiar with the Flat Earth club, here's the Weather Club website ... The Villages Weather Club ... it is open to all Villagers. Not only does membership grow following each presentation, requests for presentations outside the Villages are also growing -- even as far as the University of Florida at Gainesville.

golfing eagles 01-25-2023 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179812)
I read about that concern about the world's sea level rising relatively RAPIDLY in recent years. We can just look to MIAMI where on high tide and certain lunar phases the base of Miami skyscrapers have seawater and also the nearby roads. And seawater is NOT VERY helpful to concrete.

I guess you didn't read the comparison of the recent century's rise of 6.7 inches vs the average century rise of 4.32 FEET from 21,000 to 11,000 BC. So, easy question: Which is more rapid and which is more recent. A cigar if you get the answer right:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bill14564 01-25-2023 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2179822)
I guess you didn't read the comparison of the recent century's rise of 6.7 inches vs the average century rise of 4.32 FEET from 21,000 to 11,000 BC. So, easy question: Which is more rapid and which is more recent. A cigar if you get the answer right:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Another question is are the numbers are correct?

21,000 to 3,000 will make a difference

The surface area of the ice to be melted makes a difference

6.7 should be closer to 8 or 9

4 inches in the last 30 years is much greater than 8 inches in the last century

The surface are of the oceans matter. The volume of water to raise the sea level 4 inches in the last 30 years would have raised them how much if the depth was 100 ft less?

sounding 01-25-2023 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179812)
I read about that concern about the world's sea level rising relatively RAPIDLY in recent years. We can just look to MIAMI where on high tide and certain lunar phases the base of Miami skyscrapers have seawater and also the nearby roads. And seawater is NOT VERY helpful to concrete.

Easy solutions. Remove the moon (to eliminate tides) and stop building were we know the oceans have been rising for the past 350 years -- and will continue to rise until Mother Nature says it's time for the next Ice Age. But don't worry, Obama has 2 sea-side mansions, who will no doubt prevent the seas form rising any further.

jimjamuser 01-25-2023 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2179822)
I guess you didn't read the comparison of the recent century's rise of 6.7 inches vs the average century rise of 4.32 FEET from 21,000 to 11,000 BC. So, easy question: Which is more rapid and which is more recent. A cigar if you get the answer right:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

The only time I have been interested in 11,000 BC was for 2 old movies about that time period. One had some foxy-loxie hot female movie star in it......It's only redeeming value.

jimjamuser 01-25-2023 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2179822)
I guess you didn't read the comparison of the recent century's rise of 6.7 inches vs the average century rise of 4.32 FEET from 21,000 to 11,000 BC. So, easy question: Which is more rapid and which is more recent. A cigar if you get the answer right:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

And smoking is bad for your health. ALL the good Doctors will tell you that.

jimjamuser 01-25-2023 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2179829)
Easy solutions. Remove the moon (to eliminate tides) and stop building were we know the oceans have been rising for the past 350 years -- and will continue to rise until Mother Nature says it's time for the next Ice Age. But don't worry, Obama has 2 sea-side mansions, who will no doubt prevent the seas form rising any further.

News flash......... I am in agreement with the CONCEPT that it is a terrible idea to build near an ocean coastline. In Oregon, they have a law against building within 1/2 mile of the ocean. I would go for 3 miles if I were in charge.

sounding 01-25-2023 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179892)
The only time I have been interested in 11,000 BC was for 2 old movies about that time period. One had some foxy-loxie hot female movie star in it......It's only redeeming value.

Unfortunately they don't teach climate change in schools anymore, because the data shows temperatures and CO2 levels were much higher in the past.

sounding 01-25-2023 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179894)
News flash......... I am in agreement with the CONCEPT that it is a terrible idea to build near an ocean coastline. In Oregon, they have a law against building within 1/2 mile of the ocean. I would go for 3 miles if I were in charge.

The key against hurricane flooding is to stay above 30 feet above sea level, because large Cat 5 storms can raise seas up to 30 feet. And even then, you need to account for high tides -- and of course slow sea level rise. Then when the next Ice Age starts, it will be a free-for-all to buy up new land as the seas go down 400 feet.

