[CoachKandSportsguy]

WARNING:

Video of credit card skimming devices being installed at walmart while checking out and the cashier didn't notice.

Credit card skimmers found at Walmart checkout lines in Northeast

they just don't stop trying

[retiredguy123]

Apparently, using "tap-to-pay" where available, avoids the skimming problem.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Apparently, using "tap-to-pay" where available, avoids the skimming problem.

I never thought about that, but that's cool!
Also using the credit feature and not the debit feature helps that part. .

I never use the debit feature unless at the home bank or desperate. .
and these days seldom use cash so I am helping that credit card usage statistic which shows more and more credit card usage over cash

[JGibson]

Walmart Pay in which you scan a QR code is the most protective.

Even the tap to pay can be skimmed.

Apple Pay is also safe because it doesn't generate your card number but Walmart doesn't accept Apple Pay which goes to show you how powerful Walmart is.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by JGibson

Walmart Pay in which you scan a QR code is the most protective.

Even the tap to pay can be skimmed.

Apple Pay is also safe because it doesn't generate your card number but Walmart doesn't accept Apple Pay which goes to show you how powerful Walmart is.

How can tap-to-pay be skimmed? As I understand it, the process doesn't transmit your credit card number.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

How can tap-to-pay be skimmed? As I understand it, the process doesn't transmit your credit card number.

In addition, the information that does get sent is encrypted with one-time key. A skimmer would not be able to use the recorded information to make a purchase and would not be able to decrypt the information to see if the card number is in there.

I would be very interested in anything that says tap-to-pay can be skimmed. Google hasn't found anything for me yet.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Apparently, using "tap-to-pay" where available, avoids the skimming problem.

Yes it does avoid that problem. But unsurprisingly, many retail places around here still don't have that option. I prefer to use google pay when I'm paying by credit card, and even -that- isn't available everywhere here yet.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

What i don't understand, not something I am going to research, is how they are going to get their swiped information back? as the device will be removed fairly quickly and not returned, unless there is inside collusion. .

Any one know who has been a criminal?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

What i don't understand, not something I am going to research, is how they are going to get their swiped information back? as the device will be removed fairly quickly and not returned, unless there is inside collusion. .

Any one know who has been a criminal?

Other articles have mentioned downloading via bluetooth. All they would need to do is come into the store and they should be close enough to connect.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Other articles have mentioned downloading via bluetooth. All they would need to do is come into the store and they should be close enough to connect.

That's what i figured, but didn't type it. That would make the device easier to find, as you just need a Bluetooth signal strength meter to scan/sweep the store. . . and since they have the creeps on video, they should be able to find the particular skimmer fairly quickly. .

Its a full time employment job for electronic security. .

[dtennent]

Interesting that this was posted here since it happened in the Walmart near where we are right now. I went back to double check our credit card but no problem so far. Do skimmers work when the chip is inserted into the machine?

[mikeycereal]

Obviously Walmart employees need to be more vigil. Only one person at a time to do the transactions. 3 people all around there to skim, what the heck. Yeah I know they're just Walmart employees but still...

I'm tapping out.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by dtennent

Interesting that this was posted here since it happened in the Walmart near where we are right now. I went back to double check our credit card but no problem so far. Do skimmers work when the chip is inserted into the machine?

It depends.

The chip itself is safe. However, to use the chip you need to insert the card into the device. It is *possible* that a skimmer could read the swipe portion of the card while the legitimate device is using the chip. I haven't heard of this happening but I would be surprised if no one had tried it yet.

[lindaelane]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Other articles have mentioned downloading via bluetooth. All they would need to do is come into the store and they should be close enough to connect.

Bluetooth takes time to connect. Have an RFID wallet. Have your card out for 10 seconds or so while you tap to pay. Bluetooth just is never that fast as far as I know.

Soon, I think we will all pay with phones. My phone is on a phone lanyard, which can be ordered very cheap online. I wear it either over or under my shirt depending on the situation. Never lost.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by lindaelane

Bluetooth takes time to connect. Have an RFID wallet. Have your card out for 10 seconds or so while you tap to pay. Bluetooth just is never that fast as far as I know.

Soon, I think we will all pay with phones. My phone is on a phone lanyard, which can be ordered very cheap online. I wear it either over or under my shirt depending on the situation. Never lost.

The question was about downloading the stolen information from the skimming device, not from your card. Your card cannot be read by a bluetooth device.