[EviesGP]

And there are many other examples of "Quarantine for thee, NOT for me!" NYC Mayor, Chicago Mayor, DC VIPs, etc. Fredo got caught, period! And, as far as the poll, many people are also under the impression that we can keep everything shut down, and they'll just sit and collect money from the govt. Ask them the same question(s), and state that the funds are ending? Which is what's going to happen. I'll bet you'll get a different response?!

[rrb48310]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

I say on June 1st open up the country and let the people practice everything we have been taught to be safe. If you want to stay home because of your age, health, etc that is very understandable. The people who want to go out and mingle at their own peril with all the rest then that is the path they have chosen.

Yes but, how about following the opening up guidelines set buy the guy at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. following numbers, safely and slowly with testing testing testing to find “hotspots” then track & isolate. POTUS needs to follow his own advice, not like someone said, “do as I say not as I do” (lead by example). He needs to condemn confederate flag waving gun toting protesters (that has NOTHING to do with what’s going on).

OPEN IT UP, but put the stars & bars and guns away for the KKK meetings.

I have a need for some Happy Hour

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

See Post #51

He traveled from his home to a lot 30 miles away, with his wife, another woman, and three kids. They didn't walk there. His wife's blog states he had a fever that day. So he blew off CDC quarantine rules in several ways. His wife and one of his kids have tested positive for covid 19.

This is trivial?

It's so obvious you only get news from outfits like CNN. For all you know, from their reporting, Chris Cuomo emerged from his heroic basement quarantine on live TV. There is a police report the biker filed after altercation with Chris. His wife's blog details his sickeness, fever, treatments etc. And the biker is a democrat who voted for Governor Cuomo. CDC quarantine guidelines are very clear for those who are infected.

I get my information from a plethora of sources, then put weight to them based on further research...and their overall objectivity.

Second to last on my list, is what basically amounts to 'State News' (last being the extreme fringes/conspiracy driven outlets)...like any dictatorship's (or wannabe dictators) try to establish.

The success in my professional life, was in a large part based on finding as many subordinates smarter than myself and then encouraging (and rewarding) them to make a case...that might be contrary to my initial viewpoint.

When responsible for hundreds of subordinates, the safety of customers and around $100M yearly of expense & capital budgets...facts/integrity/honesty/ethics mattered.

It also has never even occurred to me to demand absolute fealty, or to refuse (at every level) to ever admit making a mistake...or the chance of being seen as less than perfect.

That would take such a massive insecurity, that for me personally...is impossible to even fathom.

History is replete with examples of what happens when surrounding oneself with only "yes people" and then expending an enormous amount of effort trying to discredit those who actually are interested in/discover facts and the truth...that might be embarrassing or are contrary to the obedient, fanatical herd.

Just think of what could be accomplished, if even half of the effort now currently spent constantly trying to avoid personal responsibility and always looking to blame others...and put it towards solving the ever-increasing gaping maw between the have's and have nots.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

I get my information from a plethora of sources, then put weight to them based on further research...and their overall objectivity.

Second to last on my list, is what basically amounts to 'State News' (last being the extreme fringes/conspiracy driven outlets)...like any dictatorship's (or wannabe dictators) try to establish.

The success in my professional life, was in a large part based on finding as many subordinates smarter than myself and then encouraging (and rewarding) them to make a case...that might be contrary to my initial viewpoint.

When responsible for hundreds of subordinates, the safety of customers and around $100M yearly of expense & capital budgets...facts/integrity/honesty/ethics mattered.

It also has never even occurred to me to demand absolute fealty, or to refuse (at every level) to ever admit making a mistake...or the chance of being seen as less than perfect.

That would take such a massive insecurity, that for me personally...is impossible to even fathom.

History is replete with examples of what happens when surrounding oneself with only "yes people" and then expending an enormous amount of effort trying to discredit those who actually are interested in/discover facts and the truth...that might be embarrassing or are contrary to the obedient, fanatical herd.

Just think of what could be accomplished, if even half of the effort now currently spent constantly trying to avoid personal responsibility and always looking to blame others...and put it towards solving the ever-increasing gaping maw between the have's and have nots.

What's all that have to do with the fact that Chris Cuomo, on a day he still had symptoms, violated CDC guidelines by driving 30 miles with two women and three kids to visit a lot he owns?

As far as I know, CNN did not report this story, but they did stage Chris emerging from quarantine on live tv a few days later.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Originally Posted by EviesGP

as far as the poll, many people are also under the impression that we can keep everything shut down, and they'll just sit and collect money from the govt. Ask them the same question(s), and state that the funds are ending? Which is what's going to happen. I'll bet you'll get a different response?!

Thank you. I think this is key. Numbers in those "polls" may be inflated because some people want to stay home and collect unemployment that in some cases is more than they were earning on the job.

[ColdNoMore]

..."violated CDC guidelines"...

First of all, do you understand the definition of..."guidelines?"