Byte1 01-26-2023 10:39 AM

So, once again how can man prevent volcanoes from erupting? Perhaps, human sacrifices? How did "man" cause Pompeii? Was it the lack of human sacrifices? How about the eruptions in Hawaii or the Philippines? I am not going to argue/debate the rising and lowering of the oceans, but I am interested in how anyone can be arrogant enough to think that mankind is instrumental in changing the climate. Was Earth meant to last forever? Is there any reason to care whether or not Earth is still here after the eventual extinction of man? If the oceans rise ten feet in our lifetime, would we really do anything other than move further in land? New Orleans has a lower elevation than the water bordering it. What do we do? We build walls and pump the water out of the city. Does that make sense when there is so much more land mass in the country? Is this how man fights climate change?
Climate change is a naturally recurring cycle and until someone can give me evidence that mankind has influenced the rotation of climate cycles, I will consider it arrogant to think that we can change it in any way. Maybe we can push our moon away from Earth and change the strength of tides?
Sorry, but I am not concerned with a few inches of coastline loss in my lifetime. Do I care about the future of mankind and the loss of land mass in our country? Nope, because I will be dust for a long time as will my children and grandchildren way before there is any threat to man's existence in this world. So, once you all figure out how to change the weather, please raise the temps in the mountains up North, because I miss the mountains but hate cold weather. A year round average of 75-85 degrees would suit me just fine. And stop planting so many flowering plants because pollen is much worse than carbon emissions on my breathing.

jimjamuser 01-26-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2180099)
So, once again how can man prevent volcanoes from erupting? Perhaps, human sacrifices? How did "man" cause Pompeii? Was it the lack of human sacrifices? How about the eruptions in Hawaii or the Philippines? I am not going to argue/debate the rising and lowering of the oceans, but I am interested in how anyone can be arrogant enough to think that mankind is instrumental in changing the climate. Was Earth meant to last forever? Is there any reason to care whether or not Earth is still here after the eventual extinction of man? If the oceans rise ten feet in our lifetime, would we really do anything other than move further in land? New Orleans has a lower elevation than the water bordering it. What do we do? We build walls and pump the water out of the city. Does that make sense when there is so much more land mass in the country? Is this how man fights climate change?
Climate change is a naturally recurring cycle and until someone can give me evidence that mankind has influenced the rotation of climate cycles, I will consider it arrogant to think that we can change it in any way. Maybe we can push our moon away from Earth and change the strength of tides?
Sorry, but I am not concerned with a few inches of coastline loss in my lifetime. Do I care about the future of mankind and the loss of land mass in our country? Nope, because I will be dust for a long time as will my children and grandchildren way before there is any threat to man's existence in this world. So, once you all figure out how to change the weather, please raise the temps in the mountains up North, because I miss the mountains but hate cold weather. A year round average of 75-85 degrees would suit me just fine. And stop planting so many flowering plants because pollen is much worse than carbon emissions on my breathing.

I have given EVIDENCE before but to NO avail. Some people will never change their minds despite what Scientific experts have to say because they have made up their minds. And they MUST feel somehow that they know more than Scientists that have gone to school on the subject at a graduate, masters, and Ph.D. level.
......But, here goes for the umpteenth time.....
......If you go to Google or Wikipedia and put in, "Surveys of Scientists' views on Climate Change". You can find that in 2016 there is a 97% consensus that humans are causing recent Global Warming.
.........In a 2021 study, the consensus was more than 99%.

I have done my part to improve general local understanding of this subject. It has become clear to me that many in TV Land do NOT believe in SCIENTISTS. And they are getting their understanding from some form of propagandistic mind-control that is rolling in from their TVs or very unusual media. I am REALLY saddened about the decrease in knowledge among my fellow TV Landers.......really saddened!

golfing eagles 01-26-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2180147)
I have given EVIDENCE before but to NO avail. Some people will never change their minds despite what Scientific experts have to say because they have made up their minds. and they MUST feel somehow that they know more than Scientists that have gone to school on the subject at a graduate, masters, and Ph.D. level.
......But, here goes for the umpteenth time.....
......If you go to Google or Wikipedia and put in, "Surveys of Scientists' views on Climate Change". You can find that in 2016 there is a 97% consensus that humans are causing recent Global Warming.
.........In a 2021 study, the consensus was more than 99%.

I have done my part to improve general local understanding of this subject. It has become clear to me that many in TV Land do NOT believe in SCIENTISTS. And they are getting their understanding from some form of propagandistic mind-control that is rolling in from their TVs or very unusual media. I am REALLY saddened about the decrease in knowledge among my fellow TV Landers.......really saddened!

