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Dr Winston O Boogie jr 10-07-2021 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sshepard03 (Post 2012219)
It is my understanding, from the CDC (albeit quietly published) that fully vaccinated people can get Covid and transmit Covid. This is contrary to what our Administration stated 2 months ago. If ANYONE says they 'know about Covid,' that is a lie. No one knows. Some say it's safe. They 'think' it's safe but they don't know it's safe. I want to see the 20 year study on > 1 million people to determine, i.e. long-term effects.
No one knows - we are all in the dark.

I can't imagine that anyone in any administration said something like that. It has been well known and well publicized for over a year that these types of vaccines do not prevent anyone from getting Covid-19. It was thought at one time that the vaccines could prevent those vaccinated from transmitting it but that was also contradicted and highly publicized many months ago.

What the vaccine does it ensure that the severity of the symptoms will be less in vaccinated people than in unvaccinated people.That has been pretty much common knowledge for a long time.

In fact it is possible to get the flu after being vaccinated with the annual influenza vaccine.

I had a very severe case of Covid-19. I was hospitalized for 12 days and still have minor symptoms over two months after the onset of the disease.
Every doctor that I've seen has told me that if I had not been fully vaccinated, I would not have survived.

My better half also got Covid-19 while I was in the hospital. She is also fully vaccinated and had a relatively mild case.

Whatever your symptoms are, they will be less severe if you are vaccinated. I don't recall at any time anyone stating that these vaccines would prevent a person from contracting the virus.

What so many people fail to understand is that this is a very unique virus. It is different than any other virus that we've ever seen. There has been and will continue to be a huge learning curve. I've asked my doctors many questions and they have answered many of them. But in some cases, I've been told that "honestly, we just don't know". That is why we hear information one day and it changes a week or a month later. Testing shows one thing and later a different testing shows different results.

The medical community is giving us the best information that they have at the time. That is always subject to change.

Three hundred years ago bleeding and leeches were universally accepted treatments for many conditions. Does anyone question that the sincerity of those doctors?

What I can't seem to find and answer to and haven't had the opportunity to ask a doctor is, is the amount of antibodies related to the severity of the symptoms? In other words, do I have more antibodies than a person that has a mild case?

I've tried googling and every response seems to be a long scientific paper where I have to look up every other word and do not understand even after that.

Has anyone heard anything about that?

Byte1 10-07-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2014208)
My brother-in-law just got out of rehab yesterday, he has been hospitalized since late January with Covid most of the time in intensive care with Covid , he was a very healthy man who would have loved to get vaccinated if he had had the chance , I choose to follow the mainstream large group of scientists and got my shots in late January and now I’ve had booster with no side effects at 82 please get your shots

82% vaccinated in The Villages. And a bunch of folks that survived the virus that are just as protected now as the vaccinated.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-07-2021 10:01 AM

Whatever you say is true , I’m sure you have all the facts that’s why I read your posts hmmm

jimjamuser 10-07-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2013898)
As long as you get your racket "restrung" on a regular basis:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But , as you know, and I can think of 4 or 5 posters off the top of my head, there are those that will argue "they do their own research and make up their own minds" These are the people that will be sitting at their PC googling "cat 5 hurricane" or "nuclear detonation radius" while all their neighbors have evacuated on the advice of the "experts":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yes, I agree! And I have my very own personal, very small, and inexpensive portable stringer. So, I can put the best string in my racket (even natural gut which has problems with the humidity and quick rainstorms of Florida). And I can string it to MY very own preference for string tension and use special dampening materials on each string, which takes care and time (4 hours) to finish a racket. I only string for myself.

jimjamuser 10-07-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2013970)
Why not? I hear their vaccination rates are 98%! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

True that! Now you are talking and getting WITH the program. Keep up the good work and always remember to give dogs de-worming pills regularly and watch out for heartworms in Florida. put sandwich bags around each paw when they are walked because the ground is where the worm eggs are. (just kidding about the sandwich bags, maybe make a tough cloth barrier with velcro quick closures or invent something better). And avoid horse worming ivermectin for dogs and other ones that you love!

jimjamuser 10-07-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2014266)
I can't imagine that anyone in any administration said something like that. It has been well known and well publicized for over a year that these types of vaccines do not prevent anyone from getting Covid-19. It was thought at one time that the vaccines could prevent those vaccinated from transmitting it but that was also contradicted and highly publicized many months ago.