Secondly, do you really even want to go there?


And lastly, my post was in response to the portion I highlighted/bolded....in your false assumption.


You're welcome.

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

What's all that have to do with the fact that Chris Cuomo, on a day he still had symptoms, violated CDC guidelines by driving 30 miles with two women and three kids to visit a lot he owns?

As far as I know, CNN did not report this story, but they did stage Chris emerging from quarantine on live tv a few days later.

That's why it's called fake news.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

First of all, do you understand the definition of..."guidelines?"


Secondly, do you really even want to go there?


And lastly, my post was in response to the portion I highlighted/bolded....in your false assumption.


You're welcome.

You are forgetting your earlier comments in this thread, in which you appeared to be unaware of the facts.

Exactly.

The whole purpose of being quarantined is to ensure...that you do not interact with others.

Staying in your own vehicle and not interacting with anyone else, completely fits with both the letter and the spirit...of quarantining

I recall that being in his own yard...not traveling in his automobile.

So Cuomo traveled in a car with his wife, another woman, and three kids while still running a fever, a trip which probably took an hour each way. The yard wasn't at his home, it was a lot where he has another house under construction. They definitely traveled in a car, and he definitely "interacted with others" and most certainly did not abide by "both the letter and spirit of quarantining"

Care to try again?

[Leadbone1]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

That is not correct. Valid polls show that 70% of the U.S. population are from somewhat concerned to very concerned about the health risk to opening business as usual. That is my opinion and I will link.


polls showing concern about reopening businesses - Bing

That’s a joke, polls are only another means of lying to the American public by the way they are structured. They are a complete joke and if you believe them that your problem.

[amexsbow]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

I recall that being in his own yard...not traveling in his automobile.

He traveled from his RESIDENCE to a lot he was building a new home. Perhaps you got your information from MSM which is often wrong.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by amexsbow

He traveled from his RESIDENCE to a lot he was building a new home. Perhaps you got your information from MSM which is often wrong.

Okidokie, I stand corrected.

Unlike others, like myself, who are adored and have gaggles of folks hanging on each word I say or write...at least I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong.

[sallybowron]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

Chris, in my opinion, is one of the few left-leaning independent thinkers in favor of reopening the country now*. Yesterday on his radio show he said this (paraphrasing).
*You're probably aware that feelings about reopening the country are, like most issues, going along party lines: In general, one side wants to wait longer to reopen, and the other side is ready to open now. *In general.*

""I'm not staying home for your grandmother. She can continue to stay home if she’s high risk, but the rest of us need to get on with our lives." It will not be very long life is she cannot get food, drink and banking. This seems very self-centered to me.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Originally Posted by sallybowron

""I'm not staying home for your grandmother. She can continue to stay home if she’s high risk, but the rest of us need to get on with our lives." It will not be very long life is she cannot get food, drink and banking. This seems very self-centered to me.

Grandma can do everything online. Or if she needs to venture out, the CDC guidelines that she follows should keep her safe. That's what they're for. And she can avoid people that are ignoring the guidelines.

I think the "self-centered" aspect is the other way around, in my opinion. As I said:

Me, I'm "high risk" myself because I'm over 60 and have a history of asthma. But I'm not so selfish as to demand the country stay at a standstill just to protect me. I can follow the guidelines and protect myself even with a reopened economy. And I can choose to continue to stay home with or without a reopened economy. The idea of wanting the world to stop just to protect me does not appeal to me in the least.

And worse case scenario, if I follow the guidelines and die from the slight chance of getting Covid-19 anyway, oh well, we all have to go sometime. My family and friends are going to have to get used to the idea of me not being around at some point anyway. At least my conscience will be clear that I didn't ask the world to stop for me and cause people to lose their jobs and businesses.

I take a risk getting behind the wheel of a car. I risk being hospitalized or dying by taking over the counter medications as directed. I'm willing to take a risk with this virus if it means getting our freedom back.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by sallybowron

""I'm not staying home for your grandmother. She can continue to stay home if she’s high risk, but the rest of us need to get on with our lives." It will not be very long life is she cannot get food, drink and banking. This seems very self-centered to me.

You weren’t staying at home for grandmother. You were staying at home for yourself. You (at whatever age) can die from this virus too.

That being said, we do need the economy to open, smartly with monitoring. We need our future way of life. Not to go back to what it was, backwards is not the direction we want to go. But forwards. I am excited to see how we’re going to do that, and how much better than before.

[72lions]

Originally Posted by Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com

Andrew Cuomo ordered to send Covid 19 patients to Nursing Homes instead of using the Hospital Ship that was docked and went without any patients, that caused massive infections which we now know were caused by his executive action. Of course any politician promises hope but deliver nothing, his brother Fredo (Chris) is only promoting opening since he got caught outside while the lockdown!!!!!!!

You do know the ship came to NYC to take non COVID-19 patients out of hospitals to free up COVID resources, right??