And how many times have I made it clear that those scientists are bought and paid for by government grants, university tenure and journal publishers. And even that consensus is closer to 80%.

golfing eagles 01-26-2023 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2180099)
So, once again how can man prevent volcanoes from erupting? Perhaps, human sacrifices? How did "man" cause Pompeii? Was it the lack of human sacrifices? How about the eruptions in Hawaii or the Philippines? I am not going to argue/debate the rising and lowering of the oceans, but I am interested in how anyone can be arrogant enough to think that mankind is instrumental in changing the climate. Was Earth meant to last forever? Is there any reason to care whether or not Earth is still here after the eventual extinction of man? If the oceans rise ten feet in our lifetime, would we really do anything other than move further in land? New Orleans has a lower elevation than the water bordering it. What do we do? We build walls and pump the water out of the city. Does that make sense when there is so much more land mass in the country? Is this how man fights climate change?
Climate change is a naturally recurring cycle and until someone can give me evidence that mankind has influenced the rotation of climate cycles, I will consider it arrogant to think that we can change it in any way. Maybe we can push our moon away from Earth and change the strength of tides?
Sorry, but I am not concerned with a few inches of coastline loss in my lifetime. Do I care about the future of mankind and the loss of land mass in our country? Nope, because I will be dust for a long time as will my children and grandchildren way before there is any threat to man's existence in this world. So, once you all figure out how to change the weather, please raise the temps in the mountains up North, because I miss the mountains but hate cold weather. A year round average of 75-85 degrees would suit me just fine. And stop planting so many flowering plants because pollen is much worse than carbon emissions on my breathing.

Sorry, but human sacrifice won't work here. After all, we would have to sacrifice a virgin, and at least according to the author of "Leisureville", we a fresh out of those. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer 01-26-2023 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2180147)
I have given EVIDENCE before but to NO avail. Some people will never change their minds despite what Scientific experts have to say because they have made up their minds. And they MUST feel somehow that they know more than Scientists that have gone to school on the subject at a graduate, masters, and Ph.D. level.
......But, here goes for the umpteenth time.....
......If you go to Google or Wikipedia and put in, "Surveys of Scientists' views on Climate Change". You can find that in 2016 there is a 97% consensus that humans are causing recent Global Warming.
.........In a 2021 study, the consensus was more than 99%.

I have done my part to improve general local understanding of this subject. It has become clear to me that many in TV Land do NOT believe in SCIENTISTS. And they are getting their understanding from some form of propagandistic mind-control that is rolling in from their TVs or very unusual media. I am REALLY saddened about the decrease in knowledge among my fellow TV Landers.......really saddened!

And, for the umpteenth time, that 97% stat has been thoroughly debunked...

But keep bangin' that drum!

jimjamuser 01-26-2023 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2180200)
And, for the umpteenth time, that 97% stat has been thoroughly debunked...

But keep bangin' that drum!

Well, it is OVER 99% in the 2021 study to be more precise. And I am being told to believe a non-scientist over my lying eyes that see the same thing every time that I Google it. I guess Google and ALL the world's scientists have formed some sort of EVIL cabal to prevent the earth's inhabitants from learning the TRUTH......... that Global Warming does NOT exist and these dastardly lies can be corrected if we just listen to a few people at our local TV Land that know more than the combined wisdom of All the earth's scientists. Wow, how could I have ever DOUBTED YOU GUYS?
........AND SO THAT must ALSO mean that my local and state weather people must have been wrong when they said that the Gulf of Mexico water had been at a record high temperature this summer. WOW, they also must have been in on the disinformation campaign by the EVIL Cabal. And the country of Australia must be in on the lies, when they say that the coral on the great barrier reef are dying. What an enormous plot. And hurricane IAN did NOT CAUSE the most damage for a hurricane to the US, EVER. Wow, those lies just go on and on.
.......I am SO VERY glad that we have experts here in TVLand to help me understand all this confusion. And I bet that there really has NOT been an increase in CO2 in seawater in recent years.
........I am so relieved that I won't have to worry about Fl summer being too hot, I can save on A/C costs. And Fl or the US won't have ANY KILLER hurricanes this summer and autumn. Golly gee whiz, Batman, I am so relieved !!!!!