What the vaccine does it ensure that the severity of the symptoms will be less in vaccinated people than in unvaccinated people.That has been pretty much common knowledge for a long time.

In fact it is possible to get the flu after being vaccinated with the annual influenza vaccine.

I had a very severe case of Covid-19. I was hospitalized for 12 days and still have minor symptoms over two months after the onset of the disease.
Every doctor that I've seen has told me that if I had not been fully vaccinated, I would not have survived.

My better half also got Covid-19 while I was in the hospital. She is also fully vaccinated and had a relatively mild case.

Whatever your symptoms are, they will be less severe if you are vaccinated. I don't recall at any time anyone stating that these vaccines would prevent a person from contracting the virus.

What so many people fail to understand is that this is a very unique virus. It is different than any other virus that we've ever seen. There has been and will continue to be a huge learning curve. I've asked my doctors many questions and they have answered many of them. But in some cases, I've been told that "honestly, we just don't know". That is why we hear information one day and it changes a week or a month later. Testing shows one thing and later a different testing shows different results.

The medical community is giving us the best information that they have at the time. That is always subject to change.

Three hundred years ago bleeding and leeches were universally accepted treatments for many conditions. Does anyone question that the sincerity of those doctors?

What I can't seem to find and answer to and haven't had the opportunity to ask a doctor is, is the amount of antibodies related to the severity of the symptoms? In other words, do I have more antibodies than a person that has a mild case?

I've tried googling and every response seems to be a long scientific paper where I have to look up every other word and do not understand even after that.

Has anyone heard anything about that?

You can be tested for antibodies, but it is expensive in the US. I heard that Germany does give those tests regularly and relied on them as much as a vaccine. Whoever gives them around here should know the answers to those questions. i am glad that you got out of the hospital.

jimjamuser 10-07-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2014292)
82% vaccinated in The Villages. And a bunch of folks that survived the virus that are just as protected now as the vaccinated.

Some of those that survive lose their immunity in as short of a time as 2 months. IMO the medical experts do NOT know why it lasts longer for some people, maybe genetics??????

Swoop 10-07-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2014330)
Some of those that survive lose their immunity in as short of a time as 2 months. IMO the medical experts do NOT know why it lasts longer for some people, maybe genetics??????

Per the National Institutes of Health: “The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.”

NoMoSno 10-07-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2014329)
You can be tested for antibodies, but it is expensive in the US. I heard that Germany does give those tests regularly and relied on them as much as a vaccine. Whoever gives them around here should know the answers to those questions. i am glad that you got out of the hospital.

Why do you think it's expensive in the US?
You can get tested at Quest for $69.
The test is FREE if you give blood through One Blood.

JMintzer 10-07-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2014321)
True that! Now you are talking and getting WITH the program. Keep up the good work and always remember to give dogs de-worming pills regularly and watch out for heartworms in Florida. put sandwich bags around each paw when they are walked because the ground is where the worm eggs are. (just kidding about the sandwich bags, maybe make a tough cloth barrier with velcro quick closures or invent something better). And avoid horse worming ivermectin for dogs and other ones that you love!

Except it's a lie...

And I'm sure you're aware that the inventor of Invermectin won the Nobel Prize for his developement of that medication FOR HUMANS, there it is still used today...

But please, keep spreading your misinformation...

JMintzer 10-07-2021 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2014330)
Some of those that survive lose their immunity in as short of a time as 2 months. IMO the medical experts do NOT know why it lasts longer for some people, maybe genetics??????

More misinformation...

coffeebean 10-07-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2012783)
Please post that 1,000 times for the _________(fill in the blank) who think it is better to get the disease.

