[rubicon]

The oft refrain seen in comments on TOTV is that" some people have to complain because they can never be happy." Yet that explanation seems absolute, inadequate,non- objective and unfair?

Perhaps the misinterpretation is not so much in what is said but how the poster expressed it?

Perhaps the comments by the sending poster hit a nerve with the receiving poster?

Civil discussion requires civility, calm cognitive thinking and objective responses.

Does the "I can't define pornography but I know it when I see it" rule apply?

Since TOTV is designed as a forum to offer opinion I am wondering how other posters define the difference between opinion and complaint?

Personal Best Regards:

[fred53]

An "opinion" is a persons view of something...be it positive(I think it's nice that people save themselves a seat in the square), negative(I think it's wrong and people who save seats in the square are turds) or neutral(I don't think it really matters if people save seats in the square).

A complaint is always negative, sometimes caused by personal feelings and rarely are they constructive when posted on-line.

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Perhaps the misinterpretation is not so much in what is said but how the poster expressed it?

That would be my view.

A complaint is a negative opinion from someone who is not happy with something, but that does not mean that the person is always negative or unhappy.

[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Perhaps the misinterpretation is not so much in what is said but how the poster expressed it?

Personal Best Regards:

I agree with this, I for one am not always good at expressing myself with the written word.

I add another as a twist on this: Perhaps the misinterpretation is not so much in what is said but how the reader interprets it?

Without body language, the same words can be taken in very different ways.

[graciegirl]

Some people don't care at all what others think.

Some people care a lot what others think.

Some people are BORN with more skill at communicating.

Some people are born with less skill at communicating and interpreting what others say. (slight touch of Autism)

Some people with kind hearts and good communication skills get annoyed at times.

Some people ALWAYS look for negative things and they find them.

Some people are taught to TRY to see the positive.

Some people have plenty of reasons to be negative but aren't and some people have plenty of reasons to be negative and ARE negative.

Sometimes people who are the most unlovable need our love most.

And sometimes they need a kick in the fanny.

You are welcome.

Good morning everyone. We live in The Villages.

[Wiotte]

Some people can see through the BS and frustrate trying to have others see what you see.


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[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

...Some people ALWAYS look for negative things and they find them...

Complaints and opinions, even when negative, can be perfectly valid. But these are the people that rarely lend anything constructive to a thread.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Some people don't care at all what others think.

Some people care a lot what others think.

Some people are BORN with more skill at communicating.

Some people are born with less skill at communicating and interpreting what others say. (slight touch of Autism)

Some people with kind hearts and good communication skills get annoyed at times.

Some people ALWAYS look for negative things and they find them.

Some people are taught to TRY to see the positive.

Some people have plenty of reasons to be negative but aren't and some people have plenty of reasons to be negative and ARE negative.

Sometimes people who are the most unlovable need our love most.

And sometimes they need a kick in the fanny.

You are welcome.

Good morning everyone. We live in The Villages.

Good Morning! I might add some like to "stir the pot" (especially in the political forum) by writing words that they don't even believe themselves. It's become difficult to have an intelligent and civil political discussion and I find myself just ignoring the forumn. On the other hand, TOTV is a wonderful site for opinion, legitimate complaints and information for residents of The Villages.

[BK001]

I differentiate the two as a complaint being an expression of dissatisfaction that something was not done right and needs to be corrected.

"The soup was not hot enough". (Implication that it was not heated properly.)

Whereas an opinion would be along the lines of "The soup would have been better had it been hotter. (Less an implication that something was wrong but rather one of opinion.)

[billethkid]

I do not agree that complaints are negative.....What if a complaint is about something that is wrong? Done wrong? Doing wrong? About something that is not correct? Unsafe? Etc........

No doubt many are...and like everything else that becomes public discourse, it is usually only the negatives that take up the most space and time in discussions.

[dewilson58]

[autumnspring]

Originally Posted by rubicon

The oft refrain seen in comments on TOTV is that" some people have to complain because they can never be happy." Yet that explanation seems absolute, inadequate,non- objective and unfair?

Perhaps the misinterpretation is not so much in what is said but how the poster expressed it?

Perhaps the comments by the sending poster hit a nerve with the receiving poster?

Civil discussion requires civility, calm cognitive thinking and objective responses.

Does the "I can't define pornography but I know it when I see it" rule apply?

Since TOTV is designed as a forum to offer opinion I am wondering how other posters define the difference between opinion and complaint?

Personal Best Regards:

First of all, this type of forum people, YOU, seem not to be aware that much of communication-facial expression etc is not there.

You and I have locked horns and yet whether you realize it or not that quote you have selected I can't define pornography but, know it when I see it. Is one I've posted previously on this site.

If, YOU read any of these threads, you will find that it is all OPINION people think differently.

A quote from Condi Rice-If, all your friends agree with you, you need some new friends.

There is that old allegory about the blind men and their description of an elephant. It is another interesting thought.

[Villager Joyce]

I feel most people are composing their answers before reading the post carefully. I was recently accused of bashing Munn's's because the brasher thought I was the OP. Still waiting for that,oops, My bad.

[Madelaine Amee]

This may be the right time to post a quote from Marcus Aurelius:

Everything we hear is an OPINION, not a FACT

and

Everything we SEE is a perspective, not the TRUTH.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

This may be the right time to post a quote from Marcus Aurelius:

Everything we hear is an OPINION, not a FACT

and

Everything we SEE is a perspective, not the TRUTH.

Sometimes