JMintzer 01-26-2023 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2180213)
Well, it is OVER 99% in the 2021 study to be more precise. And I am being told to believe a non-scientist over my lying eyes that see the same thing every time that I Google it. I guess Google and ALL the world's scientists have formed some sort of EVIL cabal to prevent the earth's inhabitants from learning the TRUTH......... that Global Warming does NOT exist and these dastardly lies can be corrected if we just listen to a few people at our local TV Land that know more than the combined wisdom of All the earth's scientists. Wow, how could I have ever DOUBTED YOU GUYS?
........AND SO THAT must ALSO mean that my local and state weather people must have been wrong when they said that the Gulf of Mexico water had been at a record high temperature this summer. WOW, they also must have been in on the disinformation campaign by the EVIL Cabal. And the country of Australia must be in on the lies, when they say that the coral on the great barrier reef are dying. What an enormous plot. And hurricane IAN did NOT CAUSE the most damage for a hurricane to the US, EVER. Wow, those lies just go on and on.
.......I am SO VERY glad that we have experts here in TVLand to help me understand all this confusion. And I bet that there really has NOT been an increase in CO2 in seawater in recent years.
........I am so relieved that I won't have to worry about Fl summer being too hot, I can save on A/C costs. And Fl or the US won't have ANY KILLER hurricanes this summer and autumn. Golly gee whiz, Batman, I am so relieved !!!!!

The 99% number is wrong, ass well.

What that number means is that 97% (or 99%) of the scientists REFERRED to papers claiming climate change, possible only in their footnotes. NOT that they agreed with the findings...

Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes "common knowledge" to the uneducated...

No, as to your feeble attempt to draw conclusions from my statement about the 97/99% number? It's what you do.

News readers read what is put in front of them. I can show you videos of multiple talking heads repeating the EXACT SAME WORDS in an incorrect talking point. It happens all the time... Unfortunately, the gullible fall for it...

fdpaq0580 01-26-2023 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2180213)
Well, it is OVER 99% in the 2021 study to be more precise. And I am being told to believe a non-scientist over my lying eyes that see the same thing every time that I Google it. I guess Google and ALL the world's scientists have formed some sort of EVIL cabal to prevent the earth's inhabitants from learning the TRUTH......... that Global Warming does NOT exist and these dastardly lies can be corrected if we just listen to a few people at our local TV Land that know more than the combined wisdom of All the earth's scientists. Wow, how could I have ever DOUBTED YOU GUYS?
........AND SO THAT must ALSO mean that my local and state weather people must have been wrong when they said that the Gulf of Mexico water had been at a record high temperature this summer. WOW, they also must have been in on the disinformation campaign by the EVIL Cabal. And the country of Australia must be in on the lies, when they say that the coral on the great barrier reef are dying. What an enormous plot. And hurricane IAN did NOT CAUSE the most damage for a hurricane to the US, EVER. Wow, those lies just go on and on.
.......I am SO VERY glad that we have experts here in TVLand to help me understand all this confusion. And I bet that there really has NOT been an increase in CO2 in seawater in recent years.
........I am so relieved that I won't have to worry about Fl summer being too hot, I can save on A/C costs. And Fl or the US won't have ANY KILLER hurricanes this summer and autumn. Golly gee whiz, Batman, I am so relieved !!!!!

(Psst. You are correct. The deniers are wrong. Their cult will find any obscure, misleading, or invented phony facts or use any convoluted false logic to avoid having to face and accept the truth. They can't handle the truth. Reality of the worlds health as a result of human overpopulation and habitat destruction should be of great concern to everyone. But the deniers won't break step with their dogma. They will stay the course and never, ever take an honest look at, or honestly evaluate anything that doesn't support the cult agenda. They will never run out of arguments because they can make it up as they go along.
Don't be down hearted. Don't dispare. There are more like you, who know and try to spread truth. Many,many more.
Just thought you should know.)

fdpaq0580 01-26-2023 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2180250)
ass well.

Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes "common knowledge" to the uneducated...

News readers read what is put in front of them. I can show you videos of multiple talking heads repeating the EXACT SAME WORDS in an incorrect talking point. It happens all the time... Unfortunately, the gullible fall for it...

OMG! My thoughts, exactly.