There is recent data that says Covid survivors have damage to their hearts a year after having Covid. That includes people who had minimal symptoms and were not hospitalized at the time of their infection.

There are several news stories about this. I won't bother to post links because I'm tired of being told my sources are not reliable. I do not buy into those conspiracy theory sites or conspiracy theory "experts" so make your own conclusions to the findings.

coffeebean 10-07-2021 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 2012790)
Can you tell me some of his false claims?

I cannot as I have not read any of his claims and am not interested to read them. His reputation precedes him. Nope, not interested in what he has to say. I'll stick with the CDC and our government for information.

Byte1 10-07-2021 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2014444)
There is recent data that says Covid survivors have damage to their hearts a year after having Covid. That includes people who had minimal symptoms and were not hospitalized at the time of their infection.

There are several news stories about this. I won't bother to post links because I'm tired of being told my sources are not reliable. I do not buy into those conspiracy theory sites or conspiracy theory "experts" so make your own conclusions to the findings.

Other illnesses have had long term or even permanent effects. Thanks for the fear mongering.

"The flu isn’t just a health risk for the seven days or so that you’re physically sick with the virus—it can also have some lasting effects that could affect your health for weeks, months, or even permanently. Here are some of the ways the flu can be a risk factor for health issues, even after you’re feeling better.

A number of studies have linked influenza to an increased risk of heart attack and stroke, and scientists have theorized that the inflammatory response triggered by the flu can fuel the development of atherosclerosis, a contributor to heart and artery disease. "

MDLNB 10-08-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2014444)
There is recent data that says Covid survivors have damage to their hearts a year after having Covid. That includes people who had minimal symptoms and were not hospitalized at the time of their infection.

There are several news stories about this. I won't bother to post links because I'm tired of being told my sources are not reliable. I do not buy into those conspiracy theory sites or conspiracy theory "experts" so make your own conclusions to the findings.


So, you are suggesting that 44 million covid survivors probably have damaged hearts? Interesting. Guess the donor list will get pretty full pretty soon.

golfing eagles 10-08-2021 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2014712)
So, you are suggesting that 44 million covid survivors probably have damaged hearts? Interesting. Guess the donor list will get pretty full pretty soon.

I very much doubt that the person who posted that was suggesting 44 million covid survivors will have chronic "heart disease". And there is no way anyone with 2 functioning neurons would interpret her comment in that fashion. But.....if only 1% had long term cardiac impairment, that's still 440,000 people.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-08-2021 09:51 AM

The 2015 Nobel prize was awarded
 
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2014385)
Except it's a lie...

And I'm sure you're aware that the inventor of Invermectin won the Nobel Prize for his developement of that medication FOR HUMANS, there it is still used today...

But please, keep spreading your misinformation...

to those scientists for there work on ivermectin to be used against parasitic infections only not for Covid

biker1 10-08-2021 10:01 AM

The last time I gave blood via One Blood, they weren't doing the Antibody tests anymore (or they were doing the test but not sending out the result).

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 2014350)
Why do you think it's expensive in the US?
You can get tested at Quest for $69.
The test is FREE if you give blood through One Blood.


JMintzer 10-08-2021 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2014738)
I very much doubt that the person who posted that was suggesting 44 million covid survivors will have chronic "heart disease". And there is no way anyone with 2 functioning neurons would interpret her comment in that fashion. But.....if only 1% had long term cardiac impairment, that's still 440,000 people.

Well, Mr Bean didn't claim "some", nor did he say "1%", so the response is apropos to his claim...

JMintzer 10-08-2021 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2014756)
to those scientists for there work on ivermectin to be used against parasitic infections only

And, once again, medicines are quite often used "off label" for things they were not originally designed for...

For example: "Anakinra (Kineret®) and canakinumab (Ilaris®) are being used by some rheumatologists as an “off label” treatment for severe gout attacks"...

golfing eagles 10-08-2021 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2014766)
Well, Mr Bean didn't claim "some", nor did he say "1%", so the response is apropos to his claim...