JMintzer 01-26-2023 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2180213)
Well, it is OVER 99% in the 2021 study to be more precise. And I am being told to believe a non-scientist over my lying eyes that see the same thing every time that I Google it. I guess Google and ALL the world's scientists have formed some sort of EVIL cabal to prevent the earth's inhabitants from learning the TRUTH......... that Global Warming does NOT exist and these dastardly lies can be corrected if we just listen to a few people at our local TV Land that know more than the combined wisdom of All the earth's scientists. Wow, how could I have ever DOUBTED YOU GUYS?
........AND SO THAT must ALSO mean that my local and state weather people must have been wrong when they said that the Gulf of Mexico water had been at a record high temperature this summer. WOW, they also must have been in on the disinformation campaign by the EVIL Cabal. And the country of Australia must be in on the lies, when they say that the coral on the great barrier reef are dying. What an enormous plot. And hurricane IAN did NOT CAUSE the most damage for a hurricane to the US, EVER. Wow, those lies just go on and on.
.......I am SO VERY glad that we have experts here in TVLand to help me understand all this confusion. And I bet that there really has NOT been an increase in CO2 in seawater in recent years.
........I am so relieved that I won't have to worry about Fl summer being too hot, I can save on A/C costs. And Fl or the US won't have ANY KILLER hurricanes this summer and autumn. Golly gee whiz, Batman, I am so relieved !!!!!

You keep talking about Ian, what about all the other "killer" hurricanes that never strike land? That's what happens to most of them... Did you know that there were 14 named storms last year? 8 of them were hurricanes.

How many of them struck land? You have no idea, but you keep beating the "Ian the KILLER Hurricane" drum...

Oh, and what's this? 2022's hurricane season was LOWER than expected?

But that's unpossible! Everyone knows hurricanes are getting more frequent. Ian proved that, right? WRONG...

2022 Atlantic hurricane season ends, breaking the six-year streak of above-normal seasons - WUFT News

And Australia's Barrier reef? It's actually GROWING...

They've just had the LARGEST amount of growth in the last 36 years...

Parts of Australia'''s Great Barrier Reef show highest coral cover in 36 years | Reuters

Yes, this past summer was hotter than normal. But the summer of 2021 was milder than normal... Go figure...

JMintzer 01-26-2023 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2180254)
OMG! My thoughts, exactly.

Then stop falling for it! :D

golfing eagles 01-27-2023 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2180213)
Well, it is OVER 99% in the 2021 study to be more precise. And I am being told to believe a non-scientist over my lying eyes that see the same thing every time that I Google it. I guess Google and ALL the world's scientists have formed some sort of EVIL cabal to prevent the earth's inhabitants from learning the TRUTH......... that Global Warming does NOT exist and these dastardly lies can be corrected if we just listen to a few people at our local TV Land that know more than the combined wisdom of All the earth's scientists. Wow, how could I have ever DOUBTED YOU GUYS?
........AND SO THAT must ALSO mean that my local and state weather people must have been wrong when they said that the Gulf of Mexico water had been at a record high temperature this summer. WOW, they also must have been in on the disinformation campaign by the EVIL Cabal. And the country of Australia must be in on the lies, when they say that the coral on the great barrier reef are dying. What an enormous plot. And hurricane IAN did NOT CAUSE the most damage for a hurricane to the US, EVER. Wow, those lies just go on and on.
.......I am SO VERY glad that we have experts here in TVLand to help me understand all this confusion. And I bet that there really has NOT been an increase in CO2 in seawater in recent years.
........I am so relieved that I won't have to worry about Fl summer being too hot, I can save on A/C costs. And Fl or the US won't have ANY KILLER hurricanes this summer and autumn. Golly gee whiz, Batman, I am so relieved !!!!!

One might consider removing the erroneous, insane and woke filters from their google search engine :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

nick demis 01-27-2023 09:07 AM

Check out talks by John Shewchuk if you want facts instead of bias politics.

Taltarzac725 01-27-2023 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nick demis (Post 2180350)
Check out talks by John Shewchuk if you want facts instead of bias politics.

https://mobile.twitter.com/_climatecraze

These do not look like facts. Just the opposite.

Taltarzac725 01-27-2023 09:45 AM

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

I would expect NASA wants to get the facts as they are sending people into the upper atmosphere.

Do scientists agree on climate change? – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

golfing eagles 01-27-2023 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2180367)
Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

I would expect NASA wants to get the facts as they are sending people into the upper atmosphere.

Do scientists agree on climate change? – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Of course, what NASA knows and what NASA tells us may be two vastly different things. Remember who funds NASA.

fdpaq0580 01-27-2023 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2180373)
Of course, what NASA knows and what NASA tells us may be two vastly different things. Remember who funds NASA.

Oh, oh! Don't shine the light on the conspiracy or our reptilian overlords may come abduct you. 😉


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