Well, you and I both know, and I'm pretty sure MRS. Bean knows as well, that "side effects" are not something that affects 100% of those that take a medication, usually less than 1-2 %, unless the "side effect" is somatic, such as headache or fatigue, in which case it generally runs about 15%, which is the same rate as the placebo arm of the studies.

MDLNB 10-08-2021 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2014756)
to those scientists for there work on ivermectin to be used against parasitic infections only not for Covid


Sulfur was once used in the creation of black powder and then someone started using it as an antibiotic.

What was the point again?

MDLNB 10-08-2021 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2014738)
I very much doubt that the person who posted that was suggesting 44 million covid survivors will have chronic "heart disease". And there is no way anyone with 2 functioning neurons would interpret her comment in that fashion. But.....if only 1% had long term cardiac impairment, that's still 440,000 people.


Didn't he/she say: "There is recent data that says Covid survivors have damage to their hearts a year after having Covid. That includes people who had minimal symptoms and were not hospitalized at the time of their infection."

I didn't see anywhere that it was stated that SOME or a FEW or there were incidents of, etc.

I am not an expert or a professional with intimate information on the subject, but I have a few "functioning neurons" enough to read. Maybe I should have read it as a scare tactic?

golfing eagles 10-08-2021 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2014786)
Didn't he/she say: "There is recent data that says Covid survivors have damage to their hearts a year after having Covid. That includes people who had minimal symptoms and were not hospitalized at the time of their infection."

I didn't see anywhere that it was stated that SOME or a FEW or there were incidents of, etc.

I am not an expert or a professional with intimate information on the subject, but I have a few "functioning neurons" enough to read. Maybe I should have read it as a scare tactic?

You really have to be joking, right?

If I were to state that COVID survivors get into an auto accident 5 years after recovery, would one take that to mean every single one of 44 million survivors were going to be in a crash??? When my son was a teenager, he tried playing that same semantic game with me. It didn't work for him then, it doesn't work now. At least he grew up.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-08-2021 10:37 AM

That is true but many of the anti vaccine use
 
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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2014778)
Sulfur was once used in the creation of black powder and then someone started using it as an antibiotic.

What was the point again?

the Nobel prize winners of this use and it’s not true you can google many articles and statements from quack doctors or health gurus telling people that that’s what it was for and people will take all kinds of dangerous cures for Covid but won’t take a shot mind boggling

golfing eagles 10-08-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2014778)
Sulfur was once used in the creation of black powder and then someone started using it as an antibiotic.

What was the point again?

Typical amateur/non-professional mistake----

Big difference between the element SULPHUR used in gunpowder among other things, and SULFA antibiotics. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

But just for a short teaching moment, from the NIH-------

"Researchers have finally found out how sulfa drugs—the first class of antibiotics ever discovered—work at the molecular level. The finding offers insights into designing more robust antibiotic therapies.

Sulfa antibiotics were first used in the 1930s, and they revolutionized medicine. After a few years, bacteria started to develop resistance to the drugs, and eventually penicillin replaced them as a first-line treatment. While antibiotic resistance remains a problem for this class of antibiotics, sulfa drugs are still commonly used to treat a variety of bacterial infections.

Sulfa drugs work by binding and inhibiting a specific enzyme called dihydropteroate synthase (DHPS). This enzyme is critical for the synthesis of folate, an essential nutrient. Mammals get folate from their diet, but bacteria must synthesize this vitamin. Folate synthesis requires a chemical reaction between 2 molecules, DHPP and PABA, that is catalyzed by DHPS.

Bacteria resistant to sulfa drugs often have mutations in the DHPS enzyme. These mutations occur on 2 floppy loops that sit near the enzyme's active site. Previous research had described most of the structure of DHPS, but the structure of the floppy, highly conserved loops remained elusive. Moreover, researchers didn't know how the chemical reaction occurs between DHPP and PABA."

MDLNB 10-08-2021 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2014820)
Typical amateur/non-professional mistake----

Big difference between the element SULPHUR used in gunpowder among other things, and SULFA antibiotics. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

But just for a short teaching moment, from the NIH-------

"Researchers have finally found out how sulfa drugs—the first class of antibiotics ever discovered—work at the molecular level. The finding offers insights into designing more robust antibiotic therapies.

Sulfa antibiotics were first used in the 1930s, and they revolutionized medicine. After a few years, bacteria started to develop resistance to the drugs, and eventually penicillin replaced them as a first-line treatment. While antibiotic resistance remains a problem for this class of antibiotics, sulfa drugs are still commonly used to treat a variety of bacterial infections.

Sulfa drugs work by binding and inhibiting a specific enzyme called dihydropteroate synthase (DHPS). This enzyme is critical for the synthesis of folate, an essential nutrient. Mammals get folate from their diet, but bacteria must synthesize this vitamin. Folate synthesis requires a chemical reaction between 2 molecules, DHPP and PABA, that is catalyzed by DHPS.

Bacteria resistant to sulfa drugs often have mutations in the DHPS enzyme. These mutations occur on 2 floppy loops that sit near the enzyme's active site. Previous research had described most of the structure of DHPS, but the structure of the floppy, highly conserved loops remained elusive. Moreover, researchers didn't know how the chemical reaction occurs between DHPP and PABA."


Apparently, you missed the point. But, thanks for the lesson anyway. I just read the cliff notes, but I have decided not to make black powder or use it for an antibiotic...........:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

MDLNB 10-08-2021 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2014790)
You really have to be joking, right?

If I were to state that COVID survivors get into an auto accident 5 years after recovery, would one take that to mean every single one of 44 million survivors were going to be in a crash??? When my son was a teenager, he tried playing that same semantic game with me. It didn't work for him then, it doesn't work now. At least he grew up.


I don't know your son, and I am relieved to know that he grew up.:coolsmiley:
You seem to be acquainted with stipulating "semantics" on many topics so I presumed that my use was permitted. Now that I know better, I will bow to those that are All Knowing. :bigbow:

Have a great day
I still consider the statement as "scare tactics" since there was no limiting terms used such as "some, instances, percentage, etc."

Byte1 10-08-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2014820)
Typical amateur/non-professional mistake----

Big difference between the element SULPHUR used in gunpowder among other things, and SULFA antibiotics. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

But just for a short teaching moment, from the NIH-------

"Researchers have finally found out how sulfa drugs—the first class of antibiotics ever discovered—work at the molecular level. The finding offers insights into designing more robust antibiotic therapies.

Sulfa antibiotics were first used in the 1930s, and they revolutionized medicine. After a few years, bacteria started to develop resistance to the drugs, and eventually penicillin replaced them as a first-line treatment. While antibiotic resistance remains a problem for this class of antibiotics, sulfa drugs are still commonly used to treat a variety of bacterial infections.

Sulfa drugs work by binding and inhibiting a specific enzyme called dihydropteroate synthase (DHPS). This enzyme is critical for the synthesis of folate, an essential nutrient. Mammals get folate from their diet, but bacteria must synthesize this vitamin. Folate synthesis requires a chemical reaction between 2 molecules, DHPP and PABA, that is catalyzed by DHPS.

Bacteria resistant to sulfa drugs often have mutations in the DHPS enzyme. These mutations occur on 2 floppy loops that sit near the enzyme's active site. Previous research had described most of the structure of DHPS, but the structure of the floppy, highly conserved loops remained elusive. Moreover, researchers didn't know how the chemical reaction occurs between DHPP and PABA."

I'm not an expert or a medical professional such as you, but I think that sulfur is or has been used for dermatological purposes and does work as sort of an antibiotic, if I am not mistaken. I was "told" that folks that are allergic to sulfa drugs are probably not allergic to sulfur. But, I think we have strayed off the subject..

golfing eagles 10-08-2021 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2014879)
Apparently, you missed the point. But, thanks for the lesson anyway. I just read the cliff notes, but I have decided not to make black powder or use it for an antibiotic...........:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

but are you going to inject bleach or lysol??????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 10-08-2021 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2014882)
I don't know your son, and I am relieved to know that he grew up.:coolsmiley:
You seem to be acquainted with stipulating "semantics" on many topics so I presumed that my use was permitted. Now that I know better, I will bow to those that are All Knowing. :bigbow:

Have a great day
I still consider the statement as "scare tactics" since there was no limiting terms used such as "some, instances, percentage, etc."

As a knight of the round table, I was honor bound by the code of chivalry to defend her:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

coffeebean 10-08-2021 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2014451)
Other illnesses have had long term or even permanent effects. Thanks for the fear mongering.

"The flu isn’t just a health risk for the seven days or so that you’re physically sick with the virus—it can also have some lasting effects that could affect your health for weeks, months, or even permanently. Here are some of the ways the flu can be a risk factor for health issues, even after you’re feeling better.

A number of studies have linked influenza to an increased risk of heart attack and stroke, and scientists have theorized that the inflammatory response triggered by the flu can fuel the development of atherosclerosis, a contributor to heart and artery disease. "

Why does information regarding the damaging effects of Covid become "fear mongering"? The information is there to inform, not to cause fear. Why is it being informed is referred to as "fear mongering". I just do not understand that mantra and I'm truly tired of hearing it. I've heard it so much, I have become numb to the silly term, "fear mongering".

coffeebean 10-08-2021 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2014712)
So, you are suggesting that 44 million covid survivors probably have damaged hearts? Interesting. Guess the donor list will get pretty full pretty soon.

Sorry if my comments were not clear but I did not mean to imply that every single person who has had Covid would suffer heart damage. That just does not seem feasible, actually. Wouldn't that have been major headlines by now?

coffeebean 10-08-2021 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2014766)
Well, Mr Bean didn't claim "some", nor did he say "1%", so the response is apropos to his claim...

Who is "Mr. Bean"?

coffeebean 10-08-2021 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2014790)
You really have to be joking, right?

If I were to state that COVID survivors get into an auto accident 5 years after recovery, would one take that to mean every single one of 44 million survivors were going to be in a crash??? When my son was a teenager, he tried playing that same semantic game with me. It didn't work for him then, it doesn't work now. At least he grew up.

GE......you are my hero. Thank you.

coffeebean 10-08-2021 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2014882)
I don't know your son, and I am relieved to know that he grew up.:coolsmiley:
You seem to be acquainted with stipulating "semantics" on many topics so I presumed that my use was permitted. Now that I know better, I will bow to those that are All Knowing. :bigbow:

Have a great day
I still consider the statement as "scare tactics" since there was no limiting terms used such as "some, instances, percentage, etc."

Mrs. Bean here. I did not get into specifics as I just reiterated a headline I read. I did invite anyone who was interested to do the research and find articles on the subject. It was quite interesting to find that heart damage shows up a year later in Covid survivors; I never said all Covid survivors. I left it up to anyone interested in the findings to read about it themselves.

coffeebean 10-08-2021 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2014960)
As a knight of the round table, I was honor bound by the code of chivalry to defend her:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I'm happy to say it again........GE, you are my hero!

kkingston57 10-09-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 2012146)
Well you came to the right site for information/misinformation.

Agree 100%

Byte1 10-09-2021 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2015010)
Why does information regarding the damaging effects of Covid become "fear mongering"? The information is there to inform, not to cause fear. Why is it being informed is referred to as "fear mongering". I just do not understand that mantra and I'm truly tired of hearing it. I've heard it so much, I have become numb to the silly term, "fear mongering".

Then I guess if someone was to put this article on here, and say that folks should not wear a mask because of.....................

Is a Mask That Covers the Mouth and Nose Free from Undesirable Side Effects in Everyday Use and Free of Potential Hazards?

JMintzer 10-09-2021 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2014773)
Well, you and I both know, and I'm pretty sure MRS. Bean knows as well, that "side effects" are not something that affects 100% of those that take a medication, usually less than 1-2 %, unless the "side effect" is somatic, such as headache or fatigue, in which case it generally runs about 15%, which is the same rate as the placebo arm of the studies.

How dare you resume their gender! :icon_wink:


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